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Interesting Survey
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I find the current survey interesting. A large percentage (41% today) make over $100K annually. That group makes up a small percentage of the population of the US. Following this thinking, the people on this board are among the more affluent people in this country... LOL Why would such affluent people be interested in such trivial topics? Why would they care whether someone was a "Dance and Dasher"? Why are there so many post on the subject of the cost of the hobby? If I had that kind of income, I would be out partying instead of sitting here posting this.

I have a sneaking suspicion that some may not have voted truthfully. I think some have "wishful thinking". I was really surprised that my group was as small than the norm. Perhaps the survey should be redone. Let's say:

A) $0 to $99,000

B) $100,000 to $499.000

C) $500,000 to $999,000

D) $1,000,000 and up

I am sure the results would be simiiar. #D would wind up being the majority.

Devil Dog19083 reads

Naother perspective is that this is a self-selecting mechanism in that those that really can enjoy this hobby more often than not have the discretionary income to do so, regularly.

Having spoken to providers about thier clientel I hear that many guys are rather comfortable, financially speaking. So it was no surprise that the results were skewed to the high end. I agree, though, to a finer point that the scale was not very representative. Mybe they could redo it with a little higher end on it.

In any survey, there is a margin of error that is assumed, given that a blind survey typically results in a predictable degree of self reporting biases (meaning wishful thinking).

My only concnern is that if we reprot a higher income level, would that encourage the providors to increase their rates?

Hmmm... Maybe we should lie the other way? :^)

D'Dog

Interesting perspective on how much money this is and the people that make over 100k!  I assure you, it really isn't all that much money.  I know, I know, it seems like a lot when you are only bring 20-30k but those with annual income around 100k also have commensurate liabilities.  I would venture that these people are your biggest "penny pinchers"!  But people that make seven figures or more STILL watch their spending closely.  $400 is still $400 to them and they do not consider it pocket change.  

Interesting data to look at might be "where" the higher income levels spend their cash on this sport.  I would expect that they tend to go more for the higher priced providers but perhaps not!

PK9210822929 reads

It's not just the money.....it takes alot of time to set up a meeting.....getting time away from the old lady...just to end up wasting it on a rip off.....plus we all work hard for our money and even high income earners feel bad when they throw away hundreds on some of these losers we encounter...

2sense16866 reads

There's an old rule of thumb that if someone has twice as much money as you, then you think that person is wealthy. I know this works for me, but I wonder if it works for Bill Gates.

The other rule of thumb (this one from the Stanley book, "The Millionare Next Door") is that just having a high income doesn't mean you're wealthy. The idea that all lawyers, doctors, stockbrockers etc. are rich just because they have a high salary didn't pan out. The tendency in the U.S. is to spend almost every dollar you make, and this is especially so if you live in toney areas like La Jolla, Del Mar, drive fancy sports cars, etc. My guess is that the typical hobbyist with a high salary has to watch his pennies as carefully as us poor folks.

Why are rich people so price-conscious? Because that's how they got rich! Read "The Millionaire Next Door" for some clear indicators that the typically wealthy are not typical spenders.

Furthermore, maybe the survey is a skewed represetation of TER membeship. For example, maybe the discussion boards are where all the poor people on TER go. The rich guys log in, vote once on their income, then hit the search page, efficiently find a hot provider for a great deal, and don't ever waste time (time is, after all, money) on such trivialities as talk talk talk. Us poor guys, on the other hand, blather on and on and then at the end of the night lose $400 that we didn't have to spend, on a dance-n-dash girl we really ought not to have called, who isn't positively reviewed here. Maybe.

TheDirector22232 reads

Don't forget the survey includes inputs from "providers" too.  Do you know how easy it is to make over 100K cash/year for a provider?

Souper20840 reads

Where do I find this survey?

I think a survey like this can lead people to the wrong conclusions.  You're thinking that someone who falls into the $100K+ category is wealthy.  The person who answers that they make $100K annually might very well be the only bread winner for the family.  Still sounds like a lot, and in most areas of the country it absolutely is.  But a total household income of 100K in San Diego, with a few kids, a spouse, a couple of car payments (I'm talking Chevy, not Mercedes here), a mortgage, etc. etc., leaves you with very little disposable income.

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