1. You become their ATF
2. Multiple long engagements
3. You get nervous when the last thing they searched on their google search engine is "I'm in love with an escort" & obsessive disdorder.
4. They have that "crazy" look in their eye and when you are in mish, it becomes eerie the way they stare.
5. Too many cocktails, too much time spent together... People on both ends say things that may not mean.
6. Sobriety sets in, they get angry because you tell them you will not see them for free.
7. They PM your clients, write shitty things about you. You find out they used to read your emails while you were sleeping and hacked into your phone and installed a location tracker.
8. They hound others for info, pretending to be their best friend. They will do almost anything and they are very, very good at lying.
9. They call your family.

What the fuck would you do??????????? Retire, retaliate, or both? And yes, I am posting with an Alias. There is just no way in the world that I am first person to go through this"....."......

So ANGRY!

try an office job??

HAHAHAHA
But.....fucking your boss gets you fired...

I am just too much of a nympho to settle for that.

Take the drama elsewhere.  First off this doesn't even belong on this board - it should be on the general discussion board and second, unless people just joined we know who you are because you just posted this crap under your real name on 2 boards about 3 weeks ago.  Do yourself a favor and retire - but do it for real this time and don't come back under yet another name.  Just my .02

AngryBoss

The behavior you describe has all the classic signs of anti-social or even psychopathic behavior. In that instance I would advise you to steer clear of this individual as best you can. There is no reason to retire - why sacrifice your own financial well being because of the actions of another. But I would also caution not to retaliate. The last thing you would want to do is put this individual in a position where he had nothing left to lose.

Your clients will return, your family will forgive, and if you ignore this individual he will move on. These types feed on reaction and stimulus - deny him that and he'll focus his attention on some other unfortunate soul.

Please forgive me for this but I'm genuinely curious about several things you said in this post that don't make sense to me....

1. How would you know he/she did a google search on "I'm in love with an escort & obsessive disorder"?? And on who's or what device did you see this google search? If YOU looked on their phone/device/etc it kind of makes you sound like you have other motives?.... and who said this google search was on you? guilty conscience,... maybe?

2. How do you know they PMed your clients? Who showed you the PMs? Why would they show you the PMs?

3. How would you know they read your emails while you were sleeping? if you were sleep.....And how would someone else knew they read your emails while you were sleep with this person [unless they were in the room with you...ew weird...]

4. How would you know they installed a "location tracker" on your phone?? I thought the whole point of a "location tracker" was to be anonymous on someone else's information? How would you know that you had a location tracker on your device unless someone showed you??

5. How do you know they called your family? Better yet HOW did they get your family's number??

From one provider to another honey, these are some serious things I would think about in your position [if you wanted to venture this subject further] if not I would just move on and go make your money! There's plenty of silver dollar fish in the sea!! :]

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I reevaluated my clients and the kind of clients I wanted in the future. Honestly this sounds like a "bitter bitch" moment.....maybe this is a call for a "eat pray love" moment and take some time off for yourself and venture to some other outlets?

Im not saying you have to quit the biz or even fully walk away but you might want to pull back and take some time for yourself chica...

Going after the person in question is nothing but bad business for you, going to make you look bad, and honestly a complete waste and drain of your energy... What would be the point of retaliation? To put yourself on their level of disgust?

That wouldn't make you any better a person...

All in all I would say "do you boo" go off and do yourself and stay away from the drama.

...but the thing is NONE OF US [client or provider] wants pimps.  Now, maybe you can hire ["rent-a-pimp" ?] or find a friend to scare the living sh*t out of this dude.  I believe that's how they handled it in the old days.

To everyone on this board that is tired of seeing these disgruntled posts and have taken the time to read this thread; thanks.  I am done venting and moving on and I hope that the mystery hobbyist reads this. I will answer the questions above to begin with, good ones I get to vent more:

Great Questions

1. Google: I was laying bed with the client and he asked me to look up something on his Ipad.  When you type in the google search bar it will also give you a list of other previous searches.  That being said, you can have multiple windows open at once and those seaches were open.  This was our 5th or 6th overnight and I was very nervous then; should have ended all contact.  I knew it was about me because of the way he professed his feelings for me and I also knew because he claimed he wasn't seeing anyone but me.  That could have been a lie but it sure did make sense that it could have been me.  And even if it was not myself, the fact he felt that way about any of us is freaky.

2. PM'ing and Emailing clients:  I have copies of the PM's and emails. ANSWER your question? THey showed me because most of my clients are repeat customers, 98% retention rate; maybe we run a different type of business.  I am a companion, we have intelligent conversations; that's is what they like about me.  However, maybe with this one I should have put a piece of tape over my mouth. lol

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3.  Emails: Two reasons, a client of mine was told that he boasted about reading my emails and writing down all of my clients information. Another reason, he deleted most of our conversations over the past 4 months which I would have never done. And there is a third, he told others things that he would only know if he hacked into my email.

4. Location Tracker:  He joked about it one evening; used to stalk his ex girlfriend and admitted it.  Read her emails and tracked her, red flag.  So, when everything hit the fan I took in the Ipad he bought me and my phone and had them checked. "Where's my droid" was programmed into the cell and luckily nothing on the IPad.

5. Family: Well, last time I checked my Father did not think I was a hooker and we talked almost everyday, now he will not answer my calls. (that was a stupid question by the way) I know it was him because there is NO one else in my life that would want revenge on me that bad.  Now, trhis part is the silly part; he knew my personal info several reasons that I will not post on this board.  Lets just say, google and certain information you can find out anything you want about a person.  When I screen I pretty much know everything so if someone had EVERYTHING about you, think about it??  Yes, it was stupid to give that info up but I was very new to this business and it was a lot of money.  What would you do for 20k a month?  Only see one person and make 40k in 8 weeks. Come on!  I learned my lesson that is for sure, money is NOT everything.

Thank you for your opinions and responses, I was super pissed off when I wrote that post.  It angers me that I look like the bad guy and he is excused for his actions. I have said my peace and I do feel better venting even if I wrote like a 5 year in previous posts. Whatever, the worst he could do now is take my life away and he has already messed up my business and family; nothing left to loose.  Perhaps he should be the worried one, an angry woman with nothing left to loose?  

To that hobbyist:

I wish for you to sit and feel the pain I have felt over the past 4 days, sit alone feeling empty inside.  You know this kind of depression way better than me, how is crying on the shower floor?  Such a big strong man, must be so difficult to portray that image when you are just a wimpy little boy inside.  I hope you learn something from this and I pray you never try to hurt anyone else.  But just because you play in someone's sandbox doesn't mean you get to play with their toys.

This is your last chance to leave me alone, please be intelligent enough to know I am serious.

There are plenty of great bookers/marketing companies who can take this kind of stress out of the way for you...One that I use

Exec-Lux.com

Check them out they are really good at what they do and charge a very small fee for their services!

Hope you are having a better week and don't let the stupid shit of this job sweat you!

Girl go out and see the world and take some time away from this board or any area that will only bring you down more...

I don't think anyone on this board thinks your a "bad guy" but will agree that you are very upset, that you are new to this, probably not in a good positive state to provide at your fullest, we all make mistakes, and that you should stay focused at the bigger picture or goal you want to achieve...

I hope this blows over for you and you use your pride not in vain or to get back at someone but to become a stronger, better, more wise provider....

Just so you know..I used to be in your shoes 12 years ago when I first started in this business and 9 years ago when the same situation happened to me [and assume you are younger then I am but again from one more older provider to another] ---> just go do your own thing and pursue your real goals. Your father will come back around and clients come and go like leaves on a tree...

And as for the client SHAME ON YOU! and let this be a warning to ALL CLIENTS. This profession we providers chose to do is a BUSINESS not a RELATIONSHIP! It is just as much YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to say NO and know when "enough is enough" as it is ours...we are not perfect business women by no means and there for should not be burned to the torch for making mistakes!

Has this client contacted you anymore? bothered you anymore? maybe you should look at the people who are telling/showing/composing all of this in front of you and not the persons who is being targeted [you and the client] I'm sure if you eliminate the background noise you will see something different..............but who am I right?

I just hope and pray that things turn around for you.

Oh and whatever you do please DO NOT GIVE YOUR REAL INFO TO ANYONE IN THIS BUSINESS AGAIN!

No go clean ya self up, put your sexiest black dress on and go out tonight!

Everyone on this board will have selfish motives to keep you providing obviously, clients, agencies.
The thought of retiring as a "provider" is what I would call a glimmer of light from you not someone else. Its something inside you that really does want more out of yourself. Your own self image of what could have been is fading now, that glimmer of light is your soul wanting to grow and be more. So many paths through life would be respected between you and your father. Your family's relationship is worth more than all the clients in the world at any hourly rate.
You should make of yourself everything you ever dreamed of, everything you really ever wanted to be and be proud of it standing tall speaking openly with your family and friends as they gaze back at you in admiration and interest or wanting to invest in you or helping you climb the mountain your climbing whatever that may be. Being proud of what you do and have done with your life and what you have accomplished or what you put back into the community around you. Its a life transition for you to grow, paths can change.
Your situation sounds very complicated and personal and not something riffraff peanut gallery comments and questions can or would understand or solve. My two cents whoever you are -is if there is any reason at all for you to change your lifestyle to keep face with your family. Don't be spoild and focus on family. Money is paper. Did you not expect to play with fire and not get burned? Nothing in life is that easy and should be expected in your chosen path as a likely or at least possible end result.
Hiv can be a serious end result of adult industry paths you travel among others, as well as physical battery and worse.

There is no reason you cannot be successful in anything you choose to do.

Your post is WHAT takes all the FUN out of hobbying.  We as "Hobbyists" try to ESCAPE our lives and have fun and enjoy the company of providers but BOY-O-BOY...  This makes my life with wifey and 3 screaming kids not so bad.  Having to figure out college tuition - better than listening to this stuff every other week.  You could be the "Poster Girl" for getting guys to quit the hobby.  This type of discussion occuring regularly on this board is really a downer to me and many others I am sure.  Just retire - but as another poster said - do it for real and SAVE US ALL THE HASSLE.

Why do we have people on both ends that make this business dirty? Leave it at what it is......

I think it is appropos that the person beginning this thread is also the one responding toward its' end.  Hi Cameron!

Because you sure seem to be right up Cameron's ass man...lay off and get a freaking life!

By the way this is coming from another provider....

Its guys like you that I cant stand in this business...you get ass hurt and vengeful because you didn't get something your way...go find another provider in the sea and MOVE ON!!!

It's not "apropos", it's impossible.  One cannot post twice in the same thread using different names.

I think you owe Cameron an apology.

Matt

This is real simple to me. First of all, any guy, I mean any guy is an idiot for falling for a provider. I mean I have had ATF's a few times but i would never be that weak to fall in love with a woman that does this for a living.  Second, no matter how close I have become I don't give her a second thought once I walk out the door. It's happened a lot of times where the line is crossed, a girl will ask for a loan and not pay it back, the guy will ask for freebie's and get mad when he doesn't get it. This is foremost a business and you would be a fool to think otherwise. As far as the gent doing all of this, it is extremely inappropriate and not right.

Angry Boss i would suggest you just start all over. I've seen it a hundred times. I've seen girls with horrible reviews take a break comeback with a different name, number and up doing OK. Also if you need some help you can always PM me and I would be happy to offer my assistance. I have several references from ladies I have helped through several situations very similar to yours over the years.