i have been with several veteran porn stars..they all do BBBJ..some thrive on anal..some have never done it and never will..some simply want notification to "prepare"..the worst mistake you can make is to "expect it"..it is always their choice..just because they do it in their films does not mean they will do it for you or any other client..they have a livelihood to protect..
I have read through several topics covering this but there seems to be a debate about what's included and what's not. So just for clarification, does PSE include BBBJ and anal? Or does it ALL depend on the provider?
It definitely depends on the provider, I see one who provides pse. It is highly energetic non stop whatever I want besides anal. But there are others who go with it more or less.
Evreyone is different on their PSE definition, that can be argued all day...I've been crystal clear without ambiguity in what i book, & am spending the time/money to TTS or CET test, and there are no exceptions to it - ever..I dont like anal at all, so that doesn't matter...
It always depends on the provider.
Think of it this way: how many porn videos do you watch? Do all the girls perform the same on camera? Some look up at the guy while they're sucking him, some don't. Some moan loudly, some don't. Some like their hair pulled, some don't. And on and on and on. Just like their performances are all different on camera, their performances are going to be all different in person.
Also, it depends a lot on the chemistry between you when you meet. If she's not attracted to you at all (for whatever reason) she may only give a basic performance - maybe a bj ( probably covered) and some straight sex. But, if she likes you, she may be as wild, or even wilder as she is on camera and anything goes and you can probably expect bbbj, anal, and whatever else you want (but don't expect bareback unless you have test results in hand!).
If you're like Moose and want it bareback, or have any special requests (anal, dom/sub, fetishes, etc.), I'd recommend going through an agency until you make enough connections to be known as "safe". That way you can discuss what you want with the agent who can steer you toward girls who will be your type and willing to do your special requests.
Be aware though that if a girl doesn't like something (like anal) she won't do that no matter what even though she says she provides a PSE. If she's not comfortable with you, she won't engage in bondage play.
So, as I said, it's different with different providers and your best bet is to go through an agency that you can work with who will recommend girls you will like and will do what you like.
but not sure why you single me out like im the only person whose ever done BBFS...Come on, this isn't California 1848 & i discovered gold, nor did i reinvent the wheel....BBFS went on long before the days of the (now closed) AIM clinic, hell, BBFS probably went on when VHS was the primary method of watching porn...
BTW, one of the new girls i saw last month i contacted on my own, i told her type of appt i book, had references, new test, and i saw her...
The only reason I singled you out was because you had posted in the thread and mentioned testing, and you're well known for only booking bareback.
If you took it wrong, like I was singling you out in a bad way, I publicly apologize.
Thanks Mr French, you're a good guy...
And yes, while I only will book BBFS appts (the only girls im seeing are porn stars), my previous point was im SURE there are others who do the same...
I have respect for what you do. You are 100% right, BBFS does happen in this hobby, and if there is a safe way to book those types of appts, then you sir are doing it!!!! You get yourself tested right before your appts, and the ladies are always tested themselves....what safer way is there to do it? NONE!!! I just shot 2 scenes with ladies while at AVN, they were not privates, and of course it was BBFS, but we were both tested and I feel fine about it.
Mr French made some great points in his original post, and I think he simply used your name since you are the most "out spoken" about the types of appts you book, but reading it a 2nd time, there was definitely no malice intended, it was just an example. Kudos to both of you for taking the high road here...
I have 3 more scenes I'm shooting in March in LA, and guess what, I will be tested 4 days before I make my trip and I already know when the ladies tests will be done....do I feel comfortable with it.....Yep!!!
Cheers
As has already been pointed out, either of these acronyms can mean very different things to different people and I simply disregard them. If you are insistent about a particular activity being part of your session, my (and many other experienced hobbyist's, I'd imagine) best recommendation is to thoroughly examine a girl's review history, both in terms of the opening page and the details of the reviews. The more often you see the activity described in the details sections, the more likely it is to occur. Of course, none of this guarantees anything so in the final analysis, I try to confirm with the girl that she's down with my requests. I guess my point is knowledge is power, if you don't have a VIP membership get one, learn how to use it and take advantage of the full benefits of this site! I have done so for almost 10 years now and whenever I've followed my own advice, the experience has been well worth the price of admission.
i have been with several veteran porn stars..they all do BBBJ..some thrive on anal..some have never done it and never will..some simply want notification to "prepare"..the worst mistake you can make is to "expect it"..it is always their choice..just because they do it in their films does not mean they will do it for you or any other client..they have a livelihood to protect..
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