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arjis mapping online... arrests only.. not very user friendly, but...
elegantelise 2960 reads
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Here's SOMETHING that you don't have to leave home to find out about.  I don't have any idea what the delay in getting the little dots onto the map is, and I only spent about five minutes playing around with the different methods of culling out the arrests, but it's a start.

I suppose if you wanted to put in the address of the hotel where a recent sting was supposedly run you might find a conglomeration of little red squares (representing prostitution ~647B arrests)  

Again, I think only the PRIMARY crime listed on the face sheet would be entered in an arjis system, meaning, if a sting was run, and the arrestee had, say a bag of meth on them, the felony drug possession arrest would be listed, NOT the secondary charge of misdemeanor solicitation,.... I'm GUESSING...

Happy Playing with statistics!

Elise [email protected]

be anonymous, and you could tell 'your' story about the hobby and be able to communicate your opinions etc.; or to participate in an interview, who would you pick to be the Interviewer/Spokesperson in whatever media - for both

a) locally, in San Diego
b) nationally

Someone that you would choose because you feel they would give fair journalism, have integrity, be open to new ideas, easy to communicate with, etc, etc.

I would love to be interviewed by Jenna Jaimeson. I cut my teeth back in the mid-70's with the girls down in TJ and moved up to street girls in Chula Vista in the late 70's(those were the days!).

Before the WWW, I used the good old BBS system. Blue Pond and others before that. With our proxmity to TJ, it is perplexing why San Diego is so purtian. Just up the road, SF is an open town, sexually speaking.

Your intelligence and common sense makes you a perfect spokesperson for these issues. However, I don't think the news media is looking for anything other than sensationalism with these "exposes". So no matter how "mainstream" or harmless someone portrayed this activity, the media would skew and spin any information to fit their own agenda. Unless it was PBS or something similar doing a documentary, I don't think the local media, or LE for that matter, will let the facts get in the way of a sensationalized story.

Isn't that the truth? And I was so disappointed watching last week's Monday night Channel6 expose, in which they did that very thing.

So, my 'part' and 'promise' was to help come up with other ideas. Maybe someone knows a very good writer, however small potatoes (could be the Reader); or however large (could be somebody's cousin who writes for NY or LA Times).

Thanks for the vote, Gordo, but I was thinking along the lines of Barbara Walters or Oprah! LOL!

Robert Scheer, LA Times.

supergirl3512 reads

Unfortunately all of these expose' pieces on the industry here  are the same.  The one local angle I think that might have some potential is the matter of wasted resources. I can only remember one news report in the last 13+ years that was critical of Vice in regards to the adult industry and that was when an audit was done that revealed the enormous amount of money wasted at the Body Shoppe strip club in order to write a mere $2500 +/- of tickets to the clubs entertainers. Enough money had been spent on vice detail there to have purchased the new vehicles badly needed by the SDPD.

Thats was many years ago and the lack of reporting about where Vice is spending the city's money is indicative of the fact that there isn't a journalist in this town who has the ability or the talent to see that there is a far larger story here than "the growing world of cyber prostitution"

Given the current situation with the city council members and Cheetahs and the OBVIOUS favoritism that has been shown to them over the years, not by the city council but by the Vice Dept whose job it is to regulate them, I see potential for a news worthy story. Perhaps one of the journalists covering the City Council's corruption case or some other journalist that is known for actually checking facts when doing an "investigative" piece whould be a good person for the job. Are there any that don't suck working in San Diego?

The numbers stated by Fox news of "over a hundred" escorts and the same number of clients being arrested over the last year was  a fabricated piece of propaganda meant to mislead the viewer into thinking that their time had been spent effectively. Arrests of course do not equal convictions and those numbers are never mentioned at all.

I want to know, as I am sure many other taxpayers do, how much of their arrests result in anybody being convicted of anything at all? How many of those arrests end up as nothing more than a disturbing the peace? How many of those arrested had a clean criminal record prior to this? I also want to know what exactly the charges were, originally and what they were actually able to make stick. Simply put I think the public deserves to know the actual track record of the vice department and how much money they spend writing these tickets. So far no news agency has even attempted to make these stats known.

I want it to be known that I don't view the industry as a whole as being a victimless crime because I have seen first hand how women can be horribly exploited by those who use them without regards to their safety. That however IS NOT the local Vice departments focus when they seek to write tickets to those of us who market ourselves online.  

They go after us independents because we are easy prey and can be used in news casts as a flashy means of self promotion to justify all the money they have wasted. As long as they can make it appear as if they are doing something about the very REAL and horrible things that can occur within the worlds oldest profession then the taxpayers will think they are earning their keep.

I don't mean to go off on a rant but there is obviously a HUGE difference between an independent free willed adult female who uses the internet to market herself to another consenting adult who seeks out her services in a private location, and a predatory pimp or criminal organization with the negative elements that come with them, that use the same medium. The huge insult is that the media and SDPD Vice tries to portray them as being one and the same.
The intentional deception of their audience by choosing to word their report in such a way made to make that appear to be the case, makes it obvious that this report, just like all of the others, was nothing more than Ms. Aziz and her station being the Vice dept's best bitches and selling out their integrity as journalists.

I might be (insert your word of choice here) but at least, unlike Nacy Aziz, I am not a fucking sellout and I am not getting Pimped by my employers into prostituting my integrity.
Nancy...and I say this in the absolute worse sense of the word,
YOU ARE A WHORE.

One day maybe a real Journalist will look deeper into the industry and tell the real story about what goes on in this city's Vice Dept....but I won't hold my breath.

elegantelise4482 reads

courthouse records aren't the easiest to navigate, nor are arrest records, but that's what the clerks are for.  This is all a matter of public record, and if you start at square one, the best guise to use is that you're writing a paper on the subject for a class.

There are so many different local jurisdictions that it could be super time consuming, which is probably why journalists don't bother.  Remember, too, arresting officers just check off boxes and write a narrative, only the  boxes that get check marks are the ones that get "entered" into a system of numbers... those are easy to make entry errors while inputting.  The court outcomes are a bit more likely to be correct, however they are much delayed.

County records often charges for these types of searches unless you can convince them of a reason that you deserve a waiver.  I had a chance once to actually go in and do a project on property loss and they let me thumb through crime cases while I was there.  It was VERY fun reading all of the narratives.

You just need to have your parameters set in advance and be very clear about what you want to know at the beginning, learning the exact penal codes you are wanting to research and the conviction rates, then often a crime analysis unit will be able to help you for free if the search is not going to take them a ton of computer time.  Doesn't mean it's 100% valid, but it may get you a bit closer to what you'd like to know.

It's your right, and the smiling and sugary sweet attitude is the one that is best served by the civil servant.

Good luck.

Elise, [email protected]

2sense3552 reads

OK, I'll play -- Bill Safire, NYTimes

My 'part, and promise' to someone, was to just gather other people's suggestions, and come up with other ideas on who to contact to suggest an interest in portraying the truth about the hobby, and show the wrongful portrayal the media seems to insist on.

What this person does with the suggestions, I don't know.

If it were up to me, I'd simply write about 30 pages to Oprah, and send the same to those who have been suggested. But, then, what would I put for a 'return contact info'? Haven't gotten that far yet.
I'll take anyone's suggestions...

would anyone trust the guys (or gal) from 60 minutes? i always thought that if i ever did something so senational  that i would trust them to get to all of the facts, good and bad. but then see what happened when they got involved with the tobacco industry...

elegantelise2961 reads

Here's SOMETHING that you don't have to leave home to find out about.  I don't have any idea what the delay in getting the little dots onto the map is, and I only spent about five minutes playing around with the different methods of culling out the arrests, but it's a start.

I suppose if you wanted to put in the address of the hotel where a recent sting was supposedly run you might find a conglomeration of little red squares (representing prostitution ~647B arrests)  

Again, I think only the PRIMARY crime listed on the face sheet would be entered in an arjis system, meaning, if a sting was run, and the arrestee had, say a bag of meth on them, the felony drug possession arrest would be listed, NOT the secondary charge of misdemeanor solicitation,.... I'm GUESSING...

Happy Playing with statistics!

Elise [email protected]

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