Let me first say that I am not writing to get into a debate on whether or not this fetish is your cup of tea. I am merely trying to explain a recent experience and reach out to the community to see if they feel the same as I do on this subject. I am not a rookie to this hobby but not exactly a high roller either. I have had 3 PSE encounters and 1 with a UTR Playboy Playmate. Not to mention a handful of sessions with a few local "non" porn stars. About a week ago, I was in Southern California and had an amazing meeting with a gorgeous young UTR Porn Star. I can't write a review or tell you who she is because she is UTR, and also can't tell you through which agency I used because that would be considered a "shill." Anyways, I must say how shocked I have been in this hobby to find out that most PSE's don't include facials on the menu. Even though you know for a fact that the girl or girls you are seeing have taken the "money shot" multiple times in their careers. I mean is there nothing more common in porn than a facial? I'd say a 75-80% of porn scenes end with some sort of shot to the face. So it has to be because it's popular and what the fans want to see. So if you are looking for the PS Experience and you book with a girl who's known to take facials, than why would it be not allowed? I mean it's not like I'm asking a performer who's never done anal in their career to give it up. For example, if you check out my reviews you will see I had a great encounter with all natural busty PS Sara Stone a while back. Obviously I am a fan of hers and have seen many of her scenes. Most of which ended with a jizz shot to her tits or face, sometimes both. So it was to my surprise that when I met Sara, she made it very clear at the beginning, that facials were not allowed. I also had a good time with Dani Woodward and it made me think that it would be like as if Dani, who is a deep throat goddess, told me "no deep throat allowed." Thankfully Dani was the perfect PSE where what you saw on film was what you got. Deep Throat/Facials was allowed with Dani but I think you get my point. So here is my most recent experience with this subject.........

I won't go into a detailed review because that's not the point of this post. But it was a lovely young unbelievable beautiful porn star that I spent an hour with last week. I have seen many of her scenes and yes, she has taken quite a few facials in her profession. At the beginning, she went over some rules. No anal was expected and no rough stuff. Other than that she said, pretty much what I've seen from her on film is what I get. So we got started and I must say, she was easily the best session I have had in this hobby to date. Fast forward to the end and she was kneeling in front of me while I was standing. Time was running out and I was getting ridiculously excited. I finally popped and because of the angle and position, I shot a huge load in her left eye and completely covered her nose and chin. I mean it wasn't really on purpose but not exactly an accident either if that makes any sense. I just have never came that much before in my entire life because she really was just that beautiful. That's when it all went south. I tried to admire what had just happened and remember, she never said it was against the rules at the beginning. Also, like I said, not like she's never had this done to her before. Anyways, seconds after the act, she said in a very stern tone, "That's not cool!" I immediately felt like a jerk-off and ran into the restroom to wet a towel for her to clean up. I mean I barely gave her the towel before she ran into the restroom. I mean I barely got to see that beautiful face covered in jizz which can't help me feel a little disappointed. When she came back out she actually was still rather sweet and told me that it was OK. However, I could still tell she was not happy about it. I even asked her if I could see her again next time I was in town and she said, "I don't know, we'll see."

So I guess my question for the community is, am I completely in the wrong here? I mean I feel really shitty about the whole thing because I obviously made a poor assumption. In the past I have also read many reviews on certain porn stars I had an interest in, and I got to say, I was shocked by how many Porn Stars don't allow facials even though it's quite common for them to take them during a scene. Is it a safety thing? Is it just that the girls don't want to re-do their makeup but really don't have much of a choice on set? I just don't get it. I hope their isn't a backlash from this community about how I'm a jerk and a, "who the hell do you think you are" response. Like I said, I've learned a valuable lesson, It won't happen again without a verbal agreement, and I really do feel bad about the whole situation. Thoughts?

sounds to me like you are fixated on this CIF thing..there are plenty of other ways to dispense your load..is CIM so bad?..porn stars hate surprises..even though you never discussed it beforehand..you should have at the very least asked her where she wanted it before you popped..they will always tell you..courtesy even applies to O's...

You're an asshole for pushing her boundaries.

Some people don't like to talk about "physical acts" before hand but obviously it can be brought up while you're balls deep or she's slurping on your meat monkey.

That you didn't uncover that boundary until too late is no one's fault but yours. That's just a plain simple fact.

I agree.  The length of the original post reveals the fixation with CIF.   While reading it, I got the impression that the CIF described was not an accident.   You did it because that is what gets you off.  That is fine, but you need to clear that with the provider in advance.

...I've said it before and I'll probably say these two statements many more times before I retire/die/whatever:

1.  Just because a woman does something on film doesn't mean she'll do it with you.  There are many reasons for this - comfortableness, chemistry, concern about disease, and control of her body to name just a few.

2.  Just because a review says a woman did something with the reviewer doesn't mean she'll do it with you.  Some reviewers lie.  Sometimes a person might get more (or less) because of looks, chemistry, or some other reason.

It's ALWAYS important to make sure EVERYTHING is discussed before you get to that point.  True, most women won't talk about things in advance of the date but, once you're there in the room, the business part has been taken care of, and she's reasonably sure that you're not LE, there's no reason not to bring up what you want, want you expect, and make sure she's on the same page as you.

And there's also no reason why you can't say something while you're in the act.  For example, if I'm getting a bbbj, I'll mention when I'm about to blow and leave it up to her to decide whether to take it in her mouth or not.  Coming on her face without warning is not appropriate.  She might have been perfectly willing to accommodate you since you clearly enjoy that but, she might have wanted to close her eyes first.  Cum in the eye can sting.  

Anyway, communication is the key.  Always talk to her and make sure she's ok with what you want.

BTW, if you could PM me the woman's name I'd appreciate it.

Always - be nice.....

Inch your way to pushing the envelope... Don't push and break down doors to push boundaries.

I always make sure to ask for what I'd like in a nice tone. If she's not into it - she's not into it. End of story. It's always the lady's choice. That's it. Nothing really more to add.

nycad

I wouldn't expect anything less from a long standing member of this community.
Thx for helping to keep it all level headed.

-nycad

Is because the guy had a current test. If you had shown her a current STD test perhaps she would not have minded the facial or PSE.

Next time ask a porn lady is there more on the menu if I walk in with a current test. Of course, ask her what companies (talenttesting.com) she would prefer you get tested at.

R

I don't think any girl enjoys being shot directly in the eye. That shit stings.

While everything you mentioned is correct, all of you have overlooked a very big reason.  A girl is in a city to have appt's., she might have 5 in one day, and she might have only two.  What she does in her spare time, be it shopping, or going to a nice place to eat, (instead of room service),  she wants to present herself as nice as possible.

That means dressed nicely and having her makeup done perfectly, just as she has for her appt's.
If a client decides to surprise her with a facial, or worse yet an eyeful, (which will render her a red eye for hours), her makeup is runied.

That means that if she takes 30 min. or 2 hours to get her makeup perfect, it is time lost, time that is taking away from her shopping , eating, or future appt's.  It should only take a girl 15 min. to touch up her makeup after an appt., to be ready for her next appt., or to go shopping.

But if you guys look at the problem as time management, you'll understand.  Putting on makeup is not alot of fun, it's not like pulling on a pair of pants, it takes time, and it is has several steps to it.

On a set, after the scene, and before anothewr scene, their are makeup artists to do the job, so the girl doesn't have to worry about her time or appearance.

This subject has been asked repeatedly, I finally decided to let you all in on one of the biggest reason, since none of you have a clue.

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Kathy you have a wonderful way of expressing yourself in your message. Your obviously a woman of Beauty and Candor along with being Very Intelligent. Best of luck to you in all of your future endeavors!

What it does to hair. Alexis May was willing to spontaneously take it on the face from me, but pleaded I not get any in her hair.

Thank you for the compliments,  XO Kathy

Perhaps I've found a new calling, an advice columist,,,,,, Ha

I will take any advice on the hobby you can give.  I am up in Northern WI and have to drive over 90 min for any meetings with Providers.  I want to make sure they have a good experience too.  Pickings are slim up here, cannot afford to make mistakes.........