This has got to be a problem that many guys and pproviders have dealth with.  I've had trouble seeing some of SD's finest providers because I'm working for myself - after working too many years at the "salt mines".  Doing custom work out of my home, with my cell # as my work #, there's no employer for the women to verify that I am legitimate/not LE.  A provider suggested, and I tried, arranging for one TER-reviewed provider that I have seen to provide a phone reference for another.  Its awkward and doesn't work well, for several reasons.

Any suggestions?

I am sure you are familiar with the climate here in San Diego.  Our local LE wants to make sure healthy heteros pay their dues for being adults.

If you are single, and can allow a lady to come to your home, and you have been there for awhile and can show documentation to that effect, employment can be overlooked.  Do you have a business license that can be looked up?  Do you have a website?

I accept references from 3 ladies here in San Diego, but only because we are friends and really trust each other and we must be sure when we do that we are speaking of someone that is really remembered.  

It really is tough here, I see very few local guys in San Diego, because it just adds the chance to meet a local cop.  

... have some life experience, and intelligence to boot and are not afraid to uses any or all of the above when determining a new client's credibility.  It's been my experience that the self-employed, the entrepreneurs who have broken out of the mold, are among the best clients I have encountered. There will always be people with closed minds in all walks of life... why would this business be any different?


buscador: I will PM you with information

I wish there was a way to identify myself here without being flamed by less open minded escorts, as well as being made a target for LE, but I don't think that avenue exists.  But I do want to let self-employed and retired hobbyists know that life experience, intuition and thoughtful, creative consideration are among the skills I put to use when determining the validity of new clients.  

Self-employed and retired gentlemen, please post below if you would like me to PM you and assist you by making too tough screening criteria a thing of the past.

I'm sure nobody would have flamed you for being concerned about being singled out by LE for working with men who may be hard to verify.  However, creating two separate aliases to make a back-handed catty swipe at Jenni might have caught you some flames.  Maybe it would have been better to just say that you can't reveal yourself because of LE fears but you would be willing to work with the person who started this thread if he left a method of contact?  Jenni did provide the gentleman with options that would allow her to see him without disparaging him or others on this board.

Some of the other ladies and gentlemen who read this board are inuitive and thoughtful with a lot of life experience as well.  For what it's worth, many times we can look at a style of writing and tell who is behind an alias.

Well, did your intuition even help you consider that this thread could even be the intention of LE, or worse, a predator trying to figure out how to get together with someone without any validation?  So that they can wrap his hands around your neck and squeeze?  I am not saying this is the case on this thread, but it could be.

I think it is quite public that I am not intimidated nor afraid of Law Enforcement.

I am more concerned with my bodily safety and that of other ladies.  I do not insult or try to put down other women in this forum to drum up business.  I have earned a reputation for my friendliness towards ladies in this arena, and you would be wise to do the same.  It is the extensions of the women in this community that have helped teach me to be safe, and considerate....

Thank you Mike1010, you are a gentleman who has also taught me well......  

Posting as MIKE1010 is enough of an alias that it prevents someone who doesn't like your opinion from turning you in to LE, starting rumours that you are LE, that you just got busted and are working with LE, you have an STD.  5 months of escorting in San Diego reading this board is a real education and all of the above happen to escorts who have much of anthing to say that's not the majority opinion.

Let us know how to contact you your website, where you work, and I'll post who I am.

It's refreshing to see that you have a different set of screening criteria that fits the self-employed and entreprenuers(sp).  Also - Buscador - in my experience (and from what I have read on these boards and been told via back-channel) - the escorts with the strictest screening policies are usually the biggest disappointments.  IMHO I would rather be with someone who isn't so uptight like SE Escort.  I'm sure she is more fun.

I don't really think that anybody really cares what makes you decide who you want to see and who you don't see.  I have seen ladies in SD that screen heavily and those that don't seem to do any screening at all.  In fact, I first saw Jenni at a time when she screened clients based on nothing but gut feel as well.  She learned the hard way that this wasn't the best solution for herself any longer.  

I posted my message because you seemed to be taking an unecessary swipe at Jenni just because she now screens and you created two separate aliases to take your swipe.  We all have to make our own decisions about who we want to see.  There are guys who seem to take offense to ladies who screen.  I see criteria for ladies that I don't like, for example a prepaid deposit, but I don't take offense.  I just decide not to see them.  I have given my personal information to numerous ladies that need this type of information to feel safe about meeting me.  

Sorry to seem that you feel that everybody would be out to get you for not agreeing what others feel is right.  Most of what you spoke of must have happened outside the board because I cannot remember seeing anything as severe as the actions you have mentioned taking place on this board.

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I think you should hook up with visitorsfriend.  

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Mike1010 - Read Jenni's response to my post.  Now do you see why some may want to post under an alias?  Just because I choose to applaud someone for creative screening (and it goes against Jenni's idea of screening), I now have a target on my back.  Seems a little petty to me, but, I have seen it before on this board.

Also, FYI - I don't think someone can respond to the same post under 2 different aliases.  I may be mistaken but ...

...matchmaker. They do simply seem as if they were made for each other.

If Self Employed goes by her gut, Good for her.  Those of us that screen heavily haven't ever had a problem with the ladies that don't screen at all. I've often suggested a gentleman go for a lady that fits whatever criteria he likes.

Self Employed, if you're truly a female, you really don't do yourself any favors by bashing Jenni, alias or not.  She's one of the most generous, helpful, sexy ladies in town, and if you have a problem with her, email her or call her up and deal with it one on one.. I'm sure you'll find that she can handle whatever you have to dish out.

Self Employed... ALL of my dates are my most enjoyable.  Because I've chosen WHO to date, I know exactly who they are, and there is already a basis of trust before I meet them

Now, Obviously, there is a contingent of gentleman that don't like screening.  See the girls that don't screen. Simple.  Lusty Lauri and Greek Elise didn't screen.

Or, take a chance and try one of us that is pretty good at it.  You may find that it's painless and worth the time spent, as we can be totally at ease on a date.

Visitor's Friend.. You supposedly are out of the game, or are you back in? (That was your first statement when you introduced yourself to the board.) You can't seem to get your story straight. Nor can  you get it straight about whether you will allow yourself to be screened.  How else would you have seen the girls that screen heavily? Anyone that doesn't have a near photographic memory can search all of your posts by using the search engine at the bottom.

If you're in the game, go ahead and do some reviews of those girls you don't like so much.  If you're out of the game, then how the heck would you know about any girl at all???????

I know another guy who's alias I won't reveal here.  He was pretty vocal here on the boards, just like you, Visitor's Friend.  Reminds me ALOT of you, VF....

My friend Jenni and I were laughing at the way the guy had come across to us (Yeah, we talk) as he SMELLED like bacon and it wasn't anywhere NEAR breakfast.  I deleted his first email.

Then six months later he's reviewing Lusty Lauri and Greek Elise.

What Jenni and I used is called INSTINCT. We use it first and foremost.  The rest is just routine in order to make sure we're safe.  

So, props to you, Jenni!! You're know I think you're the the bomb.  

And whoever you are self employed... don't forget to file those taxes.  Until you reveal yourself, I'll believe you're some guy with a gripe, or LE just trying to drum up some business from some of the desperate girls, (We know you hate her after she got her charges dropped!)

Anyhow, there really aren't girls around here that hate on Jen.  What a wimp.  You should have used your real name and put up a link and seen how far your gut took you after that!

Elise

All can provide more than enough verification if they are willing and would like to meet me for a date.

Intuition is ALWAYS a first line of defense, but some of us just aren't going to date ~no business mentioned~ a guy that we don't know. That would seem kinda like prostitution,~~calling them clients and all of that Business talk~~  but that's just me.

Hope you have a business license and a good accountant, self employed.

Elise

Just out of curiousity, I wanted to see why Jenni reacted so harshly to you.  I looked at your posting history that goes back to 1/2002 and noticed that in the recent past that you have directed several negative comments toward Jenni.  So it's not a complete wonder to me that she reacted to you as she did initially.  That being said, I know that you are on the good side but have a tendency to express it in a negative way a bit too much based on your history of posting.  Here's a link to a some good advice you did post once
http://theeroticreview.com/msgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=26058&boardID=7&page=

As far as screening goes, it does seem that you were in favor of it in some form when you ran your own web page.  True, it may have been to screen providers but it is still screening.

http://theeroticreview.com/MsgBoard/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=3272&boardID=7&page=

Like I said, I know you mean well but my recent memory was of you attacking Jenni and Elise for some unknown reason.  You do have plenty of posts with helpful information as well.  By the way, I don't even know Elise and have no plans to see her.

You'll end up never being in the room with a bad guy and your words, connected with who you really are, will actually be a prescreener for you. (Guys that don't like your posts will leave you alone!)

Nobody is more vociferous on these boards than am I, and when vice calls or emails I just delete...

You're a target as soon as you get a review, as soon as you have a new advertisement up.  Don't fool yourself into thinking that writing something under your first alias/psuedonym is going to cause you more grief from LE.

Instead, be smart, don't do anything illegal, and ALWAYS know who you are going to be meeting on a date.  

It's really simple for self employed and retired guys to verify who they are.  Jenni and I can vouch for that.

xoxo
Elise

Well, of course Blue, I'm all for love, love, love.....


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You are totally stealth..........

Some of us don't want little insects around us at all.

Thanks for the notice. Especially for Jen...

And the double check on everything he's written.. It's QUITE enlightening.

xoxo
Elise

I have found that the gents that balk and are the most difficult to screen, are the very ones that are rude, show up late, and don't shower long enough. But then again, my memory is sketchy since I haven't had one of those in ages.

For the record, Mr. Visitor's friend,  if someone ever says that it is more important for me to be a fun escort than a safe escort, then you better get ready to enjoy the slime of rotten tomatoes, and whatever else some of us providers have handy who just read your diatribe, or get better at not being a royal pain in the arse of the local ladies in wonderful San Diego. Your intuition should dictate now that at this post nobody likes you but you. Hate to break it to ya, but everyone knows all about your game.

-non local, touring provider

Woman, I've been waiting for your input.  I KNEW it would be very stylish.  You should do your own equivilant of the Shizzolator!  LOL