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Re: OK, my turn..........
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I thought it would be interesting to just sit back and watch this thread for awhile.  I appreciate and needed some support regarding this past review.  I felt terrible that night.  Not when I arrived, but by the time I left I sure did.  I feel this guy should have just told me I was not what he expected and ask me to leave vs. working me like he did and then trashing me. I have had one other occasion where a guy told me I was not what he expected and handed me the envelope and politely said he declined.  Now that is a champion of a gentleman.  I have also chosen to leave when I realized within minutes we were going to have a terrible time, without asking for show-up fee.   His viewpoint is no doubt entirely valid to him, but hopefully he will read this and learn.  I think it is very wrong for him to go forth as he did, and then order me out as if I had done something really wrong to him.  I could not help but notice his lack of response, after quite a bit of effort.  I have had other times where a guy for whatever reason could not rise to the occasion.  This happens once in awhile.  However when that has happened, I have had the gent say that he was tired, or that some medication has some sort of effect or what ever and then a massage, or just lying together and talking and being kind to each other.  I have never been attacked for it before like what occurred here.  I did ask him for guidance, and was told I was doing "fine".  I finally gave up when it was obvious I was beating a dead horse so to speak.  I then got myself a glass of water (which was never offered), and I did ask him if he was tired, had taken some medication or had had some drinks.  He then got very angry and belligerent.  And told me to leave, and I had to demand some compensation for my time.  It was just a real drag.  We all have our bad days, and IMHO he was having a bad day.  I am sure we have all had the experience of meeting someone in all sorts of random situations and for some reason was completely repelled by that person immediately, no matter what.  For no real reason.  That just happens.  This guy should have acted appropriately at that moment, and as far as I am concerned violated me first, by going forward, second by treating me as though I was some sort of criminal rip-off, third by cheating me on my time, and lastly for writing in such of a mean way.  

For him to make me seem like a dumb ghetto bitch that was out to get him was ludicrous.  He wants to snivel about smoke smell; well my profile reads that I smoke.  Yep, one of my vices.  I try very hard to make sure I don't have that residue on me when I meet someone, and my reviews will reflect that with the exception of one or two, and then again, I say read the profiles.  If I go overtime which occasionally I do, for instance had a 3 hour date the other night and going into the 4th hour with this very fun party animal if I choose to stay longer, and they want me to and I am not asking for additional compensation I will do that with or without permission.  Or if someone tells me to relax and do that, I will.  Otherwise I do not.  People who are that sensitive, have the option of reading the profiles and booking according to that.  Truth is, this guy never said anything about smoke smell, not once.  He could have backed out the minute he said I kissed him, not kick me out after I had made good effort with him for over half an hour and tried to be creative, flirty, tried to get him to participate (in our game of twister), and yes, got discouraged after another 10 minutes of him laying there doing nothing but communicating hostility.  

Just to say it, this was another example of someone who was very resistant to valid screening.  It never fails, high maintenance in screening always ends up being that during and AFTER the encounter.  That will never happen again. One thing I think I will mention is that he does not realize that his name and home phone, and his address are listed.  Yes, matched his ID too.  He is lucky I am not so vindictive as he is, as there are some ladies who would be so angry or hurt by his treatment, that his e-mails could easily be printed out, and mailed to his SO.  Particularly when it is very clear that he was trying to impact someone's livelihood which he has no incling of who else might rely on and and may even be in grave need.  Most would never imagaine who else us ladies might be helping believe it or not.  I would never do anything like that because I would not want to bring pain to his unknowing family.  But, there are some that would, and feel justified by the way he treats what he considers just a whore.  I hope you are reading this sir.  This is not a threat, just a reminder that you are in a playing field that could just throw you a curve ball and YOU should be more careful and protective of your family.  I hope you take this seriously, because there are some that would do that.  As I said, I would NOT, I have got alot more heart than that, but the idea that I thought of it is not limited to little ole me...you should think twice before you treat a woman so badly, just because you didn't like her look, or she didn't measure up to your high and mighty expectations.  The only reason I am telling you this, is because YOU need to learn too.  This is a gift from me to you.  You need to be careful out there.  If I was a girl that totes a thug around, you could have been in even more serious trouble.  It is important to note that I never did feel physically threatened or afraid.  I don't think you are dangerous, but your actions can be dangerous to yourself.  Wake up man!  Get a grip!  

After reading his other reviews, I did notice that he consistently scores lower than reviewers of same girls.  Although all got higher scores than me, lol...some of his may have had a glowing text, but scores are consistently lower than what he reported in text, on most accounts.  This guy is a very critical person by nature.  I just got to be the one that showed his true, nasty, passive aggressive side when at his worst.  

I am content to know that most of you guys are so generous in spirit it truly moves me.  I have received reviews that surprised me immensely.  I find that most are so kind and nice during our date, and even more so when they write reviews.  There have been a couple of occasions I should have gotten a bad review!  And didn't, and was relieved, lol.  I have never had more affirmation in my life, than I have found here in this community, and that has affected my life so positively. It has bolstered confidence that I am grateful for.  

My biggest point I hope to offer here I suppose is that if you don't like someone, don't go forward, and then try to get over on someone as if they were at fault after they tried.  None of us ever has to do that.  Just be gracious about it.  It would be alot nicer for all concerned.  Also, read the profiles as well as the reviews and select accordingly whether it be age range, physical preferences, and our VICES!  :)  

Now, let's all just have a great Super Bowl weekend!  :)  I LOVE you man!  Got any more of those Maduros?

Jenni






-- Modified on 2/5/2005 4:19:27 PM

I know this guy will be lynched soon by 'The fan club'.

loverofwomen is obviously a misnomer.  Jenni is as wonderful of a woman as there is in this world.  She is the epitomy of professional, is sweet, and would never take from anybody what she is not entitled.  lover, you've got a lot to learn about life, treating women with respect, and looking at your role in things around you.  jenni -- you are number one with me, and I am comfortable telling everybody that you deserve the utmost respect.  And loser loverofwomen ought to know -- that jenni doesn't have a "bruise", but a small scar.  So loverofwomen, and all in general, should think before they talk out of their ass.

Plea for Reason2403 reads

...in his case? A misnomer indeed. Simply latching on to a handle does not infuse one's self with the attributes that the handle would suggest. Perhaps he has set a target date in 2007 as to when he might actually be worthy of being recognized as a "lovewomen" kind of guy. At any rate he strikes me as someone who objectifies women as if their only purpose is to serve his shallow needs and nothing more.

Mr 2007 you come across as one of the most self absorbed jerks as I've ever encountered in this community. As the previous poster so aptly stated you need to take a look around, a good hard look in the mirror to find your problem. (Hint: it's the guy staring back)

To a large measure you get what you give, and if you are so self absorbed, so lacking in just basic respect for others then you can expect to be as miserable as you apparently are and will be for as long as you are in denial. Perhaps you ought to consider altering that handle to say, lovewomen2020, or some year far in the future because you most certainly have a lot to learn about life, and most specifically about treating women with respect.

Jenni is all those things the previous poster mentions, she is generous and kind with a good heart and her beauty is more than skin deep.

Just take a look at this post she recently made on this board:

http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=30397&boardID=7&page=2

Jenni, you are a spirited woman and know that those of us who know you, and respect you, recognize how remarkable you are--simply the best.





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giveitarest2303 reads

Since when do you all want to muzzle or sensor someones opinion on this site?? Isn't it what TER is all about? Anybody with half a brain would throw out his rating of Jenni as being too far out of the mainstream, afterall she has multiple pages of glowing reviews. You Knights in shining armor seem to want to rescue the damsel in distress here by pontificating about this enormous, unjustified insult to such a virtuous person. Based on your vitriolic responses one would think Mr. lovewomen2007 insulted your mother, sister, or girlfriend.

So lovewomen wasn't pleased with his time spent with Jenni..So what? Disregard his review if you want, but berating him on this forum for your own selfish reasons is borderline pathetic.

Plea for Reason2734 reads

... well, assholes. Everyone has one but some manage to embrace the notion of simply BEING an asshole in the process of stating an opinion.

I think most would see the obvious flaw in your logic with perhaps the exception of yourself, Einstein!

No one has censored Mr lovewomen2007. His review is there, it stands. You seem to think it's perfectly fine for the so called "opinion" stated in this review to simply go unchallenged but then would in turn make your own attempt to take issue with or berate those who choose to challenge said "opinion".

Engaging in a little "pontificating" of your own with your "knights in shining armor" analogy.

If he had simply stated in some reasonable and civil way his case it would be perhaps a bit different. If you want to see vitriolic response then simply re-read the narrative in that review.

Jenni doesn't need someone rushing to her defense. She is quite capable of handling herself quite well thank you very much. That's not what this is about. It's about basic respect for human dignity.

Now, care to give it a rest???

Addendum: Apparently the review that initiated this thread has been taken down. Not sure how that came about but perhaps reason has prevailed in some way.




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-- Modified on 2/4/2005 4:11:06 PM

Everyone with a lengthy opinion (except me) posted under an alias.
At least Mr. 2007's review of Jenni is not anonymous!

Plea for Reason8464 reads

...and duly noted. I have mixed feelings about the use of an alias.

If the point of using an alias is simply to distance one's self from his own words for some self serving reason or just to take pot shots behind  an "undisclosed identity" then I would take exception to that myself.

It should be noted however that there remains a great deal of annonymity even with one's primary TER identity especially in those cases where there are no reviews linked to that identity.

I haven't racked up a lot of "frequent poster miles" in this community so few would recognize me. When I do post more often than not I use my primary identity.

I have reviews linked to my primary identity and on occasion depending on the subject matter choose not to post under that identity simply because I don't want my message to get lost because of perceived bias or conflicts of interest, no matter if there is no justification for such claims.

Unlike most, if not all, who posted in this thread I have a review of Jenni. I'm not here as a PR man for her(she doesn't need that), and simply didn't want to open myself up for the typical "fan club" and "knights in shining armor" comments that have appeared here almost ad nauseum at times when someone like myself simply tries to point out a wrong. It's a subtle point perhaps in justifying an alias, and perhaps it's even moot now that I have revealed under this alias that I have reviewed Jenni.

That review by Mr. 2007 was insulting and just plain wrong and I stand by my comments. I just didn't want the message to get lost by the tendency of some to focus on the messenger.

Not the best of explanations but the most I can do in the moment.

Just as an afterthought, if Mr 2007 is defensible at all in this matter it is within the very narrow confines of having posted the review under his primary identity, which is not optional if I have my facts straight. In my view that's really rather inconsequential in the big picture with respect to this issue.




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YMMV and everyone has the right to their opinion, but when it comes to posting something slanderous, I reserve the right to say "JENNI ROCKS!"  Don't mess with my GFE, man!  She's not my mother, sister, aunt, or distant cousin, but she's just as precious.  Having seen a fair number of ladies, and having experienced a wide range of expectations and disappointments, Jenni is near the top in my book.  enough said.

Jenni's pics are as acurate a representation as anyone elses.  Yes. Certainly, they were not taken 'yesterday.'  But I looked.  And, they are a fair representation of the LADY.

Her reviews certainly states she smokes.  So....by the amount of reviews Mr. 2007 has made, he certainly could not have missed that read.  

Jenni is right.  The client does have to "participate in the action."   Jenni's site clearly states this is her preference.

Finally, Mr. 2007 RIPPED OFF Jenni.  Bottom line.  No different then a provider promising x for x and then saying "more."  DOnations are not based on satisfaction, especially when the client is non-participatory.  I am sure we've all had experiences where we walked out and thought; man that just was not that great.  I have.  But still, you donate what was 'contracted' for.  MAybe do not go back.  Definitely no 'tip.'

I thinks all who say Jenni in the next few weeks kick in $5/10.00 extra and the hobby 'community' will cover for one of our lesser "members."

I could go on & on but why bother?  Fact is his review will be seen for what it is.  

Jenni is a stalwart.  She is straight up.  I do not see her as often as I'd like because I am 'spur of the moment' and she is not.  Just the way it is.  Just like she is in her 40's, has accurate pics and it is known she smokes.  Just as Mr. 2007 "knew."

Nuff

tikal1413 reads

Wow, that review disappeared in a flash.

I don't know why people get so upset when someone gets a bad review, not everyone clicks with everyone, people have bad days etc. Two years ago I had two amazing sessions with one well-reviewed person in SD then last year we hooked up again and it was the worst ever. She's still getting 9s and 10s and I'm still enjoying other ladies, doesn't mean she is crap and I am a moron.

And I would like to think that most of us are adult enough to read more than one review to get an overall feel for a person, not let one bad review taint our whole opinion.

If we are saying that our favourites aren't allowed to have bad reviews then this site will become worthless.

I have also had encounters with the same lady that were great one time and not so great the other time.  Hey, we all have bad days once in a while.

The pictures of Jenni on her web site are what she appears like right now with the only mystery being a partially obscured face.  Lovewomen2007's review was most likely pulled because he said that he tried to send her away without paying her after she had given him oral for a while.  That is just not right.  He stated in his review that he didn't like her appearance but went ahead with the appointment.  He has to take some of the responsibility for his disappointment since he decided to go ahead with the session.  I have had a few occasions before TER where I sent agency ladies packing with a token payment for their trouble because I didn't like the lady's appearance.

Finally, it is more than OK to write a poor review if that is how you really feel.  We all have to keep in mind that while these encounters are a bit of a fantasy, that we are dealing with real people with real feelings.  I know I would feel a bit worse about a performance review at work if my boss wrote something like "Mike is a fat-ass lazy slob" rather than "Mike could stand to improve his performance in the following specific ways".  I'm all for ripping into the ladys that are truly rip-offs but I really don't see anything good coming from degrading a lady who cares about her performance.  If you didn't get along, fine, write about that without the unecessary personal digs.

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Plea for Reason2432 reads

...but I would take great exception to the last line in your comment. I don't think for a moment that this is a matter of suggesting "bad reviews" are not allowed.

That is simply a vast over generalization. Writing a bad review does not give someone carte blanche to abandon all civility and even suggest in some veiled way the possibility or threat of physical force. The comment he made with respect to a reduced donation because he exercised the choice to end the contracted time early seemed to at least imply that something like that could happen(may or may not be the case).At any rate that was nothing more than a petty little power play by some chest thumping, "macho", I'll show them who's the boss perverted mentality. You want pathetic? That's pathetic.

This thread has just about run its useful course from my perspective.



-- Modified on 2/5/2005 12:55:55 PM

I thought it would be interesting to just sit back and watch this thread for awhile.  I appreciate and needed some support regarding this past review.  I felt terrible that night.  Not when I arrived, but by the time I left I sure did.  I feel this guy should have just told me I was not what he expected and ask me to leave vs. working me like he did and then trashing me. I have had one other occasion where a guy told me I was not what he expected and handed me the envelope and politely said he declined.  Now that is a champion of a gentleman.  I have also chosen to leave when I realized within minutes we were going to have a terrible time, without asking for show-up fee.   His viewpoint is no doubt entirely valid to him, but hopefully he will read this and learn.  I think it is very wrong for him to go forth as he did, and then order me out as if I had done something really wrong to him.  I could not help but notice his lack of response, after quite a bit of effort.  I have had other times where a guy for whatever reason could not rise to the occasion.  This happens once in awhile.  However when that has happened, I have had the gent say that he was tired, or that some medication has some sort of effect or what ever and then a massage, or just lying together and talking and being kind to each other.  I have never been attacked for it before like what occurred here.  I did ask him for guidance, and was told I was doing "fine".  I finally gave up when it was obvious I was beating a dead horse so to speak.  I then got myself a glass of water (which was never offered), and I did ask him if he was tired, had taken some medication or had had some drinks.  He then got very angry and belligerent.  And told me to leave, and I had to demand some compensation for my time.  It was just a real drag.  We all have our bad days, and IMHO he was having a bad day.  I am sure we have all had the experience of meeting someone in all sorts of random situations and for some reason was completely repelled by that person immediately, no matter what.  For no real reason.  That just happens.  This guy should have acted appropriately at that moment, and as far as I am concerned violated me first, by going forward, second by treating me as though I was some sort of criminal rip-off, third by cheating me on my time, and lastly for writing in such of a mean way.  

For him to make me seem like a dumb ghetto bitch that was out to get him was ludicrous.  He wants to snivel about smoke smell; well my profile reads that I smoke.  Yep, one of my vices.  I try very hard to make sure I don't have that residue on me when I meet someone, and my reviews will reflect that with the exception of one or two, and then again, I say read the profiles.  If I go overtime which occasionally I do, for instance had a 3 hour date the other night and going into the 4th hour with this very fun party animal if I choose to stay longer, and they want me to and I am not asking for additional compensation I will do that with or without permission.  Or if someone tells me to relax and do that, I will.  Otherwise I do not.  People who are that sensitive, have the option of reading the profiles and booking according to that.  Truth is, this guy never said anything about smoke smell, not once.  He could have backed out the minute he said I kissed him, not kick me out after I had made good effort with him for over half an hour and tried to be creative, flirty, tried to get him to participate (in our game of twister), and yes, got discouraged after another 10 minutes of him laying there doing nothing but communicating hostility.  

Just to say it, this was another example of someone who was very resistant to valid screening.  It never fails, high maintenance in screening always ends up being that during and AFTER the encounter.  That will never happen again. One thing I think I will mention is that he does not realize that his name and home phone, and his address are listed.  Yes, matched his ID too.  He is lucky I am not so vindictive as he is, as there are some ladies who would be so angry or hurt by his treatment, that his e-mails could easily be printed out, and mailed to his SO.  Particularly when it is very clear that he was trying to impact someone's livelihood which he has no incling of who else might rely on and and may even be in grave need.  Most would never imagaine who else us ladies might be helping believe it or not.  I would never do anything like that because I would not want to bring pain to his unknowing family.  But, there are some that would, and feel justified by the way he treats what he considers just a whore.  I hope you are reading this sir.  This is not a threat, just a reminder that you are in a playing field that could just throw you a curve ball and YOU should be more careful and protective of your family.  I hope you take this seriously, because there are some that would do that.  As I said, I would NOT, I have got alot more heart than that, but the idea that I thought of it is not limited to little ole me...you should think twice before you treat a woman so badly, just because you didn't like her look, or she didn't measure up to your high and mighty expectations.  The only reason I am telling you this, is because YOU need to learn too.  This is a gift from me to you.  You need to be careful out there.  If I was a girl that totes a thug around, you could have been in even more serious trouble.  It is important to note that I never did feel physically threatened or afraid.  I don't think you are dangerous, but your actions can be dangerous to yourself.  Wake up man!  Get a grip!  

After reading his other reviews, I did notice that he consistently scores lower than reviewers of same girls.  Although all got higher scores than me, lol...some of his may have had a glowing text, but scores are consistently lower than what he reported in text, on most accounts.  This guy is a very critical person by nature.  I just got to be the one that showed his true, nasty, passive aggressive side when at his worst.  

I am content to know that most of you guys are so generous in spirit it truly moves me.  I have received reviews that surprised me immensely.  I find that most are so kind and nice during our date, and even more so when they write reviews.  There have been a couple of occasions I should have gotten a bad review!  And didn't, and was relieved, lol.  I have never had more affirmation in my life, than I have found here in this community, and that has affected my life so positively. It has bolstered confidence that I am grateful for.  

My biggest point I hope to offer here I suppose is that if you don't like someone, don't go forward, and then try to get over on someone as if they were at fault after they tried.  None of us ever has to do that.  Just be gracious about it.  It would be alot nicer for all concerned.  Also, read the profiles as well as the reviews and select accordingly whether it be age range, physical preferences, and our VICES!  :)  

Now, let's all just have a great Super Bowl weekend!  :)  I LOVE you man!  Got any more of those Maduros?

Jenni






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giveitarest1890 reads

As I was trying to express above, Mr. lovewomen sounds as if he did not have a very good time, but because of his extreme negativity his review should be discounted. Even though it seems to me that this guy has more problems and issues with himself than you, he still can write whatever he chooses if he desires. Kinda like when the Olympics are on TV and some judge from the competitors home country gives out a crazy high score...those scores are thrown out too. We have never met, but I'd be willing to bet that you have a much happier and content life than sad Mr. lovewomen.

However, that being said, you make a pretty compelling argument above to never give out traceable personal information. A lady of lesser ethics and stability than yourself could pretty easily ruin some guys life if she decided to exact some revenge for a less than glowing review.

Just and opinion.

Peace

Perhaps one of the reasons some think we do have the need for vice in this arena, is because people get themselves into potentially dangerous situations over some pretty petty issues.  This scenario could have been dangerous for HIM is what I was saying. There are those who might do bad things to someone who was mean, or unfair.  It really sucks, but at the same time, there are some guidelines here, that help reduce those dissapointments that HE was so angry about.  Like, read the profiles, and if you go against that, don't then be mad at and punish the person you chose against your own grain.  That is all. Or exercize your freedom to change your mind gracefully.  

Mr loverofwomen2007 treated the situation like we were in the ghetto.  Long before he wrote a review.  He wouldn't have gotten away with what he pulled there.  Believe that.

As for potential trouble for writing a less than glowing review, that isn't likely with someone like myself.  If I were to harrass someone, I could be exposed right here, and loose alot of future great dates with the kind of guys I love.  That could be too much of a loss for anyone who has tried to promote a good reputation.  It just isn't worth it.

I was over the entire incident, as it was stupid in my book.  Then he said his point of view in a review.  As is his right. I stated my point of view.  And also offered him some sane advice to protect himself and others in the future.  I wish the best for all of us.  However, won't sit by and let someone pee all over my walls without offering my perspective.



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fillherup2743 reads

there are women haters or ones who won't admit to themselves that their gay..

Op Amp2173 reads

… he had his first bout of Erectile Dysfunction and it really freaked him out.  Mr. loverofwomen2007 was so angry about not being able to perform that he took it out on Jenni.  He probably had a bad day at work, didn’t get much sleep the night before, and was stressed out to the point that he couldn’t get the little guy to cooperate.

I’ve been with ladies that I didn’t find attractive, but if I’m horny enough, I can just close my eyes and imagine someone else pleasing me, unless ED strikes.

It’s OK if you can’t get it up, but if a provider does her best to bring you to attention and it doesn’t work out, don’t come down on her as if she were to blame, especially with someone as skilled as Jenni in satisfying men.  And you certainly shouldn’t treat her with disrespect and rob her of money that she is due.  

There is no negotiating price after the date starts.  Mr. loverofwomen2007 knew the price of the one-hour date and he became the hobbyist’s version of a Rip Off Bitch, a Rip Off Bastard.  Jenni didn’t leave early.  He threw her out.

This is not censorship, it is justice being served.


Jenni didn't say not to give out good screening information.

What she cautioned against was giving out information if you're going to RIP OFF A GIRL or TREAT HER LIKE SHIT...

This guy was obviously REALLY REALLY stupid, or, he knew ahead of time that Jenni has a value system above reproach.

Had he done something of the same nature to some of the less reputable among the ladies in San Diego, he might have been in for some DEEP trouble.

It was very cool of Jenni to warn him not to try that shit again, she was saving his ass since the next girl may not be so kindly with Jenni's "water off a duck's back attitude".

Moral of the story, if you want to hang out with ladies that are going to make sure we are safe and sane in our dating styles, we're going to know who you are.  And we aren't going to resort to "pulling teeth" in order to get the information.

xoxo
Elise

FunSearcher2067 reads

lovewomen2007, Don't worry about what other said. You did what others didn't even have guts to do it. A few of us admire you very much.

Jenni is a very nice lady, but she had a bad day. lovewomen2007, you just told the truth. As of others, they're just Jenni groupie. You can't badmouth about George Bush in a republican territory, that's all.

Guess what, they pulled your honest post out.

If you feel the way you do, why don't you post reviews and share your insight with the rest of us?

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