Just a couple quick questions to test the waters as it seems to me that the tides have changed in this hobby. Maybe this is a sign that I've just plain old been doing this for too long. However I feel that the days of the true GFE provider connection have gone and more women are now interested in doing multiple single hour business appointments rather than offering a real incentive for multiple hour GFE dates.

I've always felt that multi-hour dates lead to more fun, better connection and ultimately better fireworks. I rarely see posts here for multi-hour incentives either on TER, malls or provider web sites. In fact I have seen many with higher rates for 90, 120 and 180 which seems bass ackwards but that's just me. Maybe being old I just cant compute the new math equations of the new young provider i.e.(60/400, 90/700, 120/850, 180/1300)  If you don't see the problem with those rates than I probably wouldn't want to see you. Why do so few women offer real incentives for multi hour dates anymore? If you do offer them and don't post them on your site or ads than I wouldn't know they're available.  

 Maybe I'm just stuck in a time warp of years past when providers seemed really happy to just spend some quality time with a gentleman and not watching their phones and waiting for the clocks to strike on the hour.

This leads to my next question; I recently had a very highly rated provider whom I've admired for quite some time cancel on me for what was to be a super important personal milestone celebration. Was planning on a very special multi-hour date with dinner and champagne - you know kind of wanted to celebrate the entire time with a really special beautiful woman. After all these years here I thought I had done everything right planning for several weeks prior to be assured the date was on (references, whitelist, email confirmations, restaurant confirmation etc.).

I know others have commented you always need to have a plan "b" for your dates however due to her stellar reputation I did not feel that was at all necessary.  Are there any women left in San Diego that truly enjoy these kinds of multi-hour GFE dates anymore?  Or would you much prefer to have multiple single hour appointments instead? Right now it appears to me from a lot of reviews and ads that 30 & 60 minutes is the new "GFE" standard. Or do I need to change my mindset from wanting the true definition of a real GFE? If that's the case then I seriously need to reconsider my retirement.  

I realize this is a bit of a rant. Please understand that I am bit frustrated at the moment and well I probably just need to see a real GFE.

Ladies all of your candid feedback and comments greatly appreciated.......

I share your pain.... And have experienced the same..  

However there are wonderful ladies still out there, In fact if there is one lady I would like to spend the day with that would be Chloe Wilde. She has always been a sweet lady who knows how to make fire works

I prefer all day play fun, sun, eat & drink, pool, play, etc...

Every man is different, just as your needs vary, so I run specials & have a new page on my site dedicated to deals, but you have to read, and refer to my website for details.  I just took new photos by my twins pool & spa today we are bringing back TNT (Tuesday & Thursday) Twin VIP Duo Deals!

I guess I need to market better, and I am open for suggestions.  We were waiting for new photos to show the private pool & playhouse..

I prefer longer engagements and have no problem turning down half hour dates. In the beginning which is like a two month time frame because I am brand spanking new I would book half hour dates but here's the dilemma 30 minutes is just that 30 minutes. There is not much of a date or a connection that can be done in that time. The last thing I want to do is be a clock watcher or have to tell a client times up so I recently just decided to save my self the hassle and no longer offer those short sessions. I had my first two hour session last month which was amazing. I actually got to really know the gentleman with 30 minutes it just is unreal. Plus to me a 30 minute date is a silly after you have spent more time traveling than the actual date. To me GFE is a genuine date experience not just limited to kiss in mouth/bbbj which seems to be the standard today. I have recently simplified my rates (2hr/600 4hr/1000) just to attract more clients that have a genuine interest in Jayla and not just looking for a quick rendezvous.

But again each provider is an individual so different strokes for different folks. But as for me I would rather see few than many. When your doing such sort dates I hate to say but the quality of the session drops and I speak for myself. The thing is you cant fully enjoy the session because again time is limited.

Yazoo, Never adjust what you like or conform because you feel like there is nothing that suits you. Always stand firm and be patient and in time you will find what you seek. At times its easier said than done but I hope my personal commentary was helpful.

PS I also offer 60/400 (which I only offer when its inquired) which usually detours clients from booking a 1 hour date

I usually schedule a 90 or 120 minute meeting the first time seeing a lady, to make sure we're compatible before pursuing a dinner date or longer appt. I broke this rule twice here in SD the last few years. One time it worked out, one time it didn't. Both highly reviewed, local escorts, 4 hour dinner dates.  

MfSD>>>>

Hello,
I completely agree with you. I think more time = more passion.  I would much rather have the genuine feel of a GFE date. I recently put my personal website together, and heavily discounted multi-hour dates because I am encouraging more time, for more pleasure.  I am visiting next week. (hint hint) Good luck with your search.

Agreed. But it wasn't clear from the original post why she cancelled. I have no idea how many longer dates you ladies book, but I would think most of you would prefer them. Nothing like a great meal and some intense eye contact and banter across the table before some tasty "dessert". Not to mention a larger donation for you.

MfSD>>>>

First off a big thanks to all of you whom took the time to reply. Sample appreciate the ref for Chloe and MFSD I guess great minds think alike. To the sisters thank you for your insight and the TNT offer. Jayla appreciate your kind words and support you are a sweetheart. Olivia you obviously "get it" and understand where I'm coming from - have a great trip here.

This hobby can be very fun and satisfying at its best however as this board will point out even the best of us can be left frustrated and wondering what just happened and why?  With cancelled appts, no shows, flakes and bait and switches there are still many obstacles that we have to overcome for the ideal experience even to begin to occur.  

As mentioned in my OP I don't like to double book as others often do, I especially wouldn't do this with well reviewed ladies as was the case here. Inevitably one of the ladies gets screwed out of an appt and I don't like cancelling on someone I really want to see.

Also should be noted much is made of the ladies valuable time booking and scheduling appts which I know is very valid but I think the time aspects for men have been overlooked as well. The O.P. appt I made after months and months of research, referrals from other clients and an overall feeling after reading reviews and our prior contact that she and I would be a good "fit" for an excellent celebration. Hence the extra time spent in pre-booking and making sure all of the (i's) were dotted before the big day.

Now having nearly 300 reads and so little response I am left to believe the majority of ladies are content with having 30 or 60 minute appts and not interested in real GFE as my post pointed out. I guess the sad truth is in reality for 99% of the ladies this is just a business and nothing more. And some of us guys looking for that true GFE experience are virtually looking for a Unicorn with pink lipstick, a LBD and some FMP's.

I was hoping to get some more responses from other top SD ladies, Arden, Carly, Cameron, Frenchie, Eva etc to get their take. Just curious about that or maybe they are not interested either and well a date is a date whatever he or she choose. That's okay though no one can twist their arms if they don't want to participate here.

Lastly one very important point about true GFE is that one of the most valuable signs of a true GFE for us reviewers is if a client cant stay away and goes back time and time again. Occasionally I will come across a review where the reviewer states he has seen this lady 10 or more times over the last year and this is his first review.  

Unfortunately as you know there is no system in place for guys to review a lady more than once. So there is no way for us to see who guys are going back to for multiple repeat visits to indicate this. I think repeat visits should be reviewable and rewarded by TER with a smaller prorated membership credit.  

What do you think about this idea

I like your idea of a prorated VIP (say 5 days) for a repeat review. Not sure how TER would view this. But I'm still not any closer to understanding why this particular lady cancelled on you? You seem to be suggesting in both your posts, that some ladies just don't prefer these longer dates/GFE/making a connection. Depends on the lady I guess. I've read disclaimers on some providers websites (including one of the ladies you mentioned in paragraph 6) that state clearly longer "date" requests get priority.

MfSD>>>>

Thank you MFSD, I wish I knew the proper way to submit a formal request to TER for my idea. I do believe it would be very beneficial to all of us to have this additional information available.

Yes, I'm sorry about that however I have no interest in getting into a he said she said on here. I much prefer to take the high road as there is already too much negativity being brought to this board. And truth be told I still have a high level of respect for the lady. Sad for me it did not come to fruition.

My point is two fold. One that longer dates are rarely promoted - many dont even mention anything longer than 1hr in ads and websites. Two - if they do there are no real incentives to do so. If they understood my point about true GFE they would get the benefits for both of offering more guys a reason to book extended dates.

There were two amazing ladies on another local asp website years ago. They were great individually but also offered duo specials that were so good no one in there right mind could say no. On top of that they offered you a gold coin with each visit as a token of their appreciation. The gold coin was worth $50 off your next visit or you could save them up for a free visit with either one or both ladies.  

It was fun, creative and made me feel like they valued our time and wanted to see me again and again. Damn I miss them. So I just wish more ladies would think outside of the box instead of 30 / 60 take it or leave it.

Smart, not airing dirty laundry or salacious details. The hobby is morphing to some extent I suppose. Back page quickies with un reviewed cuties (or maybe not so cute) is becoming a trend (it's the first place the cops go to try and snare ladies and clients). Bottom line, even a lengthy amount of DD, back channel and the like, can still lead to disappointment. But I still have faith that there are quality ladies out there who provide longer dates and quality GFE.  

MfSD>>>>

(Or maybe not so cute) is becoming a trend."  
Pretty much sums up this entire thread. With the  recent TER change in review rules it seems there is an overwhelmingly high ratio of reviews from BP and other low end sources which skews this even more to be about non GFE type experiences.  

"But I still have faith that there are quality ladies out there who provide longer dates and quality GFE."
I agree they're out there somewhere though rare and very endangered like the albino pelted trout!. I was hoping this thread would help to give those interested in addition to the four who posted replies to interact here so we could have an open dialog and see who they are.  

In regards to my OP I found a well reviewed lady yesterday offering -$200 off the 3rd hour and +$400 for the fourth. That is not my typo the third hour rate is discounted to $300 and the fourth hour rate is $700 as posted on her site. I rest my case.