I am posting this here because the happenstance has to do with a pornstar, actually now a second, that is/was touring through my area. I haven't bothered to contact the one currently making her way through even though I am interested in seeing her.

From what I recall when the PS who came through my parts about a month ago I wasn't able to clear my schedule in order to see her (two hours of travel time made it impossible at that particular time) but did send an email back expressing interest in seeing other girls this lady represented. She replied back promptly and kindly that she would be interested in discussing some things and to text her.

I am one of these rare creatures who doesn't text message, I just don't do it. When I want to contact someone I just call them. Upon telling her this she said text was the discreet way they prefer to do things. Kinda frustrating as I was very interested in setting up a relationship. Today I see another ad up for a desirable PS and the ad requested text only or email response. I assume it is the same representative as it was for the PS who came through before.

I mean I understand everyone has their prefered methods of setting things up but the way I see it, especially for the rate these PS providers are getting, (which by the way I thought for the girl that came through before was pretty reasonable $1300) I should be able to set things up in a way that I prefer. I mean I understand that some people contact girls and waste their time, but that was the last thing I was looking to do, I was wanting to essentially express interest in specific girls she represented and maybe be able to make an appointment if they were to be headed here.

No more than a few minutes would have been all that was necessary. Instead I am left feeling like my interest and $$$ are taken for granted when it is not even worth a few minutes of conversation havint to do with setting things up and doing business. I don't know, am I stupid to come to this conclusion or what, won't cry if you think I am.

Overrall I am kind of getting turned off overall by how many of these girls, now I am talking about PS providers and non-PS providers, seem to be so disorganized/overloaded that it really leads to alot of work and bother to even get a time and date set up.

I mean if I contact a girl by phone with no anwser, then fill out her online form and don't get an anwser only to finally get an anwser to an email message that asks me to provide the same information I provided when filling out her online form, it leaves me put off to the point where I say to hell with it. This hobby should be fun and easy and alot of the time it is just frustrating as hell. I know I shouldn't expect exceptional customer service from most of these girls, but sometimes I am left wondering if they even value money period....lol

Thanks for listening to my rant, I might be expecting too much, you tell me.

Ok fair enough, we'll see what else I hear back from the crowd.

Not at all!

You may encounter a PSE you have always wanted to spend time with, follow all their rules and realize it was a waste of your time and money after your session!

So do what you want to do! May I suggest Alex Arden, pleasure all the way around!

Your spending your money, if you don't like that method of texting move on til you find a PSE or non-PSE who operates your way! There are so many providers out there, you will find many who will operate your way! Unbelievable how many there are, amazing.

...and I think I know who you're talking about.  

Here's how i see it - you have two options: either deal with the rep the way the rep wants to be dealt with (text or e-mail only), or don't.  For me, I get what you're saying about the rep being a bit firm about no phone calls and that being frustrating, but that's how she is - you have to acceot it or move on.

The good thing is that the ladies who are represented are different so when you go to see a provider that is represented, the latent hostility about having to deal with the rep won't be there.

In her defense, e-mails and texts create immediate records for her to reference regarding scheduling.  Also, there are lots of guys who see these PSs at these prices, so while it's a huge chunk of change for you, whether or not you decide to see a lady that is represented by this person won't sink or swim her ship.  So I think acting lke you are entitled to something is a bit presumptuous.

Long story short -  IMHO, dealing with the rep the way she wants to be dealt with is a small yet aggravating price to get something that you (presumably really) want, so it's worth the tiny amount of frustration that will wash away in a day or two.

Good luck!!

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To be clear, the rep that got back was pleasent enough, never saw her request as rude or anything. I just thought it didn't make good business sense to not spend a couple minutes on the phone with someone who was serious about using their services. It's really not a big chunk for me, but at the same time it is alot of money and I would just expect communication to be done how the paying customer preffered, just seems stupid to lose $$$ over something so trivial.

I have pretty much chosen not to deal with it there heinous. The options you listed are just that, some are willing to deal with more than others. And it doesn't make one better than the other either I suppose, I am just one that sees this as a hobby and I am only going to put so much energy into setting things up. The payoff is only sex after all, I have other things I can direct my attention to that lead to more fun for me.

I actually like the idea of a rep as some of the girls who handle things themselves are even harder to make contact with.

Perhaps I have no idea how many responses the girls get, it just blows my mind how difficult it can be to even make contact sometimes.

What I am starting to realize is that having principles makes hobbying almost impossible,lol. I have learned most of these girls PS, and otherwise, kind of expect the paying customer to kind of chase them hoping they will accept an appointment. I just can't do that, I expect a certain level of professionalism and courtesy, I am not asking for anything off the wall or extraordinary, just don't treat me like some needy sucker who is going to jump through a million hoops to see you.

Bottom line, if I feel they don't give a f**k about my time and money, then I can look elsewhere, or just stay at home, which for the last year or so in this hobby is what I do. I am admittedly a stickler on stuff like that, the thing is I am not going to make exceptions for this hobby. And you don't have to tell me --I AM AN IDIOT, to expect many of these girls to be reliable and whatnot. For me its just something that is a principle thing. The frustrating thing is that I have never had more expendable income than I do now, and whattaya know it seems like none of these girls I contact are even interested. I am not being literal here, its just a hell of a position to be in to have the means but to either one, not be able to make contact, or two the process of contact is so frustrating, so I can enjoy myself.

No matter how well off they are, it boggles my mind to wonder how much $$$ the ladies leave on the table every year because of this stuff (cancellations included) it could probably sustain the economy of a small country, I can account for probably 6k-7k in my relatively short time in the hobby.

You know what spoiled me was the dearly departed Miami Companions. You would call them up, always get a person who anwsered, and it was easy as pie to set something up. They were usually very reliable, with top notch talent. And when they did have a schedule snafu, they let you know promptly and were very customer service oriented. Hell they even gave me a credit one time when there was a cancellation (which by the way I would never expect from any provider, not that unrealistic or that much of a stickler). Sadly those days are gone and I do believe also is any fun I had in this hobby.

Well said, I agree totally with you!

Thanks alot there capt, I wouldn't fault someone who didn't though at the same time, again this hobby is a different kind of business and I have to recognize that.

I am not expecting it to change for me that is for sure, I will have fun with it when it is as easy as I think it should be to do so and others can have the fun I could have had when I think it is too much time and trouble to get the ball rolling.

I understand your frustration and I recently had an experience trying to schedule with a provider and she totally flaked out on me, asking for the same information three times, getting it all three times and then never returning my emails.  

There are reasons some of the agencies do better than others and some of the girls do better than others. They are simply better at the business side of things. Adonia at TLC has the reputation of being very communicative and accommodating. Pam Peaks and BM and others have been around a long time because their systems work as well. In your instance, money was clearly left on the table.  I would follow up with a very nicely worded email explaining how your business was lost and if her practices were to change later, you would love to to business again.  As a business owner, I personally hear every complaint that comes in and address them with the originator. We have to recognize these complaints as not only opportunities to save a customer, but as a way to improve our business at the same time. Unfortunately, not all of us are cut out to be in business and practices like what you spelled out can be the death nell for a business in such a competitive industry.

Sorry this happened.

I haven't seen this mentioned yet so I'll just put them out there:

MANY of these agents (and escorts) have other jobs.  They cant take time in the middle of their day job to have a phone conversation with you about an illegal activity.  A text message can be quickly and discreetly answered in seconds without taking them away from their other job.  Do you think an actress in the middle of a modeling job, or in the middle of filming a scene has the time and ability to stop what they are doing to answer your phone call and have the privacy to do so?

The same thing goes for those who have families.  They might not be able to stop when they are around kids, parents, husbands, teachers, etc. and answer a phone call about what is an illegal activity.  Again, a text message can be discreetly answered without anyone around them knowing what's going on.

The fact that they stopped in their personal lives to answer a text message is rarely noted these days and the message is quickly deleted.  On the other hand, a conversation about an illegal activity... or at the very least a conversation that's extremely guarded, awkward, secretive, etc. can be remembered for a long time.

So, maybe the reason for insisting on text messages or email is to ensure privacy and discretion for both you AND THEM.

I have always been a fan of agencies over independents because of what you have mentioned as well as some of my comments. Regardless of percieved negatives some might point out about agencies (girls being over-scheduled,etc) the fact remains that if you can't even set something up with a girl then there is no experiance to be had. I have dealt with a few agencies and have always had an easy time with set up and everything, I would say maybe only a quarter of the independents I have contacted have been painless with the set-up. And I am not one that has a problem with supplying reference info either, it has just been disorganization and what not that leads to unecessary obstacles and such.

If a provider refuses to have contact with you by phone, and only allows you to "connect" by text or email, it very well might be because the guy doing her booking doesn't want you to hear his voice.

I would always be more comfortable if I'm able to hear the girls voice so I know I'm dealing directly with her. Once I know I'm dealing with the girl directly, I have no problem with text or email. But until you know who your really sending texts or emails to, I'd be just as hesitant.

I hear ya there, assuming all is legit and well with the advertised provider (which other research can usually determine) I really don't mind if a guy handles the booking. I would prefer honesty but I know that can be at a premium at times in this hobby. If a appointment can be set up through a phone call and/or a couple emails I really don't care if I have to go through Qaddafffi,lol, if they return emails promptly, anwser the phone or return messages promptly, and don't ask me to do the same thing over and over then I am going to be pretty happy.

I find this discussion really interesting.  I have used an agency once.  The experience was bad.  I used them since the lady I wanted to see was in town. I talked to her in person and she said to go the agency.  Both she and I were frustrated with the agency.  She eventually gave me a call and we got together with out involving the agency.

I have found no need for agencies and like to talk to the ladies directly.  I does make a little more work. I find the work worth it and have interaction with the lady before a meeting. If a lady does not respond or not professional, then she is not worth seeing.  Helps with my screening process.

Just a quick comment. Text message is always there as a permanent record. Phone conversation is not recorded to what the topic was, text message is always in it's original specific content format.

What Dollars is saying is absolutely the way that I approach this issue also. I want to at least hear the person's voice on the other end. For soem reason it makes me feel m,ore comfortable. However, I am pretty sure I know the person that this thread is about and the person on the other end of the phone is definitely the person that's represented is handling the inquiries. So my usual rule doesn't apply to her. I would prefer calls though

I also find this interesting and informative having recently been "flaked" on by a PS that cost me a substantial amount of $ in the process. Note that I am new to all this activity, I am learning the hard way...