So far this year I've heard a handful of stories about girls not showing up for appts. At various stages of setup. From having set the appt. but not calling back to confirm. To calling last minute to cancel.
The funniest one is where a gentlemen came to town. Had set an appt with myself and another girl during his stay. He wanted to talk a little about the biz here vs. the east coast. We swapped a few harmless stories. He then asked me who the flakes are in town. I said I didn't like to bring up names or speak negative about anyone, after all we're all human.
He said he respescted that. He was curious if the other girl he had booked for Sat. night would show. Honestly, from what I've seen lately I said it was 50/50, but he knew how to reach me.
In part joking. With no names being mentioned I didn't know who the girl was.
Sure enough Sunday morning I got an email saying the girl cancelled last minute. Not only that she had suggested he give ME a ring! (LMAO)
By this time it was too late in the evening so he crashed. He said he wasn't sure if he should be upset or relieved when someone flakes.
This is when they typically ask if they should review the girl.
I never know what to say. I'm not there to know how far ahead she had called, or what the reason is.
My thought is if it's was only an hour or so before, or they don't call at all. Then yes, maybe a review should be written. It's nice if they offer other possibilites. But on the weekend re-booking last minute isn't easy.
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Jai, a review is the experience one has during the date with no date there cannot be a review posted, the best outlet is the boards to vent or out a provider that is a flake ......Victoria
I agree, in the past week I had a situation where my calls weren't returned but, I understood the reason and accepted the apology. Today though, I awoke to an email cancelling a meeting that was set up and confirmed two days ago. I'm bummed as I was looking forward to meeting this well reviewed visitor. No excuse was given. My guess is there was a better opportunity in LA. Would love to accept the hollow apology as I'd still like to enjoy the experience but, it just doesn't feel right.
As I don't have time to go back and forth on selective reading.
I did say, "I never know what to say." That 'maybe' a review should be an option.
I don't think it's fair to guys to have to deal with last minute cancellations, with empty or no apology. To only keep it to themselves.
To me an encounter starts with first contact, screening, setting an appt., as well as, follow through. Not whether one decides to show or not. I'd hate to have the wind taken from my sails on a constant no show. Being bi- I've been on both sides of this.
Being able to review somone that constantly flakes, may make people more acountable.
It's just a thought.
I get far too many late night calls from last minute cancellations to know it's not a issue.
A post comes and go's. A review sticks around til you clean up your act.
I think if your on the ball you wouldn't have to worry. Just the people that flake or work when they feel like it would have issues.
I know the way reviews are set up it may not be possible. Hence, I said maybe'. But I think posting is always a good way to handle it, at the least.
Trust me, I've been called out when I've messed up. I think guys have the right, when they have been put through "the process" only to get nothing.
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I agree with you 100% Jai, and this topic was brought up in PHX I too wish the flakey ones on both sides of the coin should be called out....right now though the boards or back channeling seem to be the only option, if anyone has any ideas I would be interested in hearing a possible solution ......Victoria
Something like a Black List, if someone has just repeatedly flaked, double booked, had false reviews etc.
The only thing I can't problem solve is:
If she cleans up her act. How would she come off the List or Board? I'd hate to see it misused.
A few good reveiws from that date forward to be eligble for removal, may be an idea.
Again, this would take the guys input. Pending on how much girls flaking bothers them.
This would seem to be difficult to manage. At what point does one become a flake? There are people who are perpetually late. That may or may not make them a flake. In any event, there is a field on the profile page for this. No shows are another matter -- but, again, does one no show make you a flake? Because we are dealing with humans and the vagaries of life, I don't think a single or even occassional no show warrants branding someone with a scarlet F for flake, especially if she calls to let you know. If she doesn't call, well may be that makes her rude if nothing else. May be you could add a field in the profile screen for no shows without a call? Or, you could add to the review fields, no show without a call, and it gets treated as a zero for calculating the performance average.
I am more concerned about ripoffs who take your money and run or tell you midstream in the heat of the moment that the donation only gets you to third base and you need to double down to get to home -- just like those damned video booths at adult book stores that require you to add more money just when it gets to the good part. With a no show, you may have to spring for the pay per view porn and visit Rosie Palima, but you will still have your coin in your pocket.
I do agree some are always late. I have a best friend I always tell a 1/2 hr. early then I want to meet, for that reason. Late to me is not a flake.
A flake blows things off with no call, or apology, etc. I think we are thinking more those that build a reputation for not showing at all. Or bailing at the last minute with no real reasoning.
I think everyone deserves some slack, so it would be hard to manage. Like I mentioned on another thread. Men seem to be slow to write bad reviews and hurt a girls reputation unless called for.
I would think the same would be so before reporting a no show, if there we're a space on a profile or review that counts as zero.
It's an interesting idea.
Of course if the guys would feel free to be more vocal on the boards, when it happens. That would help mucho.
I don't think any girl likes to be called out on the boards at all. It is embarrassing.
I like the idea of the review including the scheduling process and/or whether the girl was on time or showed at all.
I myself feel it's part of the service.
Luckily ripoffs are covered. The boyz just have to speak up.
wonderful ideas now how do we get them in to play? TER is a hard nut to crack .....but love the ideas...
Most of us, at one time or another, have run into a "flake." However, whether we post here about it or not is up to each individual. Many of us are more than willing to give her another chance before posting. However, some of the guys are in a delicate position and fear that calling her out as a "flake alert" may subject them to consequences far greater than a missed appointment.
The thought being that here is someone who has information about you and might be willing to use that same information against you if you post poorly about her. Face it, if she flakes out on you, then she might not be too stable herself.
all very valid points, had a provider her in PHX seemed very smart and normal then went a little crazy on the boards dissing cetain guys and tried blacklisting them, but if you read between the lines we could all seee she was the problem, and the one with the issues.......its a tough call I guess.....Victoria
If there is an appointment, there is an experience..even if one person wasn't there. If you show up and the door didn't open....well, you were at least thinking to yourself, "I should have stayed home"
Another good point firecracker.....you gals in SD really think on your feet ......smart women how nice and refeshing hope to meet some of you when I come to town maybe a girls lunch at my lovely hotel on the beach would be fun.....seee you in March.V
I had an "experience" several years ago where I set up an appointment, confirmed the day of, drove all the way down to IB. When I knocked on the door, the provider was not ready and didn't know why I was there. She had many positive reviews. I asked the boards opinion and the general opinion was to post a review, which I did.
I think if it goes that far, a review should be posted.