San Diego

Re:Concerning LE
Burt2010 9 Reviews 3786 reads
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Yes, LE is a problem in San Diego.  IMHO a bigger problem than in most cities.  That is why I only hobby in San Diego with providers I know--or get a green light from and known and very trusted source.  It is also why I started hobbying in Tijuana--with very pleasant results.

Ok..I just gotta ask, because the San Diego Discussion Board really has me spooked.  I am an outta towner ..long time member of TER who travels a little and has posted numerous reviews through the years.  Always lurk on the discussion boards and study the review section of any city prior to visiting.  Since I will be in San Diego soon I have been real interested in the uhh..cultural scene of the region.  I do not think I have ever seen a board where there is so much warnings..accusations and suspicion toward providers and members as to being LE. I am just curious..does LE in the San Diego area actually monitor the Boards?? Do they  create web ads and set up sting operations to nab hobbyiest?  I have heard of this happening in some areas..but only through an incall sting..do they really send a female officer to someones hotel room and with no witnesses and arrest a potential client for solicitation?  Are there contributors to TER...individuals with frequent post and reviews who are really LE? Who do you trust?

I also visit SD occasionally and have been on TER for a few years, monitoring boards and reviews for the cities I travel to. Does the info on this board make me paranoid about LE? You bet it does! I believe the LE scene in SD is so intense, when I go there I keep going... to TJ where the fun is without hassle, without the need for screening, much less expensive and virtually no threat of LE intrusion into private matters between consenting adults. Having mostly lurked this board for a few years, I believe San Diegans concerned with safety see only ladies with established reputations and numerous reviews. Risk takers beware in SD.

Dana Scully3808 reads

Are you kidding me?  LE monitors the boards in EVERY city, not just SD.

You can be safe...just do your homework on who you want to see.

De Niro2326 reads

I have never seen a discussion board full of so many LE warnings like San Diego.  Got me spooked to even go there.  There are 3 providers Im dying to see there, but Im afraid to even go now.

Should not hamper you let me know which "3" you are thinking about.  Just gotta do homework
PM me..Maybe I can fill you in

Dana Scully2880 reads

Like I said...you CAN be safe if you do your homework.  There are plenty of SAFE ladies, especially the well-reviewed ladies on TER.  It is just that there are plenty that aren't...so be careful when looking at ones that aren't well reviewed or are just on ads.  

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If you know who you're looking for and they already have a proven record, you have little to worry about. Just be prepared to make the lady as comfortably about you as she needs to be (within reason). If you're not sure about her, don't see her or contact some of those who've reviewed her and ask.You may or may not get any cooperation. Bottom line, trust only yourself and never go out on a limb and see someone you're unsure of. Err on the side of safety, trust your instincts and think with your big head. San Diego isn't that bad, but what do I know?

And for those who are too paranoid to go for it while in San Diego, just remember, the border is only 20 minutes away, and is just as much, if not more, fun.    And no LE!!!!

YES to all your questions!
But some more than others, to be fair!

HOMEWORK.  DDo it and you'll pass the class!

Man of Mystery2197 reads

What happens when you show up?   What are the usual legal penalties?

Yes, LE is a problem in San Diego.  IMHO a bigger problem than in most cities.  That is why I only hobby in San Diego with providers I know--or get a green light from and known and very trusted source.  It is also why I started hobbying in Tijuana--with very pleasant results.

all of the discussion board posts regarding LE and bacon and donuts and tortillas with holes in them and you'll be doing a good job protecting yourself.

One thing, I don't know that I've ever seen a "trap" or "sting" provider post on the board or have VIP access to it.

The other thing, is that besides ALPHONSE, miss JenniSD, who is very up front about her situation when she got stung (she wore a bee suit to a party we had after and has talke about it on the national boards and here as well)  Anyway, she fought all the way, as well as getting her charge dismissed and would rather eat her arm than turn evidence to help herself.

That's a Lady you can trust.

(Not that she's got time to be helping out everyone that doesn't want to do homework, but in a pinch, she's your go to girl.  Hell, just go to her!)

xoxo
Elise

Op Amp2290 reads

JenniSD will give you good advice if you get busted.  She PM'd me an attorney reference that I will use if I ever get stung.  I feel a little more confident hobbying because I know there are people here at TER like Jenni that I can turn to when the going gets rough.

First of all, I want to say that I am not interested in getting our local Vice really pissed off at me.  I don't care what the charge is, if someone gets in trouble, the need for a good attorney is paramount.  Regardless of the situation or charge.  

I am not a Law Enforcement hater.  Quite the contrary.  I respect those who daily have to scrap with assholes who would do people harm.  I do not envy their position at all.  I know there are many who put themselves in harm's way to protect the masses.  It would be a pretty sorry place without those guys if they weren't here doing that for us.  If someone tries to hurt me, or anyone else around me, they will be the first I call.  That being said, I do think it is wrong to humiliate a hard working person who pays big on their taxes and contributes to our society because they want and NEED some sexual comfort, release and yes, FREEDOM.  

It is very sad to know that a young man more than halfway through his twenties, who has never been kissed, and has been rejected over and over by his female peers because he does not possess the physical attributes that Hollywood has defined, can be set up and humiliated publicly.  He can also loose his career for which he has worked very hard.  More young men have found their confidence over hundreds of years through a professional, than most would ever imagine or the masses would admit.  Or the man who has been disabled and needs the comfort and vision of a naked woman.  Or the guy who is healthy, single, hard working and prefers not to seduce a lady he can pick up only to reject her the next day, so he goes to a professional because he has not found his true mate.  Isn't this more honest and compassionate?  There is also, the more mature accomplished guy who again doesn't fit the Hollywood mold, but is smart, sexy, well versed, but still does not have the gift of gab for the damn stereotypical women who shun the spectacle wearing hot guys.  These are only a few of the scenarios that go on.  As for the married gents who for what ever reason seek the company of someone they do not have to be responsible for.  The only conflict I hold there are for the ones who are so irresponsible, they may be depleting the college funding of their children, or leaning on the security of their SO.  I know this happens, but I cannot help it.  And you can pretty much bet, that the typical hobbyist would BALK at his wife's decision to get her satisfaction elsewhere if she were stressed and frustrated because he doesn't try to be creative with her anymore.  At the same time, the gambler who depletes his family’s security , has a safe place to do that and it is his business if he does, so in a casino setting.  It is so wrong to trash people and their families with public lynchings over this silly issue.  

However, and I have said this before, people can speculate, complain, moan and groan all they want.  This is a law the people have in place.  Most of those who would complain in this forum, would never tell their friends what they did last night.  Or that they love to see professional women.  Until people quit being ashamed and tell the truth about this issue in a public way, this issue will remain.  I don't lie about what I do because I am not ashamed.  I tell people what I do when they ask.  I have never been treated badly for it.  On the contrary, I have been met with curiosity and opinions that would surprise most!  The fear is in YOU, more than what LE can drum up here.  Those guys probably laugh and get shits and giggles all day long off of this board.  I know I do sometimes.  It is just another community and lifestyle for some.  

I have been to a few swinger parties, which I have found to be much more unsafe and lacking in regards to respecting the need for protection from STD's.  I am sure when someone is having an affair it is rare, that they use protection, or get tested prior to going bare back with their lover in order to protect the SO. I believe even the streewalkers use more protection than the average affair or swingers who think they know each other.  Many would argue that this is a public health issue.  If so, why shouldn't affairs be held accountable in the same way?  Or swinging?  Doesn't matter really.  If we were to change this scene, we would all have to be honest, just like the gays have done wouldn't we?  

Parts of the third paragraph read me like a book.  Thanks for understanding.

keg19691345 reads

This is probably one of the most thoughtful posts I've ever read on this or any board. I agree, I'm in that third paragraph as well. Thanks for being so understanding, Jenni.

Plea for Reason2140 reads

...but a girl with intelligence, street smarts, common sense and a compassionate heart. Jenni, that straight talking, no nonsense style of yours is just so you.

Virtually everything you presented here is so well said but I would like to excerpt 2 comments in particular from your post:

"Or the guy who is healthy, single, hard working and prefers not to seduce a lady he can pick up only to reject her the next day, so he goes to a professional because he has not found his true mate. Isn't this more honest and compassionate?"

and:

"There is also, the more mature accomplished guy who again doesn't fit the Hollywood mold, but is smart, well versed, but still does not have the gift of gab for the damn stereotypical women who shun the spectacle wearing hot guys.

I actually had to edit out sexy in the second. Perhaps smart is a bit of a stretch in my case also. I just find your intuitive sense of what should be a given, simply inspiring. If there were more women like you in this world it would be a much better place.

I liked your comments about law enforcement too because the vast majority of those guys who actually put their lives on the line to protect us are certainly to be respected and appreciated. I've had a rare occassion in my life when a police officer has been there to get me out of a jam. That is not forgotten by me.

Some of the vice nonsense is another matter.


Jenni, you may have already figured me out.

If not, try this:  If I would just not talk so much I could get through a complete meal. lol. Perhaps then I wouldn't be so skinny. Actually I'm far more quiet and reserved than you might imagine. :) I could play the wallflower (well flower is not the best metaphor for a guy)in any social setting with uncanny skill as if it were my natural calling.

Thank you for your patience girl, and the times that you got tough.




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Op Amp2671 reads

“However, and I have said this before, people can speculate, complain, moan and groan all they want.  This is a law the people have in place.”

How do we go about changing this law?  Has anyone attempted to change it before?  Is there a petition we can sign to place an initiative on the ballot?  Should we write to our councilman or congressman?

There is the possibility I can lose my job if I get too much media exposure in support of Providers.  I’m sure there are others that share this concern.  I suspect that there are a large number of supporters who must remain anonymous to preserve their marriages.  Is there any way to effect change without revealing identities?

“Until people quit being ashamed and tell the truth about this issue in a public way, this issue will remain.”

Has anyone attempted to organize a parade or event in San Diego in support of our cause?  Undoubtedly, the media presence would scare the majority of supporters away.

It is the nature of this community to operate in the shadows.  Until we have organized public protest things won’t change.  A brave leader must emerge from the shadows willing to devote time and energy to fight the establishment.  I hope I am around to see that happen in San Diego.

I want things to change, but I feel powerless to make anything happen.  Sorry Jenni.

Very VERY true.  This "hobby" is, and will continue to be, an underground arena.  The few folks who are willing to go public in their support of the biz come off as being from the radical fringe (anyone remember "Ragsdale" running for state office?).

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