I'm not the most well seasoned in the PS/UTR environment. I've only seen 5 PS's, and no UTR models, playmates, etc.
But from following along the boards, reading people's reviews, mini-reviews, quick thoughts on a session it's my belief that the UTR's are more likely (than a PS) to be not so wild in bed. They're more like hot girls you wanna fuck, but not the wild crazy chicks you see in movies. Sure I'm sure there are more than just a few exceptions and some UTR's fuck the shit outta you.
That's just my general impression from what I've seen/read on the boards over the years.
I like Playboy Playmates, Penthouse Pets, and PSEs, but lately I've been wanting more.
From time to time I'll find a website that says a high-profile UTR, like an A-list model or a well known actress, is available. That got me thinking.
Has anyone ever seen a Victoria's Secret model, a SI swimsuit model, or any other type of famous, mainstream models, actresses, etc?
The consensus is that more than 98% of porn stars provide. What percentage of mainstream models and actresses provide?
I don't have any idea if any supermodel provide,but my question is how much will any of you will to spend?
A super model..Amber (Something) was providing UTR for a while. Dont know if she still does. I saw her in a low budget sci-fi flick and thought she was hot. I mentioned this to a buddy who told me he had seen her, I recall the price was really high for even back then.
Without going in to any specifics about who, how well do they compare to those who are ON THE RADAR?
Example: I dropped some major cash after making a killing on the stock market this week (its a fantasy example). I rang up ???? at ACME escorts and asked who's on the UTR menu at the moment? Cost is no issue today! Wow, you got her on the menu! I'd chop off my boy parts with a rusty steak knife for an evening with her! Her tits were freakin' awesome in that movie she did. Put it on my black American Express card for several hours with Ms. Busty Actress.
Review: Wow! Little Miss should have gone into porn. She could suck start a leafblower, my eyes were just about sucked to the back of my skull. I knew she was sultry, but I never figured her to be this type of nasty. Like she hadn't had sex in a decade. Mouth, pussy, ass - all was available and with reckless abandon, cycling through all of them over and over. She screamed like a banshee with each climax, which seemed limitless, and she was so physically active that she was working up a glorious sweat. She cursed herself for not bringing her sex toys with her so she can get a DP going. After cumming twice already, once in her mouth (swallowed!) and then in her tight pinkness. I had to rest the old hammer and told her it's DATY-time. So I go at it, adding some fingers for some additional stimulation, and she's grabbing my head and pulling my hair...REALLY HARD. If I make her cum, I'm leaving this room bald, and I know that if I get her to climax she gonna be convulsing for a solid hour - so tomorrow I'm gonna go looking for a toupee. After all that, and following a short rest for her, she starts rubbing and fingering her pussy again. I'm barely getting feeling back in my tongue and she's still at horny level 10. She wants some anal, and I don't think I have it in me to rise again. She takes it as a challenge, rolls over and applies the type suction reserved for the likes of Hoover, Eureak and Oreck vacuum cleaners. Bam! I'm as hard as bar of steel. She mounts up goes through every possible position known to man and few not known to man. We were on every conceivable surface of the hotel room. I was sure I was totally dry, but damned if she didn't squeeze that last drop out. She shuddered her final climax for the evening and just collapsed back on top of with my stiffness still in her ass. I don't think I could have possibly gone limp for a while, you'd think I had viagra in my system. She smiled and closed her eyes, falling asleep. I turned out the lights and the night was over... until the morning when I awoke with her appling her oral skills again. It's too bad that she an UTR lady. I can never tell anyone what an absolute nympho ???? is. So if you ever get the chance to spend an obscene amount of money on the particular UTR, DO IT! (10/10)
Alternate example: I got to take her to dinner and listen to her chatter about her work and the biz for almost 2 hours while she gets attention for male onlookers (on my dime), I get to brush her tits with my arm as I help her into the car to take her home... and she's tired. Goodbye stock market windfall! (10/0)
I'm not the most well seasoned in the PS/UTR environment. I've only seen 5 PS's, and no UTR models, playmates, etc.
But from following along the boards, reading people's reviews, mini-reviews, quick thoughts on a session it's my belief that the UTR's are more likely (than a PS) to be not so wild in bed. They're more like hot girls you wanna fuck, but not the wild crazy chicks you see in movies. Sure I'm sure there are more than just a few exceptions and some UTR's fuck the shit outta you.
That's just my general impression from what I've seen/read on the boards over the years.
I had the pleasure of seeing a UTR playboy model - she was absolutely amazing and gave me a mind blowing experience that still haunts me to this day!
I've taken the plunge with two UTR girls who had no reviews, both were pornstars, though one did g/g only. Had a mind-blowing experience with one. Like your first example, it was so good that I've repeated two more times. But I had a mediocre experience with the other one (the g/g only star). So I'd say it's a bit of a crapshoot, but I'd roll the dice again if it was a girl I really had the hots for.
She had no skills. She was flawlessly beautiful, but didn't do GFE. She expected you to apply your own cover and then mount her and pump away until you were finished. Zero interaction. Zero warmth. She was shopping a television series, that she hosted, to a well know action channel, and needed dough to continue promoting the show. Smart and by far the most naturally beautiful woman I've ever been with, but when she laid out all the restrictions: no kissing, no DATY, no BJ of any kind, I sent her packing. She said that other guys just fucked her and she was cool with that, but too much interaction kinda "freaked her out".
So from then on, I've stuck with pros.
>too much interaction kinda "freaked her out".
LOL! Obviously she wasn't meant for this business! Another reason to stick to well-reviewed ladies.
Rob
I was lucky enough to meet Amber Smith when she was an UTR provider, and it really amazed me the girls she could hook me up with. Of course, at rates that made you think twice, but a hell of a lot of people you would not think of were open to it.
And before I get blasted for not providing names, these are UTR girls, so I am not going to out them. I mention Amber because she seems to be trying to make a second career out of her second career, lol.
I would say 0.23% of mainstream models & actresses provide. If they are mainstream they are making a decent amount and are too high profile to be providing. The 98% figure for porn stars seems too high. That's a wishlist figure, not reality.
For a while, I was hooked on FHM, Maxim, Playboy and Penthouse models. I even had a couple Deal/No Deal girls and "B" listers. As long as you understand that you have to go the extra mile to make them comfortable, it can be a great time. You can't dive right into it like you can with your favorite PS or provider, but some of my most rewarding times have been with these girls.
So no half hour rates? Damn.
Rob
Same price for any time up to and including 12 hours. 1/2 certainly falls in there.
98% of porn girls do NOT provide. It's at least 50% and climbing as the economy and the porn biz decline.
I've seen 2 Playmates, 3 Pets, a legit actress and several fitness and figure models. No V.S. types. The best were the fitness and figure gals and the legit actress. All were at least O.K. but the most restrictive were the Playmates. I've also
been to two PP's at in L.A. where some Playmates were working. At the last one there was a Playmate "working". She did plenty of lap-dances but there were very few takers for VIP's - $800 for 1/2 an hour; everything covered; no kissing.
I ended up with an overnight GFE with an aspiring fitness model for half that.
Like SoFla says: treat em right and it pays off. Big Time !
I have to ask the question that shows my true ignorance:
HOW do you get into the loop on UTR girls?
Is it through non-UTR providers? I guess I'm a little too nice, but I hate to say "wow! That was incredible, but do you have any UTR friends that I could see instead of you?"
Is it through agencies?
Money is not the issue with me so much as figuring out how/where to find the girls themselves!
And Mapquest is NO help in showing me the way...
I have seen a couple of Playmates, one Penthouse model and many Special Edition/cybergirls/FHM/Maxim/fitness models. I agree with Soflaguy that you do need to put in the extra effort with these ladies as I've had decent to amazing experiences with some of them. The playboy models definitely were more reserved. It seems like the more fame, the less interested they are in providing a great experience. The fitness and cybergirls were the coolest with my best experience being a fitness model who frequently attends glamour/modeling expos in LA. As for rates, I have found that many of these ladies want to clear a certain amount for their time, and if you treat them right and the chemistry is there, a full evening or overnighter is possible. I have also found that building rapport with a model can open doors for you relative to making additional connections.