there isn't a real straight forward answer as this is one of the many grey areas in this world.
I don't know how the session was or how bad if you wish.
However, I know that if it was me, I would rather have the guy giving me a feedback via email.
Having said that, it is important first for you to reflect on how much money you paid her and for how long, how old (or young ) the girl is, working conditions (potential pimp?) or any other factor which may suggest there may be a reason for her lack of entusiasm.
What I am saying is that if she is cheap and hot and young and that, well, sorry but then all you can do is blame yourself.
if se is high end and young (18 or so) sorry but I do question that too.
if she is not all that young, expencive and 100 % independnet, consider how much care you did put in personal grooming & hygene just before the date.
If you feel you have fairly considered all the points I have made above and there was no excuse for the poor performance, then yes send her an email and who knows you may be pleasently surprised.
I am not saying this is law in stone. Thisis just how I would go about it personally
PS kind of you to be cautious on not dameging her finantially
Sx
I have a question for providers. Hobbyists feel free to weigh in as well, but I really wanted to get providers' opinion. I recently saw a provider where I thought my experience was disappointing - especially relative to her glowing recent ratings. I am torn on this because I feel like this is a hobby we all enjoy and for some providers I am sure this is a significant source of income. The last thing I want to do is hurt someone financially, as well as emotionally. But, at the same time, I realize this site is to provide more information on providers so that hobbyists can make more informed decisions. So the question is how would you handle this if you were in this situation? Would you chalk it up to just a bad day and let it go w/o posting a review? Should I just be honest? Should I try to provide feedback offline to the provider? I am just not sure what to do here... Thanks!
These sound like questions for hobbyists...
" So the question is how would you handle this if you were in this situation? Would you chalk it up to just a bad day and let it go w/o posting a review? Should I just be honest? Should I try to provide feedback offline to the provider?"
I tell friends all the time a session is up to you on how it goes. If you have read in reviews great things then take charge and get things going down that road. If you sit back and passively let the session go on with her taking lead and it's not to your liking there is nobody at fault but you. If you speak up and say, "hey less chit chat, suck my cock till you gag" and she says "oh I don't do that" then yes, a review is warranted to warn people of something amiss. If you sit back and let her run things and you never get around to a deep throating who is to blame? Her? I think not. We are not mind readers and don't know what parts of reviews you perked up for.
So to answer your questions with questions:
Did you make requests she did not fulfill and/or did she put effort forward?
If she did not fulfill requests, services advertised and did not put effort forward then a review is needed. If the session could have been improved by feedback IN THE MOMENT then dinging her in a review would only damage her business and not fix a sub-par session.
That's my take.
Goldie
As always, ridiculously good feedback Goldie! Any other providers have other insight. I want to hear from you, as I feel like I have a good feeling for how hobbyists feel. Thanks!
PERFECTLY summed up IMHO. It's the hobbyist's fantasy he's donating for, so let the lady know what you want. If she's a professional ( and mine have all been thanks to researching their reviews beforehand) she'll take it from there ensuring a fun playdate for both parties.
" So the question is how would you handle this if you were in this situation? Would you chalk it up to just a bad day and let it go w/o posting a review? Should I just be honest? Should I try to provide feedback offline to the provider?"
I tell friends all the time a session is up to you on how it goes. If you have read in reviews great things then take charge and get things going down that road. If you sit back and passively let the session go on with her taking lead and it's not to your liking there is nobody at fault but you. If you speak up and say, "hey less chit chat, suck my cock till you gag" and she says "oh I don't do that" then yes, a review is warranted to warn people of something amiss. If you sit back and let her run things and you never get around to a deep throating who is to blame? Her? I think not. We are not mind readers and don't know what parts of reviews you perked up for.
So to answer your questions with questions:
Did you make requests she did not fulfill and/or did she put effort forward?
If she did not fulfill requests, services advertised and did not put effort forward then a review is needed. If the session could have been improved by feedback IN THE MOMENT then dinging her in a review would only damage her business and not fix a sub-par session.
That's my take.
Goldie
Of the way things went down. Like Goldie said, if you contributed to the disappoint, put tht in the review.
"I sat passively beside her for 45 minutes while she updated her facebook status and friended half the planet, the last 15 minutes were great. Perhaps I should have taken charge." That might be an honest accounting of the events but not really detrimental to her client base cause passive people would avoid her and active people would say, "I think she's hot and I'll just tell her what to do".
However, if she just wanted you to do all the work ("I'm beautiful, fuck me. Ok, that's enough."), say that as well.
Ultimately a review (along with a proper attitude) is going to help every provider realize:
a. I ROCK and I'M A SEX KITTEN
b. I'm doing something wrong and I need to change to meet my client's needs
c. This profession isn't for me
d. I'm a ROB and don't care cause next week I'll have another phone, name and ad on the Internet
If you're worried about blow back for being honest, wait a couple of weeks and use your alias to write the review but if you're going to write, BE HONEST. Lies help no one.
If she is defensive, not receptive to your feedback, and blames you for the disappointment, then you should probably write the review.
If she's willing to talk about it, work things out, figure out why the session was disappointing, and if you're still willing to give her another chance, that's the best route imo.
Chances are, the disappointment was a result of miscommunication and/or misinterpreting one another.
You'll get farther with sugar than vinegar.
I would hold back on the review. If you PM those recent reviewers it should give you a good idea whether she had an off day and why they rated her highly. I've had men see me twice because they knew I was having an off day the first time around. Always remember that people aren't robots nor is anyone perfect every single time.
ADIDAS,
Thanks for your feedback! I was already leaning against posting a review and I think your and Goldie's comments confirm that. I would PM you directly, but I don't see a way to contact you - so here goes in the open forum.
The question for you as a provider is: 1) wouldn't you know it was off, and if so 2) wouldn't you try to make up for it - either apologizing during or after, just sending an email following up, or even offering a "make-up sex" special or something? I really think that is just good business. As a hobbyist, it is clear there are many GREAT options out there. There is very little incentive for me to go back to a less-than-good experience without her at least reaching out and trying to make things right.
Am I off here? Please tell me if I am.
hi john
I think if the person gave you a "bad" or Not a "fulfilling" Experience..Tehn send her a PM and ask her for a make up special and if she says No or something rudely abnoxious then DEFINETLY post the review..
If she was having a bad day bc of the guy before you being a bully then she really doesnt deserve the bad review BUT if she isnt willing to make up for it AND/OR apologize...Write the review!!
im so glad to see guys with big hearts and being understanding that Most Peoples Are careers can be hectic & stressful at times
hope i get the pleasure of meeitng s sweet gem like yourself John
hope your next session goes PUUURFECT!
xoxo
there isn't a real straight forward answer as this is one of the many grey areas in this world.
I don't know how the session was or how bad if you wish.
However, I know that if it was me, I would rather have the guy giving me a feedback via email.
Having said that, it is important first for you to reflect on how much money you paid her and for how long, how old (or young ) the girl is, working conditions (potential pimp?) or any other factor which may suggest there may be a reason for her lack of entusiasm.
What I am saying is that if she is cheap and hot and young and that, well, sorry but then all you can do is blame yourself.
if se is high end and young (18 or so) sorry but I do question that too.
if she is not all that young, expencive and 100 % independnet, consider how much care you did put in personal grooming & hygene just before the date.
If you feel you have fairly considered all the points I have made above and there was no excuse for the poor performance, then yes send her an email and who knows you may be pleasently surprised.
I am not saying this is law in stone. Thisis just how I would go about it personally
PS kind of you to be cautious on not dameging her finantially
Sx
Just tell her what you're into and what type of experience you are looking for. Not every provider is going to be a right fit. You guys just might not have clicked. If she ripped you off, I would definitely report that. What exactly went wrong?
I've decided I'm going to end every review with YMMV. I was telling someone the other day, I've seen 10/0 porn stars that couldn't get me hard, and start up agency girls that rocked my world. For me, chemistry is such a huge part of what I do, and it's the most elusive variable over which we have the least control.
Having said that, in my new world view, I would write an honest review with the YMMV caveat. Call it as you see it.
I could not agree more with both YMMV and the importance of chemistry. But, I disagree with calling it as I see it and posting an honest review. The problem is that these scores matter so much for these girls... One bad review can have significant repercussions over a long period for what may have simply been a bad day. I don't think the punishment justifies the crime. I am in the process of trying to work it out directly with her offline, which several recommended. We will see where that goes. I also think Goldie made an important point that I share part of the blame by not making sure I get what I wanted in a session. Thanks everyone for your comments - it has been super helpful!
My only caveat is while you may be the first non flattering review, maybe it wasn't her first non flattering performance. And maybe, if there was a review out there reflecting what you had experienced, maybe you wouldn't have plunked down hard earned coin, only to be disappointed ...
So you don't write one, and the next guy walks into the same situation. And he doesn't write one, because after all she has all these great scores .... but in the same breath we bemoan grade inflation. Change starts with you ...
in 20 years I've only ever had a provider offer me a make up special. she double booked and I was left out side ringing the door bell. On the way back to work she called me and was so upset. I went back amd we had our session (fbsm). She absolutely refused any donation, and the quality was great as always. A real classy person and a total sweetheart, right here in sd
Be honest & write a review, so she knows there is room for improvement.