It seems to me that the HBI is increasing faster than the CPI-Consumer Price Index.  Recently, there have been a number of new providers on the local scene with their donations, $400-500 per hour, considerably higher than in the past, as recently as last summer.  I am not sure what is driving this inflationary spiral.  I look at a provider's photos, profile, reviews, and donation when choosing a potential date.  The latest providers to post ads list the aforementioned donations and photos but have minimal info in their ads, maybe GFE, and don't have any reviews.  Communicating with the ladies doesn't seem to provide much enlightenment about their profiles. $400+ per hour based on photos alone is past the point where I would be willing to TOFTT.  Last year, I could take my lumps for $300-350.  Tell me it's my imagination or failing memory.

I have noticed the same thing. I have also been puzzled by the inflation. And, that's what I think it is. Inflation. However, the economy is struggling and will be in decline, soon so I think the inflated pricing will come down too. At least for those without anything to justify the extra price.  

and as far as the 700 and up girls, I'm reminded of the old joke where the gal tells the john that she'll do anything for XXX dollars.  He says, "Paint my house."

It's the new providers that I question.  The ladies with photos, profiles, and reviews don't seem to be in a race to see who can charge the top donation.  Recently, I had a marvelous, superb experience with an established, gorgeous, sexy, profiled, and reviewed lady who exceeded the lofty accolades that other guys have heaped upon her.  She played an impeccable Beethoven Moonlight Sonata on my ivory for $500 per hour and it was worth every cent.  Guess what?  Her rate is the same as it was 2 years ago.  Would I pay $500 per hour for a non-reviewed provider without info in her profile based on her photos, hot as they may be, alone?  Tungofun4u to Introductory Providers, "Make it real!"

Sorry IncallMan - I shared this with you via PM

Joe, sorry for what? I think you are absolutely right. We don't agree often but we do on this. Hobby on.

Law of supply  and demand always wins.

Providers only charge outrageous prices because some guys are willing to pay it.  Personally, I have no idea why anyone would pay that much.  There are plenty of women who only want half as much and provide top tier services.  But I'm not to judge.  

Only two providers were over 500/hour when I began made the scene as Goldie...
I came in at 600 - soon, ladies began becoming 600. For example our former #1 provider "EF" was 700 for 2 hours before she became #1 on the list and before I came in starting 600. Suddenly she is 650 per hour now that she is on the list.

I saw one of my long-time regular clients yesterday. He told me that he was asking for something specific on the boards. One of the providers asked what he would pay for that and he told her.

Goddess Jezebel had a wonderful turn out last year & it gives everyone in the community an opportunity to see if there maybe chemistry!

See you at Hong Kong around 2.  I will have a white cowboy hat and wearing a grey TShirt that says Hurley.  If you see me lets have a Corona!  I have to get my VIP card reloaded today.  Beunos Tardes

Thank you for the provider perspective Goldie.  Yes, there are ladies who post here at one rate and on other sites at a different rate.  I am always skeptical of the "discount" rate as it may come with a "discount" service.  

If only half of these guys knew what exists just south of the boarder...

You're wrong.

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I know one thing for sure.  This entire thread wouldn't exist because they wouldn't be over paying.  But as many have said before me - it's all a personal decision what we pay.  I have no beef if a provider wants to charge  whatever she wants and if hobbyists want to pay - good for them as well.  In the end as long as both parties are happy that's all that matters.

I have two GFs here who have minimal reviews and activity here but are 500 hourly
Why? Because they are worth it.  

You don't seem to have seen any ladies over 300/hour from a glance at your reviews.

No offense taken.  In fact, it would be really hard to offend me.

NO Shitty attitude like "The one with the pussy makes the rules".  Hard to find in TJ.  But they are beautiful!!!  Viva Mexico

What an interesting thread this is!  
Might I speak from my own personal experience as someone who has been a companion for a fair amount of time~  
 
 
When I first began I wasn't half as good a companion as I am today...  
I began as an awkward, socially ungraceful, fairly angry girl with no idea what I was doing.  
I believed that I was just supposed to spread my legs and hope for the best, and all of my interactions were strictly sex for money. Nothing else. No connection. No concern, no care involved.  
 
I also believed that everyone who fucked me was just out to take advantage. This made my heart hard.  
 
Lower prices, Higher volume, clock watching turn-style service.  
There are many girls that start like this, and this flavor of girl is what the world considers a prostitute, which to me, is so very different than an escort, courtesan or companion.  
 
I began to evolve as I realized that there was so much more to this whole world than sex.  
Thus began my own transformation from one side of the coin to the other....  
 
 
In my eyes there is an art form to true seduction and connection, to reading your lover, to being that safe space for those who come to me with not just hard cocks but vulnerable hearts as well... They seek something they lack, and many don't know what it is.  
 
My intimate world revolves around the small details that let my lovers know that just as they believe I am special and wonderful, that I believe the same of them in return...  
 
These little details manifest themselves in special music that floats in the room as they enter which is chosen just for them, my knowledge of their preference of red or white wines, their favorite color and style of lingerie, their style of lovemaking, and indeed their very hearts. All these little things that make their souls happy. Its in the minutia, in the finesse that many men desire.  
 
These lovers aren't just looking for a million girls to bang in TJ for the lowest price possible, and I can guarantee they can't do what I do...Connect.  
 
My clients return to me for years at a time and get to know all my little quirks and eccentricities as well.  
They know I hate flowers, they know I love books, they let me know in the interim of our preludes that they are thinking of me, just like I do.  
The ability to deeply connect with my counterparts is an insanely valuable addition to their lives and they don't view me as a "service".  
 
While many men simply seek a pretty orifice to get their rocks off, not caring to ever return to the same girl twice, these are not the lovers that I am particularly interested in. These men are not my bread and butter...These men are looking for the lowest price for the most services.  
 
There seems to be a faulty logic to this thread that there should be a correlation between money and services.  
However the fault lies in the services you believe correlate.  
 
Anyone can give a blowjob. Anyone can make you cum.  
 
However in my mind the service thats so valuable, the true correlation, is the emotional impact during and after the session.    
 
Asian Agencies: amazing service, punctual gorgeous girls at cheap prices.  
Lower prices, higher volume, turn-style service.  
Everything you would physically want in a session.  
No emotion.  
No connection.  
No English.  
 
There should be a correlation between service and price here. They should be far more expensive right?  
 
However we ignore the intangibles.  
We ignore the heart and soul of it.  
We Ignore the connection  
 
I provide what I would refer to as EMOTIONAL LABOR and have found that it's often far more valuable than mere physical labor, and my clients also see it as more valuable and much harder to come by. That's what so very many return for.  
 
This is what I charge more for.... this is what I had raised my prices after I evolved for.  
 
Not to make your cock hard, but to make your heart skip a beat and your soul hit cloud nine and to give you peace in my sanctuary when the real world has kicked your ass.... I replenish you by more than orgasm.  
 
And by this philosophy I flourish NO MATTER what the economy looks like...I don't run specials, I don't reduce price.  
I'm always booked.  
 
My regulars are kind, thoughtful generous romantic and passionate on more than just a physical level.  
 
Seduction and Connection as an art form... A State of mind. I charge more cause I now offer more.

Unfortunately, not everyone takes their job as seriously as you do.  You're truly special.

People ask me - hope I can refer them to you

I completely agree and commend you for stating how important it is to make a connection that extends beyond just sex.  I have been fortunate in meeting a wonderful lady that I could easily spend an entire day with her.  Charm, fun, and drama-free sums up what I look for when I describe a once in a lifetime experience.  

Of course you can refer them to me.  I'm always willing to help as best I can.  I just need to renew my VIP status.  It's amazing how your inbox blows up as soon as you make a few comments.  

This has been a very interesting thread to read, as have a number of the responses as well.  

Is the type of client, that you get at certain price points. I find in certain cities, that some clients price cap is $300/ hour. I can raise a provider's rates to $350/hour and it doesn't matter who the lady is, these certain clients will not book with her again. I have providers that are $300 an hour on up. I find more clients in the $300/hour range complain and nitpick over the silliest shit.  

Except that the data reported by YOU clients says otherwise lol  

that chart means very little. There are so many other factors that are omitted.  

I've seen about a dozen different providers over the last year. Only one has increased her donation. Two higher priced gals run specials fairly often. The rest have been steady. (I'm not seeing inflation).

Bic, are you saving these for yourself, because you haven't given a 10 to a TJ girl in years. Based on a quick check of the TJ agency sites, $60 doesn't get anything.

Eva, did you pull together this chart? such a NERD, LOL.
Seriously, thanks for the hard data, but I'm not sure you can draw the conclusion that you get better service if you pay more. You'd need a blind study of "dates" with no donation from girls who normally provide at various price points. Only then would you eliminate an 'expectation-based" bias. Any gals care to volunteer?

Not trying to poke or offend Goldie, but your marketing strategy does seem to rely on that "much better in your own mind than had you payed the full rate."
You've gone from 600 to 1,000 (with 300 for extra hours) back down to 600 and you're often running specials.

If you got all day long...
 To play Indiana Jones ... To save a nickel .... Good for you  save your extra money and Rosetta Stone.

Please don't forget,  those observations are not coming from gentleman.
 The trip to TJ and back is worth the added expense of seeing a beautiful lady to America with references ... Priceless

I never mentioned the numerous escort sites, which are amazing in their own right.  They're very similar to the Asian agencies in SD, but less than half the price (and 99% of the girls are Latina, not Asian).  

You're doing it wrong, my friend.  Half the fun is spent at the table with them.

I gotta agree with GK that an endorsement from a well established provider gives a "new girl" instant credibility. I've had more than 1 regular introduce me to a "friend" who's new and have never been disappointed.

Please define "often"
I don't reduce my rate - I offer extra time
That's a huge difference than the ladies who secretly post 200-300 hourly less on certain "cliquy" sites claiming it's a special for "those" users... I LOVE giving repeat dates a spacial offer. I will PM you the sites. Maybe if all the guys know this they will have some rate consistency on all of them and make it so you guys don't have to "shop around".

So you're the one responsible for he rate increase?  I'm just kidding.  But seriously, you're free to charge whatever your market will bear.  If you can consistently book dates at 600/hr, why wouldn't you?  That being said, if I can get full GFE for $100, why wouldn't I?  

I hear what you're saying tung; however, there are still plenty of providers who are excellent dates at less than 300. 6 of the last 8 ladies I have reviewed here were between 200 and 260. 5 of those were terrific dates. Check em out.
Have done TJ too thru an agency with first-rate hotel part of package, as I don't go into clubs there. Nice girls at bargain rates, but you do have to allot a good bit of time when you factor in getting to the border, crossing both ways, and getting back home. In my case, a friend and I combined the hobbying with a round of golf there to make a day of it; but not everyone has that time available.

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The girls in TJ have way less cost of living then we do in San Diego, so how is comparing rates on two totally different markets valid?  I think most San Diego providers couldn't even pay their rent, along side of their incall costs if we charged what TJ girls did who work in group setting without a private incall location.
 Yes for less money, you can travel across the border to see legal prostitutes, I think most people are aware of this.
 The is helpful information though, and for people that want bargain cute rate, they should do the work and make the trek for the day over to Mexico. It works well for some, others' don't have the time or even want to have to deal with all that for a hobby that is a luxury, not a necessity.  

If you're going to adventure south of the border check the latest listings with the Department of Defense off limit list it could save you a lot of hassle and a disappointing evening.

I'm not the white knight but,
 This is not car service ...

Everytime I come back to this thread it gets uglier and uglier it should be Canned!
 I would not date any of these guys with this lowball comments ... Sorry old-fashioned common Sence  still applying here!
WHITE KNIGHT

Why would you check with the DoD before going to Mexico?

You're absolutely right.  They are two very different markets.  However, they are geographically so close to each other that as a consumer, they're basically the same.  It would be extremely inconvienent to cross the boarder for everyday items, such as groceries.  But for an every so often hobby, the slight inconvience is well worth the savings.  With added incentives, like a nearly 17:1 exchange rate, it makes it even less inconvenient.

I'm just throwing this out there, but I'm going to guess English isn't your first language.

Obviously English is not your first language  

So, you're referring to active duty personnel?  My question was why would the average person check the DoD list?  I'm referring to TJ, not Baghdad.  

I was thinking about this last night and got kind of angry actually!
So this is a bit of a rant/rave LOL - not specifically about anyone, just a general opinion. Gotta vent! Heehee

Here's one hobbyist that agrees with Goldie. Are we even sure the girls are working voluntarilly? There is so much corruption in Mexico I can see how a girl could get trapped in the lifestyle by pimps forcing them to work against their will. Happens here. I bet it happens a lot more there.

Goldie, I think it's great providers are talking about their rates.  I truly enjoy and respect your opinion.

YOU  
1.  As you stated in an earlier post, the cost of living is much lower in TJ than it is in SD.  Obviously this is true.  The reality is, $60 goes a long way in there.  I know it's hard to believe, but to a lot of the girls, $60 is "enough."  I'm sorry, but there are plenty of escorts out there who would feel taken advantage of at $600/hr.  Everybody's different.  

No, I meant providers.  There are plenty of providers who would laugh at offers under $1,000/hr.  These same girls would probably consider you cheap for only asking $600.  My point is, it's relative.  

The fact that you took this thread this deep in a 'No-Win' battle.  She already told you that she has the pussy therefore she makes the rules.  Unfortunately you are wrong - ALL WRONG!  Not in my mind.  I'll see you at HK on Friday.  Long weekend ahead and plenty of ladies to SMASH at $60.  Cheers!  First Cerveza on me.

Yes, she is Miss Frenchie's protégé, butt............https://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=13864&boardID=95&page=1#13864
She has photos, donation, and...............a price.

I think Goldie's response covered this. Paraphrasing: " I've got a friend and I'm vouching for her."
Goldie has presented new friends, so has Frenchie, and just recently so has Alivia Amoretta. If you've seen these ladies and trust them, and have no issues with their rates you shouldn't need a review to justify the asking price for their friend. Seriously I'd much sooner trust a girl I've been with and had a great time with than any review or even back-channel info.

probably you get same service but if you have high disposable income you simply do not look for bargain providers like you do not buy cheap cars & you do not live in the ghetto. It is all relative but if you think you are smarter because you pay less...I hate to tell you but you are not. If you were smarter you would be rich. LOL

It's not about what I can afford.  My point was, women can charge whatever they want.  It has no bearing on their talent.  For example, two of he most orally talented women in San Diego are both under $300.  PM me if you want their names.