Okay we all know that porn is very slow for the ladies..Heck just look at the new post from porn ladies escorting on this board..As I was driving my rental car it had XM Radio so being the pervert that I am I  tuned it to "Playboy Radio"..So in about 10 minutes they named every single porn lady who was dancing at a strip club and the address and city..Now as I was listening I did not know of one who actually escorted..

My question is how much do these girls really make at a strip club working for tips? And why not bite the bullet and just escort you can make a lot more money just laying on your back for 3 to 4 times a day at let's say $500-1K per hour (If you are like Lisa Ann popular)..

In my humble opinion dancing must be hard because you have to stay on the stage for a long time..than grind multiple guys for lap dances and walk around and shake hands with people who have given you a dollar..LOL..

You ask these ladies if they escort and they get insulted or angry..Who knows maybe they get angry because they are actually escorting while dancing you hit a nerve..It just does not make sense for girls to travel thousands of miles too dance..Than again you have girls who will travel 3,000 miles to do a bg scene for 2K..

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I think that there are some woman whose egos wouldn't allow it. They have built themselves up to be these stars that are untouchable by the public. Even though they will be literally used and sexual abused on camera for peanuts. But the camera and set legitimizes the actions in their minds. Their whole world would fall apart if they crossed that line into escorting. Even though they could make more money and be treated far better by men that are for the most part much nicer and more professional than some of the folks that are in the "legitimate" porn industry.

I mean really how can a girl let Max Hardcore piss in her mouth but turn her nose up at having what is by comparison vanilla sex with a well to do business professional for more money and less time. It is like the girls at a local strip club in my town who will suck your dick for thirty dollars a song but when asked if they are will to escort will become outraged and proclaim "I am not a prostitute".

All people create their own realities which justify or support their actions. It isn't a good or bad thing it just is the way it is.So in one womens mind it is okay to spend time with a fan while another girl is horrified by the notion but has no problem giving high mileage lap dances to strangers in dirty clubs, or being the "victim" in a Facial Abuse scene.

First off, Everyone has a right to do whatever they want with their own body.   You need to stop getting mad at the girls who don't escort and be happy with the ones that do. There are so many girls that do escort why do you have to focus on the ones that don't? And why do you have to be so mad at them because they dont want to escort?  IM sorry but that is their prerogative.  Some girls are not cut out for escorting and some are.  Do you really want to pay a girl who isn't into it?  Or do you want to be with a girl who loves it? That is the bottom line.

Now as for the stripping at clubs. I featured for many years and made a killing at it.  You make money from the stage, table dances, pictures, videos, Merch, and the club pays you really well to be there. I only had to do 3 to 4 shows a day  and dance to 4 songs each set.  Some clubs 2 to 3 shows because they were not open in the day.  Plus it's a lot of fun!!  Actually I had some of my best times featuring with Selena Steel. Also,  I am sure girls like Lisa Ann and Stormy get paid A LOT of money to show up at a club.

And Danny there is a lot more to escorting then just laying on your back.  

Now I am sorry if I came off a little harsh but you really should stop getting upset over who's not doing what and focus more on the ones that are.  In fact, there are more girls doing it today then there has been in years and for less money too.  You should be happy about that. Back in the Exotica 2000 days there were less porn stars and they were all over 1500 an hour. And there were barely any  independents.   Eddie and a few others on here can vouch for that.

I hope everyone on here has a fantastic day!!

XOXO, Bridgette

PS.. I told you I would be by time to time with my unsolicited advice. HA!

Ego is a big big thing with Pornstar's. I had a Pornstar tell me how she stopped a plane taking off from the ground by flashing her tits. I know there are many people full of it in any profession.

MissBridgetteM mentioned "Do you really want to pay a girl who isn't into it?  Or do you want to be with a girl who loves it? That is the bottom line".

Like any profession the bell curve always exists. There are many who provide a good service, but there quite a few who don't. At 1K to 2K per hour it's good to know who provides great service, that's why reviews are so important.

I agree with you 100%!... There are girls who don't feel comfortable doing it. Why? Lets see, no regular testing, you are by yourself with a stranger, it is illegal and you could be arrested (even though the chances are slim).

End of the story, there are a lot of legitimate reason why some girls do porn, dance, and don't escort. Saying they have a big ego and won't do it is too much of a generalization. Maybe thinking every girl who does porn should see you for me shows an even bigger ego.

I very clearly stated that is wasn't a good thing or a bad thing it is just the way it is. My post was in no way intended to be a judgement of anyone or their decisions on what to do or not do with their own bodies. I did not say that all pornstars who do not escort are egotistical. We all have an ego and it is the reason behind we do or don't do things.

I only offered one possible explanation. While one person may not find any logic behind another persons decisions they are not ruled by the same Ego. We have all had different experiences in life that determine how we act today.

The point I was trying to make is that just because it wouldn't appear logical to me it is not my ego determining what that person finds acceptable.

I apologize if my post was unclear or if my understanding of psycho analysis is wrong.

From Dictionary.com
Ego
the part of the psychic apparatus that experiences and reacts to the outside world and thus mediates between the primitive drives of the id and the demands of the social and physical environment.

Well to be fair there are porn stars who do escort and don't like it. I have met my fair share of them and they are usually the ones that just lay there. Not every girl is in it because they love it. They are doing it for the quick cash or to feed a habit. It is sad but I have met them. Not all are like this but the cold hard reality is they are out there.

DO's messages on this board started out informative...then they turned largely negative...from being mad about girls who do escort but charge "too much" to being mad about girls who don't escort...what's up with that?

And, DO's also is guilty of my pet peeve on this Board...he is one of a handful that constantly beats the drum that PSE's ask for too much and "many" can be had for a fraction of what they publicly ask for...but he never tells us who those girls are...he just says things like he "knows for a fact" that an "A-list" PS is really available for $600 when she asks for $1500 or more...If the point of this Board is to share information, then why doesn't Danny Ocean, Dollars and Sense and those like them actually share it...Instead of saying they know PSE's that are willing to take 50% of what they publicly ask for, why don't they tell TER members who they are...or, in the alternative, educate the Board at how they are able to get those kinds of prices...Instead of criticizing the PSE's for one thing or another and/or complaining about rates, if those things REALLY bother each of them and they want to bring prices down, the best way would be to help other TER members get those same kinds of deals.

While it's not as much as it used to be, a fews years ago a top name PS could earn $10K or more during a four day appearance at a big club.

The club would pay her a substantial appearance fee, and with her tips, lap dance fees (some as high as $100 per song) selling her autographed photos and DVDs (which she got for free or for cost from the production company) and a minimum of $20 a shot for a Polaroid, she would do very well and without having to suck one dick.

Before Sadie Sexton got into porn, she was simply a HOUSE dancer at Cheetah's Too in Vegas, and she averaged $5000/week and drove a $100,000 Mercedes.  In fact, I asked her why she ever got into porn!

When I first discovered PSEs, there were probably less than 50 openly available, and very few of them booked independently, at least not if they hadn't seen you first through an agency and given you her contact info.

E2K was the dominant player, and they would drop a girl if they found out she saw anyone directly while on tour.  Even if the girl wasn't exclusive and booked thru E2K and another agency, E2K would limit her tour dates to NYC, which at the time was the Mecca for PSEs.  I know several PSEs who would make over $30K on a NYC tour, so most wouldn't risk losing that by seeing a guy directly for a couple hundred bucks.

And the rates through E2K started at $1200 with most of the girls at $1500, plus a few of the big names even more.

So things are so much better today than they were when I discovered "this thing of ours" with hundreds of available girls at more reasonable prices... just look at Kevn Roby's 300 list.

love the post

In fact, I asked her why she ever got into porn!

And Sadie Sexton responded; please let us know fasteddie!

I am not a lady in the business just like you are not a guy involved in this business..Thanks for answering my question about WHY would a lady go on tour to dance..All I am going by is what I have seen ladies dance and see the tips they get (between 1 to 5 dollars per guy)..I have no idea what these ladies get for an appearance fee or how many songs they dance too before a break..

And yes there SHOULD be more to escorting than laying on your back but unfortunately some porn girls who have gotten into escorting have just done that..

You did leave something out that there are a lot of porn girls who escort that have no business escorting..And there is a minority(usually the ex or current swingers) of girls who escort that actually do enjoy it..Just like there are many girls in porn who never really liked doing porn but do it just to pay bills or to please their boyfriends or husbands who pimp them out..

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I just do not understand (based on my experience in the strip clubs) why would a lady travel across country to do lap dances, dance on stage, and get small tips rather than escorting?

Again I have no problem having porn girls see me who do not escort..The only catch is I have to film them and actually it is cheaper..

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All I do when I escort is lay on my back.  You mean there is more?  Day-yum.

Honey you do more then just lay there.. I think I remember moving furniture with you.. HA!

There are no small tips when feature dancing! When Selena and I would break out the double-ended dildo the money would fly onto the stage! Plus we did doubel lapdances for a 100 bucks a song. So  yeah the money is pretty damn good.

And how is filming cheaper? I charge more to be filmed when I allowed it.  Because if your going to flim me then you have to pay me what the companys pay me.  

I know there are a lot of women who hate doing porn and escorting but for them it beats working in the mall.  
And this is why you have so many girls who have to get some kind of a buzz on to do certain scenes which is sad.. OK and hell they are still young and want to party. I get that.. But I think there is way more partying going on in porn today then there ever was in my day. (wow that made sound old) hahaha!!!
Also, a lot of the girls hate doing anal but do it because that is what the companys want and the money is really good. An anal scene will pay 1,200 and up. So the girls do it.  Now,  more then likey if a girl didn't do anal when she first got into the business then she probably  isn't into it. So when you see someone's "first anal scene" more then likely she is not excited about it and is doing it for the cash.  
And I am sure there are a lot of girls that have to get some kind of a buzz on to escort.

But all of this is the point I was making...  Why would you want girls to escort that dont want to do it?  Some of them dont even want to do porn but do it anyway.  The sad part is they spend most of their money on shopping and their "stay at home" boyfriends.  

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Bridgette...how can i get to become a stay at home boyfriend?

If you remember Raylin, one of my fav's, she was an anal queen in her movies... she begged to be fucked in the ass and seemed to love it.

When I met her as a PSE, I asked her if she did anal (because I knew guys were going to ask me) and she said yes, for an additional $500!  I asked why she charged so much for it and she told me "because I HATE it"!

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If I recall, she felt that by doing porn she could become a feature dancer and make even more money.