Ok, I just had a visit with my 3rd TER 100 girl( for reference this girl does not reside or work in San Diego) and she along with the other 2 had one thing in common. They all asked me not to review them! This last girl like the first did ask me in a appropriate way at the end of our time together and since during the erotic part of our encounters they were at times, well incredible I did not have a problem agreeing to their requests. The second girl coned me early on into not reviewing and then proceeded to give what I would call a very, very disappointing session.
This last girl and the first had other things in common also besides being in the TER 100 and being very welled reviewed. They were both very beautiful,intelligent and sophisticated and from the moment we got together until the time we ended our encounter they both treated me like absolute CRAP! This treatment coming from girls whose reviews not only mention of course how sensual they are but also how pleasant, professional and courteous they are with great smiles and a lot of laughter which none of this did I come close to receiving. It was like everything I said or did was just wrong and each of these girls kept me on edge ( ok I do not mean sexually in this case but that did take place lol) the entire time I was with them. I generally tell most the girls that I visit that I feel very lucky to be able to see them and appreciate their time as that is how I really feel and I always let the girls know my age,HT,weight etc. before meeting so that if there is something about me they do not like well then do not bother seeing me! So it is not a big turn on for me when both of these girls made it clear to me how great they are and that they have been with a lot of famous people including politicians (this I would not brag about right now!) or while in the throws of passion remind me that I am a older,pudgy guy! I mean how would they feel if i said you know you are really beautiful but I was just with a girl half your age and a whole lot hotter or if while banging her from behind I said, WOW, thats one big zit you got on your ass! I never ever try to con a girl into believing that I am the supreme hobbyist or that I am Bradley Coopers Doppelganger so please do not throw it in my face that you are gods gift to the poon world which is a really huge turn off. I know who and what I am and what I am is just another one of the guys looking to have a good time with a beautiful girl who would hopefully appreciate me choosing and taking the time to see her and I believe my donation is worth just as much as those other famous dudes who banged you and possibly more as I like multiple hr appointments so again please show me the same courtesy as you apparently showed to them. I could go on at length about how they acted towards me and the rude things they said but it would probably be nauseating.
Lets just say I have very simplistic views in life I, that in order to get respect you should give it and if kindness is given it should be given back 2 fold etc., etc. I also know the deal with this kind of thing that you win some and you lose some and fortunately for me I have won way more seeing though not in the TER 100 many wonderful women here who have been just great to me as per my reviews and many others who have also reviewed them. In my view they are not only just as good as these TER 100 girls but in these 3 cases a lot better as they not only rocked my world they really made me feel as if they appreciated me.
In the end, am I saying I will never see another Ter 100 girl if given a chance, of course not, as I know so many of you have had so many complete and memorable experiences with them and I just hope that my next encounter would also be the complete package so in the end I am not only left to feel drained but also not like a piece of garbage. In all of the 3 girls I will chalk it up to the fact they suffer from what I will now term " Provider Diva-ism". Have any of you also experienced this term from a TER 100 girl?
...shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
It happened to me once. I tried to reach out to figure out what happened and she never got back - validating my views. I ended up not writing a review though, because I was inexperienced and wasn't sure if it was me somehow and did not want to be the person to write the torpedo review.
Knowing what I know now, I should have written a review that knocked a point or two off her averages, with word choice that while being respectful, would acknowledge what I thought were the short-comings. In addition, I have also learned to be much better at reading reviews, understanding the meaning behind word choice, and back-channeling with additional questions.
If a woman requests not be reviewed prior to a meeting, I will always respect that. During or after we meet is a tougher call. It is unfortunate that more providers do not realize that talking about reviews during the session is just poor form and leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Instead the goal should always be focusing on a great experience... and the reviews will follow.
This is what I think you do:
You get a bad experience, you need to reach out, figure out what happened, and learn from it. The provider won't always respond, but if you can get information from her directly it will help. It sounds like you let the same thing happen 3 times in a row (to varying degrees)... And I still don't think you have any idea why.
I do think YMMV is one of the biggest truisms in the hobby, but my impression is something else is going on here. My guess is either:
1. You didn't do the research. I believe there are girls that are divas and this tends to come across with huge dispersion or the torpedo review - ex: 10/10, 9/10, 7/3, 10/10. The 7/3 caught her on her diva day.
2. You actually aren't portraying yourself accurately. Guys blame girls for this all the time, but you may be just as much at fault. This is where talking to the girls afterwards might help. You may be downplaying the reality of your age, weight, personality, or hygiene. Again, so much of life is about managing expectations and the more you can manage theirs, the better off you will be in finding something that works
It's funny how you mention the 10/10, 9/10, 7/3, 10/10 reviews. I especially like to read the 7/3 reviews to specifically see what that hobbyist found wrong with session. Simple innuendo can tell a lot about a gents experience and why he felt she deserved that kind of review. I recently found out the hard way that a lady with stellar reviews and a few crappy ones will speak volumes as to the lady in question.
Then there is the other thing. When I first started on TER, I was well on my way to being a respected member of this site with established, fair and honest reviews. Then I had a horrible experience with a provider that had nothing less than 8's on 4 plus pages of reviews. I went way to low on my review. She complained and got it pulled since it wasn't on par with the rest of her reviews. I ended up expressing my frustration on the discussion boards and got flamed. Funny thing is she eventually ended up with really crappy reviews but the damage had been done and some of the ladies refused to see me.
I think that if you do have a terrible experience that rather than going from 9's and 10's to 3/4's, that its better to do a 7/3 or something similar.
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The problem is this. If you post an honest review with low scores it gets taken down because the provider complains to admin. furthmore in a discussion thread if you respond to a provider post and she doesn't like it then guess what? It's also taken down. Anyone else see this.
I have provider friends who have received fake reviews and it took an act of Congress to get the review taken down. It isn't something a provider can just tra-la-la to TER Admin about and poof, it's magically gone.
Same thing goes for board posts...if you get into an altercation with someone on the boards, it will be taken down, but providers can't just post and then cherry pick responses and TER admin does their bidding. Now, if she takes her post down, of course all responses to that post will go down as well, but that would be obvious.
If you to think that TER decisions are motivated by capricious providers whims, you are kidding yourself.
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A good rule for reviews is to only say what you would be comfortable telling a provider to their face. You want to be respectful, understand this can be a very difficult business (to be honest, I don't know any guy that could do it), and that it is not fair to torpedo their business/livelihood given the reality of YMMV and other factors that may be at play.
But, at the same time, you do want to be able to provide insight to other hobbyists so they can make the best decision possible.
My personal opinion is there is no reason to go more than 2 points below their average scores unless there is really an extreme situation - such as a scam. If they have a 9 average, and you give them a 7 - that certainly stands out to anyone reading the reviews. You can then get into where the session fell short of your expectations in the details.
I can tell you from personal experience, that the opposite of what you said is true. I got in to it many years ago with a provider. I gave her a shitty review that was honest and she obviously disagreed. She had very good reviews prior to me giving her a low one. It then moved to the discussion board where I got flamed really bad. My review came down and had trouble meeting new ladies for a while. Having to use old providers as references to get any decent provider to see me.The worst part is that after all that her reviews got shittier and shittier to the point she just retired. Maybe things are different now, but it sure as hell wasn't like that way back when.
Same thing goes for board posts...if you get into an altercation with someone on the boards, it will be taken down, but providers can't just post and then cherry pick responses and TER admin does their bidding. Now, if she takes her post down, of course all responses to that post will go down as well, but that would be obvious.
If you to think that TER decisions are motivated by capricious providers whims, you are kidding yourself.
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Maybe in that case. But I know of four providers just myself who had very different scenarios happen. Maybe the one you saw was climbing the old "Elms tree". But I stand by what I said...if you think TER is more on the side of the providers, you are kidding yourself.
I think maybe now, current TER is how you describe it. Im not trying to pick a fight or anything. Just talking from personal experience. If anything I am more careful the way I write reviews, to make sure I dont score too low. I think you or someone else touched on that earlier.
Ha I beg to disagree with you. Way more careful ??? Really ? But regardless of what you say and what or how you review, I still dont know who the heck you are. And if you are so sincere why dont you answer my private emails ? How come I am having to call you out in public just to get a little info from you so I can understand .
And my apologies to the poster. Not meaning to hijack. I just thought maybe he will answer me on here since he has ignored my private messages.
When you say 7/3 to me you mean 7 looks 3 performance ?? Because that isnt being nice either. If you have a crappy time, say it. I have no problem with my crappy reviews. But I do have a problem with your review of me because I dont recall the events you described. ANd when I wrote to you you failed to answer. So , you dont have to do it on here, because I am not trying to start drama, but if you could be so kind as to email me and explain where you saw me ? Because it is unclear if I came to you or you came to me and if you came to me, I am at a lost as to who you are. And I really would like the constructive criticism you have to give. It cant be worse than your mean spirited review of me. So please poohdaddy , let me know so I can try very hard not to do that again.
And as I have said before, many of us gals arent allowed 9s or 10s. So I myself feel I always try to give the best time I can( and my 7 or 8s are top scores for me cuz of things in my profile) and that with all my reviews it should be quite clear that I have a problem with being on time and I talk too much......so enough already about that. I promise to any of those who cant stand to hear me....bring a gag.... and see how well that works for other things of the oral nature.
Then there is the other thing. When I first started on TER, I was well on my way to being a respected member of this site with established, fair and honest reviews. Then I had a horrible experience with a provider that had nothing less than 8's on 4 plus pages of reviews. I went way to low on my review. She complained and got it pulled since it wasn't on par with the rest of her reviews. I ended up expressing my frustration on the discussion boards and got flamed. Funny thing is she eventually ended up with really crappy reviews but the damage had been done and some of the ladies refused to see me.
I think that if you do have a terrible experience that rather than going from 9's and 10's to 3/4's, that its better to do a 7/3 or something similar.
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Don't know what else to say! We do appreciate kind, generous gentlemen, we depend on them!
Not everyone can connect every time, and we are not always on the top of our game but I found your grievances heartfelt and well thought out.
Here's to better times and warmer ladies!
xoC
This last girl and the first had other things in common also besides being in the TER 100 and being very welled reviewed. They were both very beautiful,intelligent and sophisticated and from the moment we got together until the time we ended our encounter they both treated me like absolute CRAP! This treatment coming from girls whose reviews not only mention of course how sensual they are but also how pleasant, professional and courteous they are with great smiles and a lot of laughter which none of this did I come close to receiving. It was like everything I said or did was just wrong and each of these girls kept me on edge ( ok I do not mean sexually in this case but that did take place lol) the entire time I was with them. I generally tell most the girls that I visit that I feel very lucky to be able to see them and appreciate their time as that is how I really feel and I always let the girls know my age,HT,weight etc. before meeting so that if there is something about me they do not like well then do not bother seeing me! So it is not a big turn on for me when both of these girls made it clear to me how great they are and that they have been with a lot of famous people including politicians (this I would not brag about right now!) or while in the throws of passion remind me that I am a older,pudgy guy! I mean how would they feel if i said you know you are really beautiful but I was just with a girl half your age and a whole lot hotter or if while banging her from behind I said, WOW, thats one big zit you got on your ass! I never ever try to con a girl into believing that I am the supreme hobbyist or that I am Bradley Coopers Doppelganger so please do not throw it in my face that you are gods gift to the poon world which is a really huge turn off. I know who and what I am and what I am is just another one of the guys looking to have a good time with a beautiful girl who would hopefully appreciate me choosing and taking the time to see her and I believe my donation is worth just as much as those other famous dudes who banged you and possibly more as I like multiple hr appointments so again please show me the same courtesy as you apparently showed to them. I could go on at length about how they acted towards me and the rude things they said but it would probably be nauseating.
Lets just say I have very simplistic views in life I, that in order to get respect you should give it and if kindness is given it should be given back 2 fold etc., etc. I also know the deal with this kind of thing that you win some and you lose some and fortunately for me I have won way more seeing though not in the TER 100 many wonderful women here who have been just great to me as per my reviews and many others who have also reviewed them. In my view they are not only just as good as these TER 100 girls but in these 3 cases a lot better as they not only rocked my world they really made me feel as if they appreciated me.
In the end, am I saying I will never see another Ter 100 girl if given a chance, of course not, as I know so many of you have had so many complete and memorable experiences with them and I just hope that my next encounter would also be the complete package so in the end I am not only left to feel drained but also not like a piece of garbage. In all of the 3 girls I will chalk it up to the fact they suffer from what I will now term " Provider Diva-ism". Have any of you also experienced this term from a TER 100 girl?
I just read your rant about YMMV on the GD. Honestly, I couldn't get thru this entire post. The YMMV post was enough for me. I did read the first paragraph, and honestly I don't see any provider who has a "no review" policy. Also, I rarely discuss "reviews" during a session.
I just read the last sentence, and yes I've seen top 100 providers, but I usually see them before they have 20 reviews to qualify for top100 . Never, yes never, had an issue with any of them.
Ok, I just had a visit with my 3rd TER 100 girl( for reference this girl does not reside or work in San Diego) and she along with the other 2 had one thing in common. They all asked me not to review them! This last girl like the first did ask me in a appropriate way at the end of our time together and since during the erotic part of our encounters they were at times, well incredible I did not have a problem agreeing to their requests. The second girl coned me early on into not reviewing and then proceeded to give what I would call a very, very disappointing session.
This last girl and the first had other things in common also besides being in the TER 100 and being very welled reviewed. They were both very beautiful,intelligent and sophisticated and from the moment we got together until the time we ended our encounter they both treated me like absolute CRAP! This treatment coming from girls whose reviews not only mention of course how sensual they are but also how pleasant, professional and courteous they are with great smiles and a lot of laughter which none of this did I come close to receiving. It was like everything I said or did was just wrong and each of these girls kept me on edge ( ok I do not mean sexually in this case but that did take place lol) the entire time I was with them. I generally tell most the girls that I visit that I feel very lucky to be able to see them and appreciate their time as that is how I really feel and I always let the girls know my age,HT,weight etc. before meeting so that if there is something about me they do not like well then do not bother seeing me! So it is not a big turn on for me when both of these girls made it clear to me how great they are and that they have been with a lot of famous people including politicians (this I would not brag about right now!) or while in the throws of passion remind me that I am a older,pudgy guy! I mean how would they feel if i said you know you are really beautiful but I was just with a girl half your age and a whole lot hotter or if while banging her from behind I said, WOW, thats one big zit you got on your ass! I never ever try to con a girl into believing that I am the supreme hobbyist or that I am Bradley Coopers Doppelganger so please do not throw it in my face that you are gods gift to the poon world which is a really huge turn off. I know who and what I am and what I am is just another one of the guys looking to have a good time with a beautiful girl who would hopefully appreciate me choosing and taking the time to see her and I believe my donation is worth just as much as those other famous dudes who banged you and possibly more as I like multiple hr appointments so again please show me the same courtesy as you apparently showed to them. I could go on at length about how they acted towards me and the rude things they said but it would probably be nauseating.
Lets just say I have very simplistic views in life I, that in order to get respect you should give it and if kindness is given it should be given back 2 fold etc., etc. I also know the deal with this kind of thing that you win some and you lose some and fortunately for me I have won way more seeing though not in the TER 100 many wonderful women here who have been just great to me as per my reviews and many others who have also reviewed them. In my view they are not only just as good as these TER 100 girls but in these 3 cases a lot better as they not only rocked my world they really made me feel as if they appreciated me.
In the end, am I saying I will never see another Ter 100 girl if given a chance, of course not, as I know so many of you have had so many complete and memorable experiences with them and I just hope that my next encounter would also be the complete package so in the end I am not only left to feel drained but also not like a piece of garbage. In all of the 3 girls I will chalk it up to the fact they suffer from what I will now term " Provider Diva-ism". Have any of you also experienced this term from a TER 100 girl?
I love you baby!
I liked it last March and it's time to add to the list.
You're DATY and she's texting.
The largest item in the bedroom is the wall clock.
She complains that her pussy is sore from screwing and she is out of lube.
The one hour session is over faster than the first quarter of a Charger game.
She's finished her seventh orgasm but hasn't gone south of your waist.
You aren't sure if her boobs or her belly should see the cosmetic surgeon first.
You can identify the Thai restaurant she ate lunch at by her breath.
On parting, you feel figuratively, emotionally, and psychologically screwed.
I think you should write the review. I have found it to be liberating.
So don't get them all fired up by giving her an out of the ordinary 7/2, but come in with a 8/7 or 8/6 when everything else is 9 and 10. Make your point respectfully, remember that YMMV, and send out a warning to your hobbying bros. Isn't that what TER is for?
I miss you and can't wait til I get the chance to devour you all over again!!
Kissez in all the right places,
Chloe
This last girl and the first had other things in common also besides being in the TER 100 and being very welled reviewed. They were both very beautiful,intelligent and sophisticated and from the moment we got together until the time we ended our encounter they both treated me like absolute CRAP! This treatment coming from girls whose reviews not only mention of course how sensual they are but also how pleasant, professional and courteous they are with great smiles and a lot of laughter which none of this did I come close to receiving. It was like everything I said or did was just wrong and each of these girls kept me on edge ( ok I do not mean sexually in this case but that did take place lol) the entire time I was with them. I generally tell most the girls that I visit that I feel very lucky to be able to see them and appreciate their time as that is how I really feel and I always let the girls know my age,HT,weight etc. before meeting so that if there is something about me they do not like well then do not bother seeing me! So it is not a big turn on for me when both of these girls made it clear to me how great they are and that they have been with a lot of famous people including politicians (this I would not brag about right now!) or while in the throws of passion remind me that I am a older,pudgy guy! I mean how would they feel if i said you know you are really beautiful but I was just with a girl half your age and a whole lot hotter or if while banging her from behind I said, WOW, thats one big zit you got on your ass! I never ever try to con a girl into believing that I am the supreme hobbyist or that I am Bradley Coopers Doppelganger so please do not throw it in my face that you are gods gift to the poon world which is a really huge turn off. I know who and what I am and what I am is just another one of the guys looking to have a good time with a beautiful girl who would hopefully appreciate me choosing and taking the time to see her and I believe my donation is worth just as much as those other famous dudes who banged you and possibly more as I like multiple hr appointments so again please show me the same courtesy as you apparently showed to them. I could go on at length about how they acted towards me and the rude things they said but it would probably be nauseating.
Lets just say I have very simplistic views in life I, that in order to get respect you should give it and if kindness is given it should be given back 2 fold etc., etc. I also know the deal with this kind of thing that you win some and you lose some and fortunately for me I have won way more seeing though not in the TER 100 many wonderful women here who have been just great to me as per my reviews and many others who have also reviewed them. In my view they are not only just as good as these TER 100 girls but in these 3 cases a lot better as they not only rocked my world they really made me feel as if they appreciated me.
In the end, am I saying I will never see another Ter 100 girl if given a chance, of course not, as I know so many of you have had so many complete and memorable experiences with them and I just hope that my next encounter would also be the complete package so in the end I am not only left to feel drained but also not like a piece of garbage. In all of the 3 girls I will chalk it up to the fact they suffer from what I will now term " Provider Diva-ism". Have any of you also experienced this term from a TER 100 girl?
on what the reviewed wants. In fact, the reviewer should be anonymous. Does a food critic announce he's doing a review, the results are biased. A provider doesn't want a review, because it won't help her.
That's not what reviews are for. They are to communicate different experiences, not average experience. We're not all the same. She has a bad day, let's know about it, we have her record to see that.
We need honest reviews, no need to slam the lady but be honest, sometime two people just don't click but if she is being rude to you we need to know. Some ladies fail to realize they need work on their customer service skills, us guys pay good money for enjoyment. We don't own the lady because we give her money, just like we don't own the restaurant we eat at but is still fair to expect good customer service regardless.
Or top 100 locally?
What in the world is a DIVA provider and why would someone have a DIVA day and how does being a DIVA earn worse reviews? Maybe I don't understand the definition of DIVA's.
She was a TER Top 100 nationally rated provider as were the other 2 before her. What I mean by Diva in their cases is that their attitudes were all like I am so great and so highly rated that you are lucky to see me and not really worth my time. This last girl I saw really just thru it in my face at one point in a very aggressive manner. In fact I did feel lucky to be able to spend time with them and did mention that to each of them early in our time together as they are such highly rated and reviewed girls, but then to make me feel as if I am second rate by their comments to me I think shows no class or professionalism. There is a big difference between someone having a good amount of ego and confidence about ones self which I actually get turned on by and someone being conceited and just plain rude.
So if a provider thinks that they are better than others in general just because of a ranking or number thrown at them by others and feels that it gives them liberty to put down another then I would call them a "Provider DIVA". So that you other providers know these same girls also made it very clear to me that they think they are better than all of you in more ways than one which I also did not appreciate hearing and was a real turn off!
This has also happened with providers that weren't on the top 100. If they're top 100 and acting "diva", I can almost guarantee you they were like that before they made the list. Some people are just dicks
After reading all these posts I cant stop laughing my ass off bc theres a couple providers who ask guys to give them Only A 10-10 or don't post it all. Or get upset bc someone gave them a 8-this individual told them not to write the review if it was an 810 lol
so pathetic!
If you see someones reviews with Only 10-10 ratings BUT rarely ever gets reviews, I'd be very cautious.
Especially when they post All the time!!
I can understand for those providers who rarely post but when you're around everyday definetly notice the Red Flags..
Its Very easy to offer someone free/discounted appts to be dishonest in a review. I could Never!
It's very wrong and would eat a person like me up inside because I truly like knowing what the guys opinion is so I can try to make better where I lacked..
asking someone to remove a review is wrong in my eyes too bc they are spending their hard earned so they are entitled to their opinion
Write a review when its deserved.
Just my 2.
sorry for everyones bad sessions!! it's only temporary... find someone better who you see gets frequent customers and honest opinions.
Ps: I've had several guys talk about a provider negatively but nobody will put it in a review ..what gives!
You obviously deserved a bad experience in her eyes so she deserves everyone to know how and who she is.
Xo have a Blessed Day Everyone! X
Diamond, you've got such an honest voice. That honesty comes through in bed too. I really appreciate the dedication and attention you gave me.
I'm looking ahead to the next time.
Keep telling it honest and true.
~Jake