After all the points about porn stars getting upset if they are asked if they escort. I think this is like a bunch of women on Oprah-it is getting way to emotional.  I respect women (pornstars whoever) that suck d*ck for a living but I think fasteddied you are way to much into this whole thing (point taken by your blog-how many hours a day do you spend on that).  I treat them with respect and even made a few friends out of this thing (dated a few and even had many relationships with escorts but it gets old very fast)but they are women that sell their ass for a living and that does not mean they do not deserve respect but they are also not mother theresa.  No reason to call them names (bitches or hoes) but let's all be serious here-they are who they are.  Like Bill Parcells says after a loss-YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE-and your record speaks for itself-don't tell me after throwing five interceptions that you are better than that-YOU JUST THREW 5 INTERCEPTIONS, THAT'S IT NOTHING MORE)..  Noone should be disrespected but these woman do sell their ass and the ONLY reason they are with you is because you can pay for it.  I am not trying to be mean just honest (I realize there are guys that will say how they found there wife here and I am not mad at you nor bitter. I have turned down relationships with escorts b/c even though I got into this because it seems simple-I quick piece and move on-it turns out getting difficult and unlike others I do have a life away from here)...  Don't put them on a pedestal.  fasteddie, I have some new hobbies you can take up...You ever think about golf or texas holdem...It is way less expensive and you can have a life outside of here.  Just wanting to help-don't anyone here to have to see a shrink.....

My point was all about lack of civility and the apparent feeling of entitlement that many on this board seem to have.  Since it's a board about pornstars, they are the focus of attention here and so they were the examples I used.

As for my blog, I spend very little time on it.  When I have a few moments I jot things down until I complete a post.  And I play golf every week and am an avid fly-fisherman, so believe me, I have a life outside here.  But I appreciate your concern.

I agree...and basically if you have tons of money then by all means  do whatever you want with it..

But if you are a middle class range, then spending upto $1000 for an hour with some pornstar, and hoping after a few times she will give you better deal and becomes friends with you is just too much..

I'm not saying it doesn't happen but cmon your wallet is taking a hit..

Plenty of girls with good looks who can give you the same experience..

Plus many pornstars, if they do greek its not included in their rates and its extra, so more $$$..so to get the whole PSE you spending a lot if you go thru all these agencies or directly thru them....


I even think $500 is excessive..to each their own...

If you are paying to have sex with these girls you are no better or worse than them. That is my biggest problem with some of the stuff here.  Some people act like they are so much better than the girls that provide but in reality they aren't. It takes two to tango.

Even though the average hobbyist is probably very educated (college degree) and perhaps comes from a stable family and has to make at least 75K a year to do this we are still a John or a Trick..We are no better than the ladies that is why I just laugh when certain ladies in this same line of work (sex for money) think they are better than other ladies..

People on this board get offended when I say "Lay on your back" or "Prostitution"..I would understand if I did not partake in this hobby but I do and I know my title (John, Trick, etc)..

It definetly takes two to tango!

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I agree, but the bottom line is money. The only thing a prostitute wants is money from her/his trick. The bigger the wallet the better chance this transaction will continue or repeat. Granted you may develop a friendship over time, but that is rare. If you didn't have the money in the first place; they would never have seen you. In the very slim case of a relationship developing, if you lose your wallet; you'll probably lose that relationship.

Disagree Capt. I'm still good friends with a few ladies I used to see as a client.

Yes, escorting is a business, but friendships develop, even emotions in some cases.

This is way too somber and maudlin a conversation, for something as exciting and fun as good sex with ladies who really know how.

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about a providers friendship only being friends as long as you're a client. I had developed what I thought was a personal friendship with a ps a while ago. Though I saw her as a client, there were several times where we would just hang out with no intention of sex happening. We'd email, text, and chat. I thought we had a very good seperation between our business relationship and personal friendship. But after she decided to stop escorting, I can barely get her to return an email, and never return a call. It's to bad, I thought she was really cool, and that we had a nice friendship going. I guess maybe she thought I wouldn't be able to handle a plutonic friendship now that I wasn't a client.

It is ridiculously fun. I will never fly fish for trout or bass again after going for bonefish. Hard to reel them in though, when they hit that fly...they run like no fish I've hooked, and that includes jacks.

Arranged to meet up with a porn star who was definitly not a PSE. Needed to sway her with money, but got not only a video of us out of it but a relationship which began with a stipend and then -- get this -- she couldn't handle that.

Now we're simply boyfriend and girlfriend, albeit in an open relationship on both ends.

Definitely an exception to the rule.

From my experience a good number of PSE's need to exist in the lifestyle they grew accustomed too during the big dollar days of Porn. They will do what it takes to continue in that lifestyle.

There is so much truth to the fact that man thinks with his small head, especially with respect to a beautiful PSE's. He finds a few he likes and just continues to feed that fix.

I know of a PSE who agreed to do an extended appointment with a hobbyists [like that word is any different from the real title "trick or john"] for a large some of money; she despised the john and hated every minute of it, but wanted that cash so she did it.

Absolutely!

I primarily salt-water fly fish usually at Corson's Inlet near Ocean City - I generally fish for stripers and bonito.  About 5 years ago I went to Long Island in the Bahamas specifically for Bonefish.  During three days of guided fishing in a flats boat, I hooked three and landed one with a T&T Paridigm 8 weight and a Loop Evolution reel using a Scientific Angler tropical weight forward line.  

You're right, they are in my opinion the ultimate game fish on a fly.  It's amazing to watch these fish take your line well into the backing on their first run.  I used to love watching Chip Pallot on TV and bought his book "Bonefish".  Tied a bunch of crab flies for the trip which is what I took my 7 pounder on.  There's nothing like catching a fish on a fly that you tied yourself.

Is the dude so clueless? If I were ever to do an overnighter, I would do it with someone I knew I could get along and put up with for that long a time. That list btw is very short and is at 2, one PS one non-ps.

It must have not been fun for the guy either if the girl despises him.

You have to understand that when a provider retires, sometime she needs to sever all ties with the profession.  It's not necessarily that she didn't think of you as a friend, but that friendship was part of a "life" that she's trying to put behind her.  I went through that with a PSE, and when she returned to escorting a year or so later she called me and apologized and told me that she just needed to step away from the lifestyle entirely.  She had stopped talking to anyone who had been part of that time in her life, clients and fellow PSEs included. We re-established our friendship and when she retired a second (and final) time we've continued to stay in touch.

I guess I'm the poster boy for the exception to the rule... I've been lucky enough to date and even vacation with no less than 5 PSEs who started out as strictly client/provider but eventually developed into non-financial relationships.

She mentioned he was very new to the hobby. I think he was intimidated, by a beautiful this PSE and really had no clue of what to expect. I know that the first time it can be intimidating. That's where the prostitute / john relationship comes into effect. They want the money; you want the honey - Bottom Line!

Fasteddie that is not the norm for this hobby. I think hobbyists want to believe they can get close to a PSE; think that their close to there particular favorite, but in reality PSE's are just looking to make a buck. This may be a poor choice of words, but there is no real integrity in this hobby. A PSE with a full schedule has an appointment with john1 for 1K at 8pm, later john8 calls and says he can only do 8pm for 2K; you know the story. That's the vibe or feedback I have gotten from PSE's I have seen. Maybe I'm wrong.

Re: Absolutely!

If you ever have the time and money (you might have the money right now, don't know your financial situation) you need to try Christmas Island. It's just of the southwest coast of Jakarta and has some of the best bonefishing in the world. My dad took me their as a graduation present a few years ago...awsome.

I agree that friendships w/PSE's are probably as rare as the Detroit Lions being the front-runner for the Super Bowl at the start of any given season...

I saw one star (for 2 appts.) this past trip...She's reliable, beautiful, & the sex is "beyond thunderdome"...(the beyond thunderdome came from an article i once read where Charlie Sheen used that phrase to describe sex w/Ginger Lynn back when they were dating in the 1980's)...Anyway, I couldn't ever imagine a true friendship arising with this star, but I'm NOT looking for that anyway....As long as the appts. stay great (and every one has been thus far) she'll have my continuing business...