This may be a Don Quixote level endeavour, but I’ve been thinking about increasing my pornstar options and my general level of depravity by hiring pornstars, including noobs, to shoot videos for a website that doesn’t (and won’t) exist. Given all of the options open to a porn producer, versus a regular hobbiest, the kinds of play possible are endless.
Yes, the cost of talent is higher than normal hobby costs, but it’s also not subject to the same level of time constraint. And, honestly, there’s probably a way to make it tax deductible. Plus I’d have a moments of my experiences.
The thing that gave me the idea is the plethora of “casting” videos, which I know aren’t really “casting” videos, but which are shot with few cameras and no cameraman. Easy enough to imagine setting up just such a scene for own personal uses.
Has anyone done this or is there some giant pitfall I’m not seeing?
I assume you intend to book "the talent" through the agencies that they work. What do you intend to tell them when they ask you what you've produced to date? You realize the girls are repped by these agencies as much to find them legitimate work with established porn producers as they are to protect them from situations like this? What agency would send a girl to you unless you had some prior production experience....or at a minimum an active porn website?
I wish you luck in your endeavor....and not trying to be negative Nancy....but I think you're going to have a tough time booking top notch talent with any of the big porn modeling agencies.....unless you can offer astronomical money far above the going rate....
Maybe you can book private shoots with TLC, Porn Companions or Pamela Peaks with girls that they rep for our services....but I got the impression from your post that you wanted to do this outside of those agencies and deal directly with the girls modeling agencies to bypass an hourly rate situation?
Good luck...let us know how you make out...
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I'm not necessarily looking for "top talent". Rather, I'm looking for fresh talent that's willing to put in some effort in the (erroneous) hope that this will be their big break.
Clearly, there are agencies and talent willing to work with new producers, or else there wouldn't be the abundance of content creators that there are. A back-story and a (fake) business plan would be required, I'd think.
Perhaps the reason nobody is doing this is that it's a pain in the ass.
Isn't it much easier to tell them the truth and ask if they would allow filming the encounter, if the price is right? Role play included, of course, as I see. I've read that some Porn Stars allow it for an extra and higher cost. They sometimes ask for a copy of the material, in case you publish it, perhaps, because I, if I were you, would keep it for myself. Yeah, don't even think about publishing it without her express consent.
Well, those are my two cents.
Regards.
For this to be a legal porn shoot (and not P4P), I think you would need consent forms: model release, 2257 certification, record retention, ... Depending on the jurisdiction, shooting porn may or may not be legal. In the LA area, they have the new (new? a few years old) law that requires the use of condoms for non-oral insertion. Most legit porn companies also require sequential recent blood tests to prove that you are healthy. And I'm not talking about your cholesterol level.
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Other than that, I like the idea! Need a camera man? 
Posted By: Mastersbaiter
This may be a Don Quixote level endeavour, but I’ve been thinking about increasing my pornstar options and my general level of depravity by hiring pornstars, including noobs, to shoot videos for a website that doesn’t (and won’t) exist. Given all of the options open to a porn producer, versus a regular hobbiest, the kinds of play possible are endless.
Yes, the cost of talent is higher than normal hobby costs, but it’s also not subject to the same level of time constraint. And, honestly, there’s probably a way to make it tax deductible. Plus I’d have a moments of my experiences.
The thing that gave me the idea is the plethora of “casting” videos, which I know aren’t really “casting” videos, but which are shot with few cameras and no cameraman. Easy enough to imagine setting up just such a scene for own personal uses.
Has anyone done this or is there some giant pitfall I’m not seeing?
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The condom law applies only to Los Angeles County. Word has it that AHF's Michael Weinstein had something to gain from it financially, so he pulled his political strings to somehow get the measure passed. He tried to make it statewide in the following election but thankfully the voters said no. They've only recently begun "enforcing" this condom law, which requires the producer to pay $1600 to the county health department along with proof that performers have received county-approved training on blood-born pathogens. And that's of course if he doesn't plan on using a condom. However, this, 2257 and any other legal matter regarding production apply only to videos that are publicly released, which OP doesn't seem intent on doing with his. If he does plan to release it publicly, then he should get tested at a facility recognized by the industry, designate a custodian of records with a physical address, and perhaps shoot outside LA County to avoid the Measure B nonsense.
I know that some agents are very protective of their performers, even if they're brand new to the business, and would want some proof that it's a legit shoot. They'll know early on into the conversation that you're most likely doing this for personal reasons and end the conversation abruptly. They get calls like this quite often I'd imagine.
Good points and details I didn't know (the public release stuff).
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However, this, 2257 and any other legal matter regarding production apply only to videos that are publicly released, which OP doesn't seem intent on doing with his. If he does plan to release it publicly, then he should get tested at a facility recognized by the industry, designate a custodian of records with a physical address, and perhaps shoot outside LA County to avoid the Measure B nonsense.
I know that some agents are very protective of their performers,
And even if it was agreed that public release is not the goal, private use only, I'd bet that a legit agent probably wants the same assurances for a private non-public release as for a public release. From what I read years ago, a Drug Store 5-minute dip stick test is not enough and even one blood draw full panel is not enough. They used to want a series of clean checkups over the course of several weeks or months.
After OP gets all the details worked out, I'm still volunteering to be the camera man.
Oh no, home tests definitely won't be acceptable. Industry folks know what to look for and where to look, specifically the Free Speech Coalition's PASS database where performers and their statuses are listed. I believe the tests have to be done within a 14-day window to be considered current. Full-panel tests include both blood (HIV, Hep B, Syphilis) and urine (chlamydia and gonorrhea).
The agent's only concern is that the performer is treated well and that the male talent is respectful, professional and has got a current test.
Some less intelligent hot chicks might be lured into doing fly by night porn, but they won't be anyone that you know from actual porn. I'm sure all those casting videos with anyone you've heard of had age verification, blood tests, etc., has people have mentioned above.
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And if you are scamming these girls about the nature of the operation (understand you intend to pay them the going rate), word would probably get around.
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Also, it's not the kind of thing I would want to try to write off on my taxes. "Yes, Mr. IRS agent, I've kept all the receipts from my shady fake porn business."
without a history you wont get any top notch talent and agencies wont deal with you .
You can get amateurs very easily - but as pointed out you'll need the necessary paperwork.
Also in the states that allow legal porn production you are genrally required to have an adult film license in order to shoot.
Those are limited in number and good luck getting your hands on one without big bucks because they are generally assigned to BUILDINGS not to people
whether you choose to shoot legally or not is up to you because in all honestly the majority of porn shot in the US is NOT legal .. However.. if one of your actresses decides something went wrong and wants to sue - you'll be up shit creek without a paddle. Just FYI.
(20+ years porn producer and director, former studio owner)
I totally agree with Kitty. The laws involved with running a legit porn company are complicated and not to be taken lightly. I wouldn't go any further without talking to a lawyer.
My advice is to stick with building a private collection with escorts and porn stars who are okay with it. You need a good reputation and build trust to get many ladies permission to do this.
