the first provider I ever saw, she was very kind, explained things to me, quite talented and very attractive. She showed me things that I never had experienced. Certainly showed this newbie a new world. Never wrote a review, what could I have said that wasn't already said. From my memory I'd rate her a 8/8.
Seems to be a string of (bogus) bad reviews these days...Jenni..now Cinder.
What's goin' on? These ladies, or for certain anyway, Cinder, know they haven't even seen the reviewer! So why do people write these bad reviews and hurt peoples' feelings?
Cinder is a LOVELY lady and doesn't deserve this mean-spirited review. Anybody who's ever seen Cinder knows that yes, she is a 'mature' lady but by no means is she old, or shouldn't be in the business, and she DEFINITELY is not heavy! A size 4-6 is teeny!
I hope you will chime in and cheer up Cinder whose really been hurt by this person.
Love ya, girl!
-- Modified on 6/29/2004 8:57:40 PM
A provider in Atlanta I know very well had two of these in the past month, as well as a provider in Phoenix who had one and a provider in Seattle who had one. Fake reviews are bad enough of a surprise to a provider, but a fake negative review? Shit like this almost makes poppychulo look good. 
-- Modified on 6/29/2004 2:12:13 PM
the first provider I ever saw, she was very kind, explained things to me, quite talented and very attractive. She showed me things that I never had experienced. Certainly showed this newbie a new world. Never wrote a review, what could I have said that wasn't already said. From my memory I'd rate her a 8/8.
then the guys a creep and Cinder should let staff know and have it pulled.
I've only seen Cinder once and that was with Candra. To tell you the truth IMHO Cinder outperformed and looked better than Candra on that particular day and thats saying something.
IF he did see her(and I'm not saying he did) I think its the type of review that most would 'throw out' the appearance rating as just not his type. His performance rating was right in line, just didn't like what he thought were old pics, probably expected someone younger.
Cinder,its easy to say don't let it bother you, but don't let it bother you. The cream rises to the top.
Best birthday I ever had. LOve
And she has not changed those photos from that time at least 7 years ago. I would estimate that her photos are 12-15 years old.
The performance score of an 8 was legitimate, and so was the appearance score, if he expected a lady who looked ANYTHING like the photos that Cinder has on that site.
The fact is, that was an honest review. Not kind, not charitable, but totally honest.
-- Modified on 6/30/2004 3:19:13 PM
that Cinder didn't even see the guy, so how can that be an honest review?
how can Cinder be sure she's never seen him? you mean to tell me she knows the TER handles of all the guys she's seen that month?
besides how else would he know her photos were so outdated?
-- Modified on 6/30/2004 2:57:45 PM
I take Sedona at her word, and she knows Cinder well enough that if she believes it, I believe it. However, I will leave it to them to defend further.
Actually, I agree w/ overclocked. How would she know? Do we really have to analyze every single bad review. Go with the averages - Cinder must have about 20 pages of reveiws so I doubt this one is going to effect her overall score.
ways in which she knows, which I won't mention here. Nobody's business.
'Member the guy who posted about Terra's (?) review and that the review mentioned stairs, and all the guys chimed in that, yeah, she doesn't have stairs?
OK, we know when we say we know.
The review is bogus - he wanted free days. Ok, you want free days, at least post a review that's nice if you're gonna make up stuff.
I certainly try to maintain my anonymity from the provider about any reviews I give that are less than stellar, and I would assume that most reviewers do the same. I expect that certain irrelevant details, like the time of the meeting, or the location, might be altered to protect the confidentiality of the reviewer. Maybe he saw her 3 months ago, and is only getting around to reviewing her now.
The standard 1st order denial is "I never saw the guy". But, in fact, unless you never saw ANY guy, you don't know that you never saw THAT guy who wrote the reviews, because the handles are not the names of the client.
Lots of reviewers change certain details, like the date/time and location of the service, in order to preserve their anonymity.
That still does not invalidate the substance of the review.
I have only been in doubt twice and that was before the journal. I don't see enough people to get confused about this.
-- Modified on 7/9/2004 4:02:58 AM
Old photos are false and misleading advertising. Given the absence of other routes of consumer advocacy in this hobby, provider who lie via old pictures should be reveled in this forum. To bad for an older provider who lacks the courage to advertise honestly. I remember how disappointed I was by being misled by the pictures of Ms. European Delight before she updated her site. I was none to happy. Now she uses pictures that are recent but hide her age. Unfortunately I can not review her as I will not return to her after she mislead me the first time. If you are older and use out dated pictures then expect to read that in a review
however, the pix that Cinder has on her site don't really show much to begin with (face is blurred), so these pictures don't look (to me anyway) any different than she does. I can see your point if the pictures don't look the same, but to me they still 'work'. I can understand that if someone has viewed her site over a period of time and wished she had new pictures up for the sake of variety, etc. but there really has been no need.
However, not a bad idea to refresh things a little just for the sake of an update if anything.
Whether or not that review was false in some of it's details, it VERY much matched the review that I WOULD have given her for my visit many years ago.
She is a very nice lady, and her performance is excellent. But I never went back because her photos very significantly misrepresent her appearance and physical attractiveness, at least to me, and that is an important aspect of what I look for in a paid session. That is NOT fiction, that is fact.
Unless Cinder looks much younger and fitter than she did when I saw her many years ago, her photos misrepresent her. If she would like to avoid this, I suggest that she use some photos that have been taken within the past decade.
Sedona, I am sorry, but I need to call Bullshit on this one. Cinder's photos are very old. And she doesn't look like she did when THOSE photos were taken. It's that simple.
-- Modified on 7/1/2004 3:44:51 PM
And I cannot argue with anything else in your post as that is how you feel.
I didn't know her two years ago, so I cannot say whether she's changed or not.
And as I said, that photo was obviously out of date even at that time.
I'm not trying to drag this out, but to me the face in the pic is so blurred that her age is hard to tell. Her body, however, looks slender, toned and fit.
If this is not her body type now, she definitely needs new pics for an honest representation so there are no surprises at the door.
In addition to gravity having taken it's toll, and her not appearing anywhere near as well toned as the photo, the bottom half of her face, which is not blurred out, is nowhere near as youthful in appearance as the photo would imply.
Frankly, I am uncomfortable being the mean guy here, but the fact is, this reviewer has been getting a raw deal by the "SD board review police". Whether or not he saw her at the time and place in question, he HAS CERTAINLY seen her at some point. His review is WAY TOO ACCURATE for him to have NEVER seen her. He did not trash her performance, he gave her a good score there. And his objections to the reality vs. the photos is exactly the same objection that I had at the time I saw her. If one is expecting a youthful looking lady with a perky body, and this is important to the client, then the client will be disappointed, as I was, many years ago.
Make no mistake, Cinder is a very friendly lady who gives excellent service. But she doesn't look like her photos, because they were taken a long time ago. That's just reality.
I don't want anyone to be disappointed when they see me after they open their door.
Don't generalize. It's just silly.
Elise
And I don't know how to use photoshop, so I don't know how more updated those could be.
Another Elise hater hiding behind a rock.
Kiss my lily white LARGE butt. IT's in the picture.
Elise
I've visited your fair city, but have never met Cinder. I read the 5/7 review, and it doesn't seem mean spirited at all. I didn't think it was a negative review. On the other hand ...
If it was about me (he was clearly older and heavier than his pics ...) that wouldn't feel real comfortable. But to get the full experience, I'd have to have someone had me $300 in exchange for having sex with them. I'm game.