Hi all,

I'm a newbie who just had my first PSE/hobbyist experience down here in south Florida a couple of weeks ago. It was with someone who is currently "on tour" (maybe for the last time in a long time), is obviously a big favorite on this board (she posts here regularly), and has been a longtime favorite of mine. I needed to give myself a great birthday present, and at "WalMart pricing," I couldn't pass it up.

The provider in question was wonderful in every respect: even more attractive in real life than in her movies, unbelievably skilled, interesting, intelligent, sweet, and I could have talked to her for hours.

My question is this: if a provider describes her experience as "GFE," especailly a PSE, should I expect kissing (mouth to mouth), hugging and the kinds of things I think of when I think GFE? My experience was that it was perfect GFE when she was going down on me, or me on her, or both, but there was no mouth to mouth, or hugging, or anything that was explicitly not sexual that sets the stage for everything after. Am I being naive? I didn't feel bad about it--in fact, by the end of it, I thought that matched perfectly with her personality and all the rest--but I was left wondering about this basic question. It seems to me there must be lots of providers who are more than happy to go down on you, and have you go down on them, but kisses--don't go there. That's too intimate.

Just wondering, and thanks for your input. Greetings and hello to all.

GFE - she yells at you, tells you that you never listen, says not to night honey, I'm too tired, and takes you for everything your worth at the end.

Oh wait, that's "W.E." - 'wife experience'.

PSE - anything you see in a porn movie ("anything" depends on the provider). Essentially.. penetration

GFE - A nude lapdance on steroids. Probably no heavy sexual talk, and I wouldn't expect to finger anyone. Kissing possible. Touching to me implies hugging of some sort.

I think the term GFE is a bit misleading. If I had a GF and she only gave me a lapdance to get me off she would not be my GF lol.

I expect to kiss and be kissed, passionately. I accept nothing less from my partner. It goes without saying that a GFE or especially a PSE includes kissing.

There are any number or reason why she didn't kiss you. Did you check her reviews ahead of time? And was this mentioned? Beards or mustaches sometimes get in the way. Were your teeth pearly white and minty fresh? With flu bugs going around, it might have been wise to forego kissing, but it should've been on the menu.

If you ask 10 different hobbyists what their defintion of a PSE is, you'll probably get 10 different answers....It's rather subjective, IMO....I have my own definition, & am firm with it....

I checked some reviews ahead of time, but I wasn't/am not a VIP member, so I didn't have all the specifics.

I have a well-trimmed goatee (every pussy should be so well maintained!), but hard to imagine that's it. As far as breathe, basic hygiene, etc., those aren't issues. I'm a reasonably attractive guy, very fit and in excellent shape.

So I think it was just this provider. Telltale clue: in her scenes in movies, as with many girls, there wasn't a lot of mouth to mouth. I think that's probably the takeaway on this. But no complaints. The mouth to everything else, from her and me, was perfect.

Yes, everyone does have a different outlook on this topic.
I consider myself a girlfriend..if your girlfriend happened to be a porn star, lol...
GFE is definitely not a lap dance on steroids, it's fucking at it's finest, like you want to keep your boyfriend coming back for more!

I have never heard of a girl in the higher price ranges NOT kissing but to each her own. Maybe if she is "Wal-Mart pricing" at this time then she is seeing too many clients in a day to want to kiss them all.  

Ask her & welcome to our little world