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LA passes condom ordinance today
The Moose 26 Reviews 3820 reads
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In a revolting display of govt. intrusion, LA passed the condom (pains me to even write that word) ordinance today....

I'm NOT some libertarian who wants no govt. involvement in anything other than defense issues, but I'll channel my inner Ron Paul on this one to say this is govt. over-reach at its worst...Aren't there about 4,500 better ways law enforement in LA can better spend time and resources than showing up on porn sets to check for condoms?....

I'm assuming shoots will be moved elsewhere, but I'll be interested to see how the industry responds...I'm sure Michael Weinstein @AHF is doing his end zone celebration dance now that he got his way...

I will not book condom appts., nor will i watch condom porn, no exceptions...

The fact that we have any elected official or body even bringing something like porn up as a matter to be dealt with shows you how out of touch these people are with the reality of the world and the current conditions in this country.

It isn't even their ordinance that irks me, it's the fact that there are so many matters of importance, or would be to a governmental body that isn't always looking for ways to distract people from what is really important, that there is little to nothing being done to fix and all the while they want to consider measures that have to do with regulating porn.

Federal, State and local government do this crap all the time, if it wasn't porn it would be some other nonsensical issue. I guess the only question is when will people stop thinking that going to vote for another cast of criminals is going to fix the problem.

at the height of the AIDS epidemic.

I haven't followed this and really know nothing more than what Moose has posted but it really seems not only a reach but also gives a message that people have stopped wanting to hear.

Politicians will do just about anything to get votes.  Some things never change.

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The adult industry is going to keep going on like it always does in California. What are the police going to do? Raid each adult studio to see if the performers have a condom on?

The last time the LA City Council felt it was there duty to dictate people's entertainment when when they wanted to ban lap dances.  When that law went into effect, every club collected signatures to overturn the city ordiance.  The city council laughed at there efforts.  When the coalition had more than enough signature to qualify and to overturn the law, the city threw out the law because it would cost too much for a special election.  

I think its time the industry fights back!  Get a referendum going to strike down this law! It might be a hard sell to the general public but if you tack on a 15% pay cut to all city elected officals, you can get the general public involved.  

Weinstein is doing this for his own personal agenda. I am sure he could careless about any talent in the industry.  

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but I heard you just bought a condom company.

Posted By: The Moose
In a revolting display of govt. intrusion, LA passed the condom (pains me to even write that word) ordinance today....

I'm NOT some libertarian who wants no govt. involvement in anything other than defense issues, but I'll channel my inner Ron Paul on this one to say this is govt. over-reach at its worst...Aren't there about 4,500 better ways law enforement in LA can better spend time and resources than showing up on porn sets to check for condoms?....

I'm assuming shoots will be moved elsewhere, but I'll be interested to see how the industry responds...I'm sure Michael Weinstein @AHF is doing his end zone celebration dance now that he got his way...

I will not book condom appts., nor will i watch condom porn, no exceptions...

Leave it to short-sighted blowhards to take money out of their own pockets.  We love the porn industry in Florida and I for one welcome the influx of hotties.  I am starting my kegel exercises in anticipation.

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Ask Kimberly Kupps about the joys of making porn in Florida.  The chances of the porn industry relocating to Miami are between zero and none.  You guys just don't get it.  The mantra of the public-health community for the past 25 years is practice "safe"sex" by wearing condoms.  A public referundum to require porn performers to wear condoms would win overwhelmingly in LA.  In Miami, there wouldn't be a need for a referundum because most of the porn industry would be in jail.  So what is the future:  the porn business will adopt, male performers will wear condoms and the industry will remain in SFV.  And, poor, poor Moose will end up going to a monastery.

Won't all shooting just go to LV? Red Light is already there. Would be the perfect place for it. Shooting will not happen with condoms. That ship has sailed.

"you're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts"..

I would bet a Lexus to a lemon pie that I'm not the only person who hates condoms in porn...And, believe it or not, I'm not the only person who does BBFS (I think those are the correct letters?, I'm not as well versed on the subject as others are)......

If you think I'm the only person who does BBFS, then i welcome you back to planet earth after your vacation on the planet Saturn...I trust the accomdations were wonderful at the Four Seasons Saturn Hotel & Spa, and i hope they had a nice casino...I hope you flew United First on the return trip as that's quite a long haul, over 200 million miles...

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Of course, BBFS is prevalent.  But your the only one that incessantly mentions it and boasts about your preference.  In the immortal words of Abba Eban, you are indeed a lengend Moose - in your own mind.

This ordinance set up a scenario when Porn Companies will re-located in some other states...
Not that easily done...
Historically, at least according to contemporare economic geography, the discipline that study the spatial location of industry, job and sectors, when an agglomeration take deep foot in a specific territorial area, forming a cluster, this cluster produce centripetal forces that make a re-location a too costy move. The porn industry structure, functioning, organization can be compared to the Hollywood motion picture. It produce entertainment content, that is produced locally and distributed globally.
Now a cluster tend to stay where it is located because of path dependent processess. Indeed, almost no one industry has relocated itself in a different place. That happens only when an industry is its at is beginning, like the motion picture industry move from NYC to LA in the early 20th century. Succesful clusters, like the San Fernando based porn industry, generate profit because of its location...and moving out of the San Fernando territory its going to be so costly that many companies are not going to take even the chance.

I do not have time to go into the detail, but you can read an excerpt from a scholar who has spent all his time understanding Hollywood and because the industry stay there regardless of new technologies, regulations, etc.

http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/s7848.html

While the law is stupid and sucks, its barely a speed bump for the adult industry. It only covers the actual city of LA which is a small portion of what many believe to be LA.

They can relocate a short distance and give city the middle finger. Though I am sure the law will go away when city realizes the revenue its losing.

Posted By: The Moose
In a revolting display of govt. intrusion, LA passed the condom (pains me to even write that word) ordinance today....

I'm NOT some libertarian who wants no govt. involvement in anything other than defense issues, but I'll channel my inner Ron Paul on this one to say this is govt. over-reach at its worst...Aren't there about 4,500 better ways law enforement in LA can better spend time and resources than showing up on porn sets to check for condoms?....

I'm assuming shoots will be moved elsewhere, but I'll be interested to see how the industry responds...I'm sure Michael Weinstein @AHF is doing his end zone celebration dance now that he got his way...

I will not book condom appts., nor will i watch condom porn, no exceptions...

According to a recent report CAL/OSHA "California has one of the lowest staffing levels per
capita in the U.S. There are more Fish and Game Wardens than there are Cal/OSHA inspectors (209
vs. 196) (p. 26 of the report). Of this there are 318 Full-Time equivalent and 419 FED-OSHA personell authorized to conduct inspection.
Now in the porn industry there are about 200 companies, with about 6000 working as talent, and several thousands working in the porn workplace (shooting, lighting, etc.).

So even if the entire CAL/OSHA personell converge in the San Fernando Valley they would have a heck of hard time inspecting porn workplaces. But the CAL/OSHA has to cover about 1,335,000 workplaces and 18 million people in the worforce...

Considering that in California "there has been an average of 475 on-the-job deaths per year in the eight years preceding [e.g. 2000-2008] and that "In addition, an estimated 6,500 workers in the state die from chronic exposure to chemical, biological, or physical agents each year...(Executive Summary)..."

At the same time in the last ten years, very few case of HIV have been tested positively in the porn industry...

That this resolution to enforce condom with the assumption of healthy issue as branding flag is a joke does not requires more comments...and the fact that its enforcement its just not going to happen because of the chronic underfunding and understaffing of CAL/OSHA, well, it make you ask:

What in the hell, those folks, are thinking about?
Sincerely,
BM

Phoenix would welcome the porn industry, if only we could vote out  just a few...:)

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