Well I've never been that fortunate. I believe I treat providers with respect, am clean, and generous. But the provider/hobbyist barrier has always remained. I also think that one person that I had seen quite a lot started to take advantage of me as time went on. She would tell me our appointment was 2 hours but after an hour tell me someone else was coming. Usually I had already left my envelope and felt bad asking for some cash back. Once she even had me drive her to the bank and then she only spent about 30 minutes with me before she told me I had to leave. She did this to me two times. Finally, I got the hint and quite seeing her. She's actually one of the most popular providers who visits San Diego.
Much has been written so tell me if I'm way off base but I think providers want regular, clean, steady customers that treat them with respect, kindness and generosity. Younger providers don't appreciate this as much as older more experienced ones. Also if you click, become a regular and conduct yourself as described above it has been my experience that the menu limits are lifted!
Any thoughts?
This has been the experience with my ATF of five years- there is no menu, and by mutual agreement have at times dispensed with the donation as well.
Well I've never been that fortunate. I believe I treat providers with respect, am clean, and generous. But the provider/hobbyist barrier has always remained. I also think that one person that I had seen quite a lot started to take advantage of me as time went on. She would tell me our appointment was 2 hours but after an hour tell me someone else was coming. Usually I had already left my envelope and felt bad asking for some cash back. Once she even had me drive her to the bank and then she only spent about 30 minutes with me before she told me I had to leave. She did this to me two times. Finally, I got the hint and quite seeing her. She's actually one of the most popular providers who visits San Diego.
That sux bro, I bet your ass still hurts from that experience.
Providers are like all people. I believe that thye all would like regular, clean, steady customers, but they all don't reciprocate in the same way. I have also been seeing my ATF regularly for some time, and have experienced what you are experiencing. But I have also had the experience of slowly being taken advantage of by another girl a few years ago. Some people are generous and thoughtful, others are selfish, greedy, and can be thoughtless. Luckily I am currently seeing a very sweet, thoughtful, and generous girl and it couldn't be better, and it seems the feeling is mutual. I don't know about younger or older providers, I think it just has to do with their personality and the way they approach life.
I've been seeing San Diego providers since 1984, and just last week retired. With some ladies I've had what "I perceived" was a deep, caring relationships; with others, it was always no money, no play - no matter how long we saw each other. Gentlemen, treat these ladies well, but don't ever begin to think they are emotionally involed with you as a person. Those who last for more than a flash are seasoned professionals who have trained themselves to become great actors, seeming to be caring and tender, but in 99% of the cases, the show stops when the ticket expires.
OK, thought I would pipe in on this one. It is an issue we all deal with at some point. The original question referred to certain menu limits being lifted. Certainly I have become close to some clients, 2 of them dating off of the clock. Of course once trust is established and one can relax other things can happen. I did find that when I dated prior clients for our own social needs things did get complicated. Although I developed huge affection, I still had my own personal goals. One of my friends kept trying to clinch a deal by offering to pay for the things I was striving for. Always trying to rescue me. I did not need rescueing. It was very frustrating. Both of them kept requesting more and more time which was biting into my work and therefore goals. And it was clear that they were becoming personally upset by my work, which ultimately forced me to stop seeing them. Each of these relationships occurred seperately, but the same process seemed to happen. The ticket stopped but not because of the contribution from them, but because it was slowing down my work, and I did not want to drag out someone else's feelings on something that I had no intentions of changing until I did the things I need to do for me. I could have dropped my plans, moved in with either of them, been treated very nicely and joined his world, but then when it ended a few years down the line, then what? Resentment towards that person? Personal regrets for not finishing what I started for me? Just doesn't pan out in the end. Strong independant women have the same stresses, expectations from family and needs towards future as any of the gentlemen. I prefer to come to the table with something to place on it when I decide to do that. Back to the first question, yes, I have friends who I have seen repeatedly who I trust and we share alot more together than what happens with a one hour drive by! And I LIKE it! ![]()
Being taken advantage of has happened to me. Both in terms of time, services and money. Like all relationships communicate your displeasure. Things don't improve then move on. As far as becoming attached, I understand it's a business, her business but she is still a person no different than me, just trying to make a living.
I have many friends in this category.
Jenni is in a class of her own!
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