Next time you see a girl's rate and say "Damn I could never afford that"..I just discovered and learned that these girls have a sliding scale for certain guys..For example I have noticed generally that West coast porn girls charge East Coast guys more..

I was wondering how these girls were getting 1K plus an hour..Damn can't believe it took me this long to figure it out but as my friend said "You cracked the code!"..LOL..

Latest example was a well known porn lady charged me 1K and I tried to get her down but she would not budge..than my friend who is in the porn business told me "Dude I can get her for you at $500"..I didn't believe him and he pulled it off..Not only that he has gotten me 4 other ladies at almost 50% off their advertised price..And than when I referred a couple of ladies to my friends they were trying to charge them double of what I paid!

Next time you see a lady that charges a lot of money go see the car she is driving..If she rolls up in a 1995 Toyota Corolla than you know she aint' her rate often..Or if you go to her location and it is a cheap hotel than you know she is not getting top dollar often..

. . . The 300 Club.  For TER guys who know enough not to pay Wall Street prices for a Main Street commodity....

emailed shay sights


"My rates are 1300 cash for the hour, 2300 for 2 and 3200 for 3. Greek trips depend on how long the appointment is. Longer appointments it's less or nothing. An hour or two it's 500"

so basically 1800 for one hour and greek

OUCH

How did you get the lower rates? Just direct booking?

You may have "clicked" somehow and the next time maybe get a lower rate. It''s worked for me albeit regular providers. Why not PS's too? Man it would be great to know someone in the biz for help.

i saw Shay a few years ago for 1 flat...strange that rates would be going up in this market.  When did you ask her rate?

If i click with a girl, even a PS it usually gets better and the rates come down. Now i am not talking after 1 o 2 sessions but there are a few i have seen for a couple of years that give me nice breaks and i even go away on vacations.

A lot of laides swing for the fences and hope you go for it. Not a bad strategy, if someone is willing to pay double what they would take the lady will not stop and say " I only want half that much"

If you ever get in a price discussion understand one fact. The difference is not the amount you are willing to pay vs what she wants. It's what your willing to pay and zero because that is what she will get when you hang up the phone. Can't tell you how many times I was stopped before hanging up the phone

I've noticed at the end of the month the scale slides tremendously!

. . . wait till the 4th week to call a porn star?  LOL

I ended up paying retail PS prices for the first meeting, and hit it off well enough with her that I was doing overnights for less than what the first 90 minute session was.

Someone of my acquaintance says: there aren't $1000 an hour ladies... more like $1000 an hour clients.

Couldn't agree more. Its like any other business in that its all in how well you can negotiate. A real pro can spot a sucker immediately!

on Monday asked Shay about her rates

No. Not for a very long time. My rate has been 1300 for years. If you go to bodymiracle.com you'll see it's 1650 an hour there.
Shay
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:16:10
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Hello


Sorry too much..Have your rates gone up?

Sounds good. Brazzers and Reality Kings have asked me to come to Miami a few times so I'm trying to get a trip planned.
Shay
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the fact that as one guy said "they will swing for the fences hoping a guy would say yes"..And that I know somebody that they were seeing for half the price and asked him to book for me as well..

And as one guy told me "It's amazing how you can get cheaper prices when their rent is due"..Best time to book is at the end and beginning of the month..

As the guy said below there are not any 1k per hour ladies just 1k per hour clients..LOL

D

Has done bg scenes for $600 and when I say that I mean being on the set for 4 to 5 hours..So obviously you can get her for a lot less than 1,300 cash if she realizes that you are going to walk away and see somebody else..

D

Well I posted some of my email responses from Shay..

Didn't see like she was going to negotiate the price.  I am in LA for business...

Told her maybe we can catch up if she's down in Miami to shoot for Brazzers.

Hopefully I can get a better rate then..

Knowing if these girls do b/g scenes for $600 and are on set for 4 plus hours, crazy how someone can spend $1300 or $1800 with greek for their asking price.


Lezley Zen is Boca Raton and shes charges $1k, maybe you can get her for $800 if you drive up to her place...


****When Adriana Deville is charging $500 or

Cindy Valentino with her DDDs is charging around the same with greek, hard to spend double the amount for an hour session then with Shay...

What do you guys think......


Atleast they are cordial with their email responses!

"Okay Shay let me get this straight..You are going to fly 10 hours (back and forth) to make around $1,000-$2,000 before taxes and of course your agency fee will be taken out and you will probably get paid a month later..Whereas I am offering you 'X" cash for same day and you can stay here in LA"..

I am a shrewd business man myself as well as many of the guys who post here..I would take a whole lot less for cash same day AND not travel 10 hours back and forth..Just my humble opinion..

D

for one thing, I'm not a good negotiator, lol, nor do I have "salesman" skills/personality....But, I pretty much ONLY book one type of appt. (service wise) anymore, so I don't ever try to negotiate rates...

And I counted 3 girls on there who I know for a fact would have charged about 60% less than what you paid based on your review..

Now you don't have to be a salesman type..Just do a cost analysis of what you paid with a non-porn lady who looks as good and offers the same service..Than say to yourself "If I paid x for so and so than I will pay this lady who has fucked on film (actually that is only difference between the two) X dollars"..

By the way good reviews!

D

Actually, my rates are 2500 for a boy girl scene. It depends on the girl. I don't know anyone in the 500-600 range. As a director I pay most talent 900-1200. Check lisaannstalentmanagement.com for accurate scene rates on me. Glad you enjoy my work.
Shay
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The above in regards to her film work rates

Look... If a lady doesn't know you, it's not worth it for her to see you. She doesn't know who you are, so the risks are way higher than seeing someone she knows. It's basic risk and reward; the higher the risk, the higher the reward. So, once you know a girl and she likes you, you might be able to pay less.  Now you may ask me where I got this idea from. Well, it was from more than one provider, one of which is a PS.

If someone vouches for you and the girl feels that person is trustworthy you'll pay less. There is one provider I see on a regular basis that I pay what I want and another that I have gone out with a  couple of times and only paid for the date.  It really depends on the girl and the relationship you build.

If that was the case, then I would never see a PSE and would only see one provider ever. I like to compare different PSE with different PSE.