Hi Gents,

If you're one of those guys that doesn't fit into my traditional schedule, yet you've been wanting to catch up with me for a date, I will have extended hours of opportunity Saturday evening June 26 through Thursday Night July 1.

Please do be familiar with the text of my advertisement prior to sending an email. I think I've made it fairly clear and easy, although I just noticed a typo and I need to call eros about that.

I travel as far north as Rancho Bernardo or Carlsbad.

Contact me through TER first and reap a small benefit.

http://www.eros-sandiego.com/files/sd-elise6.htm

xoxoxo
Elise

Even if we have a date booked, I'll need to cancel on you if you utilize any suggestive, sexual or inappropriate terms whether it be in an email or by phone.  I'd say sorry, but I'm not.  That's just how it is.

I hope you understand.

xoxo
Elise

Elise, After going through your extensive checks and following all your very extensive protocall to the T. I was very unhappy that you cancled on me AFTER I had bought the room. Suggestion, YOU buy the room. Then I bet you won't cancle on a whim. Hugs 'n kisses.

Sorry to hear that.  That's a good "heads-up" to all the other hobbiests.  What's this world coming to when Elise FLAKES out on someone and Jenni of San Diego gets a horrible review.  But HEY, that's what this board is for - to exchange info.  Good job!

Firstly, I cancelled on you the day before the date, just hours after I opened your email.

Your gripe, if you lost any money isn't with me.

Secondly, I had very pointedly let you know inappropriate language in an email wasn't ok, then, you sent along another email with inappropriate language.  

My protocol is only "extensive" for some people,  you happened to be one of those that took several emails and phone calls to get the information taken care of.

Your sole proprietor self employment is exactly the type of side job the bad guys can have and use as cover, so, all things considered, I have to follow my gut and cancelling wasn't a whim, it was a decision.

BTW all of your information has been shredded/deleted.

Elise

Mmmm, no wonder she has so much "free" time on her hands.   Hugs 'n kisses???? Doesn't sound too user friendly to me.

I understand why you would have these restrictions.  Have you ever devised a way (you don't have to say it here just pm me or something) for a guy to get a better understanding? You surely know all the horror stories on our side of the aisle(incorrect profiles, bogus reviews, bad agencies, etc).  

This seems to be one of the biggest dilemmas of our hobby - communication.  Kinda like life, hunh?

I can see that some guys could have options and if there was to be no mutual understanding then they could leave and easily find another friend.  But many guys don't have that luxury. Maybe their wives go out of town one weekend a year and the gents have been waiting a whole year to meet you...

Don't say anything of a sexual nature. It's written in my advertisement for dating. This guy did it TWICE.  

Two separate emails.  

I ignored the first email completely. Whne he called on the phone, I went ahead and instructed him to email me again and tone it down.  After he sent the "employment information" and time he wanted to meet... I said OK"... then, two days later and a day before the date.. WHAMMO.. another email with sexual connotations.

I cancelled a day before the date.  Call me flakey or call me careful.

It's just a date. There's NO REASON to use that kind of language.

I'm into making dates for a relaxing time for the two of us.  That's it.  Nothing further needs be discussed other than the time, the place.

As far as the poster below saying somebody reviewed Jenni harshly.  The guy says he wanted to leave there quickly... but he stays for TWO POPS????  Doesn't sound like her service was THAT BAD?  To each his own. He's got a right to say what he wants, but either he wanted to get out of there quickly or he wanted to stay and use up a bunch of her time and energy.

Again, thanks for asking.

xoxo
Elise

He was ignored on his first email to me, then called to ask why I didn't answer the email.  I found it, let him know I don't answer emails with sexual content.

The day before the date, I open another email with sexual language.

I cancel as soon as I can contact him.  The day before the date.

I don't apologize for being careful.

Thanks for the chance to exchange information.

As far as the Jenni review, the guy wants to leave quickly, but he stays long enough for two pops?  She wasn't so bad now, was she?

Sometimes we just make mistakes when we book a date, that's all.  Luckily for me, I made a good decision a day ahead of time and followed my gut.  Next time I'll remember never to make a consideration for anyone that uses inappropriate language ever.  My bad for booking letting it go in the first place.

Too bad for Jenni she ended up with the wrong guy.  Stuff happens.

The world isn't coming to an end.

xoxo
Elise

Elise has her screening criteria, period! You either go along with the program or you don't. Pretty simple. There is also a gut instinct to contend with as well. Let's put the shoe on the other foot. Have any of you come across an unreviewed girl that looked good and gave you all the right answers? You exchange a few e-mails as date time gets closer but there's a small voice inside telling you that something isn't right. You don't know why and there really isn't any rational explanation for it yet the feeling persists. The less cerebral amongst us don't hear that voice, follow though with the date and end up getting a free ride to the big blue building downtown along with a night of free room and board. Intelligent people follow their instincts in spite of receiving perfect information. We guys put our necks on the block every time we see someone new. The girls do the same and sometimes have more at stake than we do. I trust my gut instincts and it rarely steers me wrong. Shouldn't the girls do the same? There will always be misunderstandings and communication breakdowns but taking an unnecessary risk is idiocy no matter if you're a hobbiest or provider.Cancellations are part of the game. Deal with it!

-- Modified on 6/24/2004 10:21:45 PM

You don't strike me as a flake.

BTW, in reference to another thread, I find your posts most interesting.  Don't let the cads get you down (I know you don't).

There was a very long thread on the General (National) Board about this very topic.

http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/ViewMsgBody.asp?BoardID=12&Page=1&Messageid=100064

There is room for all of us, folks...just walk on a different street if you don't like the one you are on.

Re: My icky review.........

OK, I just have to respond to my HORRIBLE review!  Whaaaaa!

The particular person I saw really floored me with his review.  He was very nice, and I liked him.  I can understand the score for appearance, as we all have different attractions.  If he didn't like my look, that could be very valid for him.  Also, I wonder what someone in his early 30's expects when seeing someone 10+ years older than he is.  Does he think we don't have some flaws due to our maturity?  As for the performance score, I was a bit stunned by it.  A one hour was booked.  He pretty much milked out the hour, and expected a 2nd round at 10 minutes till, which as we all know is NOT required, on top of the fact that I think my fee is very reasonable.  Well, he was easy enough to spend time with, so I spent another hour off of the clock to accomodate him which I felt was very generous.  He didn't seem to be in a hurry while holding out and holding out.  So I was pretty surprised by his "just wanting me out of there thing".  That could have happened within the first hour.  I checked his ratings against other ratings with other girls, and his seemed in line with the opinions of others.  So of course I was a bit hurt.  But......YMMV is a true thing, so I don't worry about it.  I do have to say that it does make me consider not being so generous with giving extra time.  I really think it seems to be best to stick to rules now.  And leave on time.  It is the second time I have had a bad feeling when I thought I was being very nice and generous with my time.  The term "familiarity breeds contempt" seems to come into play here.  At any rate. I still like what I am doing and would still give this fellow a positive reference.  He treated me fine while I was with him, save the "I still need my second round", as if it is required.  Which again I will say it is not.  If guys want that to happen in a ONE HOUR gig, they should let the first one go, so there is time for the second without expecting someone to go around again at HIS sweet time.  Perhaps I should raise my rate to cover the extra time I often do spend to make that happen....feed back anyone?

-- Modified on 6/24/2004 6:28:19 PM

Looking at that guys reviews, he is a tough customer or he makes a lot of bad choices.  Additonally, it sounds like you were MORE than generous with him.  

You offer an extremely reasonable rate, given the quality of your reviews and the respect you have from the community.  Only you can know what is best for you, and your clients are the best source for opinions on your rates, but I agree with the previous poster when a provider on your level gets reviewed in such a cavalier manner.  Not cool.  

Actually, reference checking is a different subjsect altogether so I will stick to the original post regarding Elegant Elise simply NOT SHOWING UP.  Here's how I believe things should work - If you aren't gonna show up - have the COMMON COURTESY to tell the other party.  That's all - SIMPLE.  So whether you are a hobbiest who suddenly feels uncomfortable or a provider - be RESPECTFUL.  Everyones time is valuable - some more than others.

Read between the lines. My reviews are stellar. I've been active (not here) for many years. I know what to say and how to say it. This gal was just plain mean to me. Oh yea and thanks for deleating  / shredding all my personal info. Such a peach! Look I'm over it now. My reviews speak for themself. I'm a giver much more than a taker.

I've seen Elise several times and can attest, she can be as "elegant" as you want, or a raunchy as you want, or anything in between (except arrested).

She's smart and careful and has "time on her hands" only because she's recently "unretired" and is re-building her clientele.

Like Ginger, Sedona, Jenni, LJ, etc., she's very much worth a little extra effort.  Bottom line: were it not for my selfish desire to keep Elise all to myself, I would recommend that you not carry a grudge, give it a second try, and enjoy an hour or two of unmitigated bliss.

My .02

Jenni, unfortunately I went and read all of this guys reviews.  He hardly says anything truly good about anybody and often combines a seemingly positive statement with some piece of information that negates it. It seems almost pathological especially considering that he must have made an effort at getting you to like him since you thought he was nice.  His review isn't a reflection of YOU.  It's a confession of his own self loathing.  Throw this review out like they do with the lowest in an ice skating competition.  It's so clearly off.

I think you were brave to see him in the first place.  I would never have seen him based on his reviews though I usually try not to judge a guy in this way.  It's just so clear that he is going to find something negative to say no matter what.

The following are quotes each clipped from a different review.  His comments just prove to me what an ugly person he is! ...

(Name Deleted) is lovely, but she doesn't show anything

This girl is sweet, just big

She was so boring and not into it I could barely stay hard -    even with that hot body.

Started to rub my package and got me going, but no real enthusiasm

Got to the location and thought she looked good, but not great

Was getting a little bored (I cannot believe a hot woman like this made me bored getting BJ

i had to instruct her on everything, she is cute though so got hard again

She talks quite a bit and need to be focused a little, she tries really hard to prove she is smart - not offensive though

She is cheap & pleasant, other than that nothing special to run over for

She offered 3rd cup, but i had had it. She talks A LOT - too much for me, even though it wasn't mindless

I think she was probably a real piece of ass about 10 years ago.

Elise, I really don't want to fight, honest. But, I was Never explicit in any of my email. I never talked directly about sex. I called you the day I needed to get the room exactly when I said. And when I got the room I called before the 6p deadline you gave me.You had all my contact info and never called. You said you were out and didnt have my number to call and cancle. Well that's fine to cancle but be a little more considerate. You were quick, sharp and unapoligetic. Look, I'm sure this is the only complaint youve gotten. Like you I want to build / maintain a good repore. Please forgive me if I upset you. I will always do the same for you.

-- Modified on 6/25/2004 9:23:59 AM

I've been very fortunate to have mostly had great dates, and good times.

I do recall one appt. though that IF I had paid for the room, I would have, (and should have) cancelled, but because he already had, and I was aware that there was financial difficulty, I didn't.

with both Jenni & Lily June,..there are always someone who you will never be able to please. It happens in any service oriented business. Someone who has pre-conceived notions and expectations is NOT going to be there with an open mind to enjoy what is being offerred. Instead, all that happens will be through the "filter" of that person's perceptions. And it is never good enough for them.

As for Jenni, I have seen her several times and my advice to Jenni is that you don't have to change a damned thing because of one mere review! Jenni, you are great and I think the rest of your reviews speak volumes about you and your generousity!

I'm sure most ladies do all that they can to maintain professionalism and a good reputation for their service along with common courtesy.
The nature of this business means we can't always act according to how we'd like - it just doesn't. We can try to make any 'change' as pleasant as possible or with as much consideration as possible.
Two weeks ago, I had a date set up and he called to change to an earlier day. But, when I returned the call (he left a vm regarding the change), and we changed the day (to the next day), I hung up with a really bad feeling. It's that gut instinct that told me something wasn't right. I called him very early the next morning and left a vm on his cell to say that I was cancelling. I had provided the location, so there was no expense out of his pocket, and the cancellation was MANY hours before the date, so I tried not to inconvenience him in any way, but something he said really spooked me. I'll never know if I was right or wrong, and if I was wrong, then I lost a potentially good client (or maybe he'll try later), but if I was right..look what I saved myself from.

6 is supposed to mean "Nice".  or is it like high school where you expect to get an 8 just for showing up?

that Elise has very happy customers and provides a visit worth repeating.

So you have to get through the red tape? Well, we all do. As NM said, it's either for you or not, but it seems once you get through it it's all worthwhile, and isn't that part what you're desiring anyway?

would not be construed as 'good'. Most look for a minimum score of 7.
I mean, Rosie Palms is 'nice'.

Did you bother to read the narrative? What's with your remark about expecting to get an 8 just for showing up? I'm not sure you are in a position to evaluate that in this instance, my guess is that you are not, but then again you are using an alias.

The narrative in this guy's review was crude and denigrating.
Clearly way out of line.

LJ in her above post gave us quite an accurate description of this guy. His pathetic pathological self loathing seems quite evident when you read through his reviews. This is his attempt to bring down those around him to his pathetic sorry state. It's a psychological trick he plays on himself to avoid looking at himself and his own shortcomings.








-- Modified on 6/25/2004 6:29:57 PM

Blue672 and Elise are right about the review of Jenni.  It is not so much that he rated her as a 6 - 6 it is about the tone of the review.  The reviewer writes very little that is of any use to anyone reading the review and it is obvious that his intent is to make as many nasty comments about Jenni as possible.  For that reason this review may be a candidate for removal by TER if Jenni wishes to file a complaint.  What I find more incredible is that after she spent almost another unpaid hour making sure that he had a second pop that he had the balls to write a review like this.  In my book what she did is known as going the extra mile and deserves praise not criticism.  Also if he was in such a hurry to leave why did he stick around for a second pop at all.  In my experience if I want to get out that bad I don't stick around asking for seconds.

I don't know the details of what happened between elise and horndoggie so I can't really comment on that particular situation.  

What I do know is that Elise has her own screening procedure and policies.  She is very clear about not saying anything improper over the phone or via email and some words that might not set off alarm bells with other providers does with her.   With the current LE situation in San Diego who can blame her for being cautious.  More importantly from a selfish standpoint when I see a lady especially for the first time I want her to be as comfortable as possible with who is walking through that door because that usually means that I will have more fun.  In fact if she is not comfortable I would rather not have the date.  A recent experience with another intelligent lady reinforced the idea for me of how good things can be when the lady is comfortable with you

In general I think San Diego has some wonderful ladies that seem to work well together to protect each other without detriment to the client and without much of the petty BS that goes on elsewhere.  I think the gentlemen of San Diego should be thankful for these ladies.    

By one swift stroke of your vile pen (err, keyboard...)you have taken one of the most respected of San Diego's leading ladies and have possibly given those of us who have not yet had the pleasure of her company possible reason for pause. Surely not by your review. Not when there is such overwhelming evidence to the contrary. But because you have taken this wonderful, thoughtful and giving woman and have given her reason to suspect. For those of us who have not had the good fortune to have seen her now need to wonder whether or not "one bad apple has spoiled it for the whole bunch." Will she be "dotting every I" and "crossing every T"...? Will coitus interuptus prevail by the chime, buzzer or gong on the one hour mark? While time running over when it's being enjoyed by both parties isn't expected by most of us, the thought of having to moderate and crunch the numbers when you have a preconceived idea of having to hurry up and finish "right on the mark" is never something condusive to having an enjoyable time.
I've been looking forward to the pleasure of Jenni's company for sometime now. And, if she grant's me the opportunity to do so, i'm going to try and not let that "one bad apple" set the tone for our encounter. Still, by her own admission, even after all the accolades given from both sides, one little worm (pun intended) has planted a seed (and yet another) of mistrust in the mind of this incredible lady. Will those of us who she has not yet seen suffer by your vileness? I for one am willing to find out...

Foreveryaction

You wouldn't have liked me.  I have a big giant butt, hips & thighs.

No loss to either of us, I had a really nice date the next evening.

I'm sure there are is a little flock of ladies out there who, because of their discontent with me, will offer you a discount for trying to sully my name.

I'd suggest you let it go if you can't see the trees for the woods and have a nice life.

E

LJ's post says it all.  You took a chance, you gave more than your best, you got shafted and your community of friends here considers that a shitty deal  

You go girl.  You keep on doing what your haeart and lower regions think is right.  Yup, there are some wackos out there who dobn't know who to treat a lady, but don't let them dtop you from being precious, irreplacable, desireable, stay-an-hour-over for the right lover kind of girl.

You're right, he's wrong.  End of story.

You can see me anytime 'cause YOU are a class act beyond compare.  Like I told Steph, you're dealing with the public and you meet all kinds.  It sucks (no pun intended) so just keep on being you and quality will out!

PL

As far as I am concerned, the ONLY excuses for cancelling ONCE we tell you we are booking the room are if, for some reason, you are hospitalized, or if you are PRETTY DAMN SURE that you're walking into an LE sting.

I can fully well understand why he doesn't want to drop it.  You are being way to cavalier about his having wasted the cash for a room.

He would have more than liked you!  He'd have found you charming, beautiful, witty, steadfast, well-spoken, truthful, attractive, willing, demanding, giving.  Won't do no good at this point to claim you're less than REALLY good at this work! ‘Taint so....

So what if a few gals "out there" talk?  Yes, indeed they do but all I really got form their talk was that you are a super excellent provider (oh yeah, "x" will piss you off and y" is a no-no. )  Nothin' there I can't deal with and, thusly informed, every one of our dates has been perfect (from my perspective)

Hey: we don't expect everyone to agree.   That leaves you more time to see the regular sweeties that you really like, right?

Can't wiat to see you again. Love from PL.

Just a note to everyone for the feedback.  It is very nice, and I appreciate it.  

Jenni