I found myself the other day wanting to see a local and somewhat regular provider. I decided against it because she only offers cbj with fs. The last few bbbj's that I have recieved have been so good, that I just don't think that I will ever return to a provider that does not offer them. When I first started in the hobby, I didn't care. At the time, I just thought that all were covered. I had a few bbbj's, that were good, but it still didn't matter. I uess something in me clicked, I don't know why, that says I only want bbbj's. I can only think of one provider that offers cbj's that I would see again. Her eye contact is incredible.
  The question is......How many here also refuse to see certain provider due to the fact that they don't offer a bbbj???? TER had a survey on this a little while ago. A vast majority preferred the bbbj. I don't want to know what you prefer, just if you only see providers that offer a bbbj. Just curious.

I won't see a provider if they do a cbj.  The part that really makes my head spin about this is that the same providers who insist on cbj, will allow unlimited DATY without the use of a dental dam, which is much riskier than them doing a bbbj.

I understand that each of us makes our own choices as to safety and risk in each of our encounters, so ymmv.

I may not be as concerned about this as some, but I don't think I'd refuse outright to see a provider that only provided cbj.  In my fantasies (which is what we're all talking about here), the entire experience is what matters rather than one particular act in the show.  Still, I have to agree that bbbj is the more gratifying way to receive.  

Just my $0.02.
BKMan

check my reviews sweetie!! you may like them

I will love to finally meet you in person!!!

kisses and licks

Unfortunately, I'm somewhat limited to incall appointments, which makes it tough.  If the rare opportunity for outcall for me comes up, I'll make sure to see if you're available.

Thanks!
BKMan

After all we are the customers. It is always difficult to state over a telephone line (you don't know who is listening) or never put the message in an email (you don’t know where it will end up).  I know that the providers have a repertoire, with a general comfortable routine, and we must give them credit for all that experience that they have.  But, why can’t an FS provider say: well you got my body for a period of time - what do you want?

I remember visiting a house in Nevada, whereas the first thing you were presented with was a menu. Interesting concept.

Perhaps we need a better definition of FS and what it includes or excludes?

Is this why it is hard to settle on a regular provider? Because it is difficult to precisely discuss what more or less you really want?  The client keeps on searching even though sometimes he is very close to a solution.

Please tell me you are kidding. I would never expect a provider here in California to give e a menu or let me know what is offered. That is why we have TER. If a provider was to ever blatantly ever start telling her clients what to expect, she could, and probably would be busted faster that rabbits reproduce.
  I am guessing that you are a little new at the hobby. In time you will be able to tell the rip-off's from the honest providers. If you are not new, then I apologize. I just want you to understand that a provider can be busted for simply implying sex in exchange for money. I hope this helps.

You didn't mention if you visited a legal house in Nevada or one that is not.  Remember, where prostitution is legal in Nevada, there is no issue about discussing what is on the "menu" before seeing a provider.  Outside of those few selected counties in NV, discussing specific sex acts for money is asking for trouble from LE.

Simply put, a provider who puts a menu out of what she does and does not provide, similar to what the Nevada brothels do, will get her targeted for sure.

Additionally, last I was at a Nevada brothel, the prices on the menu were simply outrageous.  Sure, guys will talk about bargaining with the provider after seeing the menu, but not everyone likes to do that.

Finally, I can't speak for anyone else, but it really isn't that difficult to settle on a regular provider.  I have a few that I would term my "regular" providers, but in this hobby, variety is part of the excitement, so we wind up having to go through research and actually scheduling appointments to find additional regulars.  

Just my $0.02 worth.
BKMan

As indicated in the above responses, both clients and providers should not discuss menus where such activities are prohibited by law.

In some of the legal threads, I have seen instances of providers being charged with solicitation, even when they said no to a proposition by undercover LE. The "logic" of the charge is that, even though the provider said no to one act, it didn't mean she was saying no to others. No response by the provider was also taken to be agreement to the act. Actually, I hope that I misunderstood the thread, as this sort of 1984-speak would make even George Orwell turn over in his grave.

And if LE is really engaging in such practices, their talents are wasted. They should just be lashing out with sticks at any women not wearing burkas.

I was just hoping that someone would have a solution.
I am not necessarily new to TER but still learning.

By the way, it was a legal house in NV. I did not buy from the menu. But it seem fun when presented.  Just like a restaurant.  I followed the advice, ignore the menu and the line, sit at the bar and they shall come to you.

-- Modified on 11/15/2002 12:23:25 PM

Gumby007,
See Sedona, 11/14/02

Warmest,
Sedona

The LEAST risky sexual act (as far as HIV transmission is concerned) is DATY!!  (especially girl on girl)  Ask Any Health Care Professional!!  However...You MUST wait at least an hour after brushing your teeth or flossing. (especially if your gums tend to bleed!)  You also musn't have any cold sores / canker sores of any kind.  

ONEBUSYEXEC:  **I don't know where you are getting your info from...But It's Dangerously Wrong!!**  

For those of you out there who do allow BBBJ to be performed on yourselves...You should think about the Math involved here...
If She will do this for YOU..Chances are...She'll do it for most gents.  This, of course,  increases the chances for possible HIV exposure EXPONENTIALLY!!

Many people are unaware that HIV is present in Pre-Cum.  So even if you don't swallow...You are still at risk Ladies!!  IMHO...Swallowing is like playing Russian Roulette!!  

An option for those who Absolutely Must have some direct oral/genital contact:  Why not just lick, kiss, or suck his shaft & balls only??  This is Much safer for both parties involved. (provided that he hasn't anything goin' on down there, nor she have any cuts, etc. in her mouth /on her lips)

I Really hope that this info is posted by "The Powers that Be" at TER!  I know that some of mine haven't been in the past.  And I understand why that happened.  So...If it needs to be revised slightly due to some of the terminology...So Be It! It's just that because...The risk of Not posting it...

Let's just say that I'd Hate to think of how many more nice people out there will continue (unknowingly) with such risky behavior...That's All!  I'd just like to think that I was able to somehow help in preventing the spread of this deadly disease.

Sincerely~ Lara

ps) I've included a link to a site that has an Amazing amount of info on every STD out there. You know...I've written all this because I honestly believe that education is the key to stopping the spread of HIV/AIDS..So PLEASE...Check it out!

ReATY

I get most of my information from the Center for Disease Control.

My point is that I find it absurd that a woman will allow DATY without a dental dam for protection and not perform a bbbj. What is dangerous is the notion that allowing one activity while not the other is "safe". Both have risks for HIV transmission, neither are free from the risks of HIV transmission.

And I have thought about the fact that a woman who will allow me to DATY is likely to have allowed a lot of others to do the same, which exponentiates my exposure with that woman, especially one who might be very popular and have a wide array of "consumers" so to speak.  While I see a relatively small handful of "providers".  I'll have to revisit my statistics book...

Education is the key to the spread of any disease.  Unequivalent evaluation and application of that information is equally dangerous.