Look as much as you want to pay for a once in a lifetime fantasy , prices for porn - stars are way out of line.
1.5k to 2k and up for Hour is ridiculous. And even in a down economy they seem to be going up!( see Ryan Connor)
If its the agencies that are the culprit ,fine lets give props to the providers that Book direct.
And  what exact criteria does it take to call yourself a "Porn Star". Kathy Willets seems popular, How many movies did she ever make , 2 or 3? Im not picking on her per se since she seems like a nice lady , but it seems there are a lot of Ladies who claim the Title so they can then Justify the rate.
Lets stop the Madness!

I second the motion.

Book direct and always practice safe sex.

LOTR

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, that your not picking on me.  To correct you, there are over 20 video/DVD titles that I have been in.  I hate it when someone decides to tell the world how many videos I've done.

Is it that you are the know-all of the Porn World, or is it that you've only seen 2 of mine?

What makes a Porn Star is the respect that a girl has in this business, and a very loyal following of fans.  Or someone who can pick and choose which project they want to be involved in, not all of the girls have this ability.

Any girl can go out to LA and make a ton of videos, in fact a girl can make 10 videos a week if she wants to do so.

Granted there are quite a few girls who list themselves as a PS, and who really have done just a few small roles in videos, but we can go round and round on what the "definition" of a PS is.

If you do your homework, there are many girls out there, who have done videos, who have prices starting as low as 450.00 on up to 2500.00.  So why is it that your complaining??

I just came back from a tour, and had to turn away people, it all centers on your fan base, and your quality of service.

There is a girl out there for you, in your price range, don't complain about what other people can afford.

Prices for these beauties is out of control! Forunately there are some ladies out there who are legit porn-stars that don't charge so much you have to take a loan out! I just had a great encounter with Sierra (check her website/reviews for price)! The price was more then reasonable and the encounter was second to none!! You can't beat it!!!

Read her reviews.  Kathy is one of the all-time greats.  A real lady and a true PSE....if anyone deserves the title Porn-Star, it's her!

Get a better paying job!  If you had the cash you would pay the big bucks in a heart beat!!!

kathy, was are the list of video titles you have been in.  you say you were in 20?  i did a search on a adult database and only handful came up.  do you have a website that lists on your video titles?

Babes Of Bonerville    
Blow Me
Convention Cuties      
Dirty Bob's Xcellent Adventures    
Las Vegas Revue 2000
Las Vegas Revue '97  
Naked Scandal  
Naked Scandal 2  
Philmore Butts Meets The Palm Beach Nymphomaniac  
Sex Survivor
Sex Survivor 2
Sex Survivor 3
Sex Survivor 4
Seymore And Shane Meet Kathy Willets The Naughty Nymph    
Snatch Masters 11
What's The Lesbian Doing In My Pirate Movie Lipstick

I count 16...do your homework before you single someone out.

Don't hold your breadth expecting her to reply listing all her video's. Kathy has too much class for what she would perceive as self-promotion. However if you are compelled to satisfy this burning question, I would suggest you check out www.talkingblue.com/pornstar/kathy_Willets_Film10.htm.  I don't know if I have all the links here but I just visited this web site and it had listed 14 videos, and the information listed here is out of date. The lady is the real thing.

There are a handful of porn stars that also are considered top quality escort providers. While I have only seen two of them, you can review the TER database and Kathy's reviews and she consistently ranks in the top. She was my first pornstar, and when I decide to leave this hobby I will go out on top or with her on top whatever... but finish with the best.

So I assume that your calling me a liar.  Let me set the record straight,  I do not need to, or have the desire, to contact the different web sites that list videos that people have been in.

I have better things to do with my time, as you can tell by my reviews, I am very busy.  I do not need to see my name listed over and over again, like the majority of the girls do.  These sites are supplied their information by several sources, mainly by the stars themselves, and by the video companies, or by the company that is trying to sell you a product.

The videos for the most part, have been cataloged, ie., the price has been reduced, since it's initial release.

The majority of my videos have not been reduced in price, they are still at their release price, which translates to video stores not carrying a large number of my videos.  

Video stores buy their videos on an automatic ship, x amount from several different video companies, of course the store wants to buy at the lowest price, so they inturn, can make more money off of the consumer.

Now the only reason for your post, as far as I'm concerned, is to call me a liar.  If you had asked me at my yahoo group, for an order sheet of my videos, so you could purchase some of them, I would not assume your post was to accuse me of lying.

Now that I have educated you in how the Porn Industry, sales and marketing works, is there anything else I can do for you?

Maybe you can answer a question for me?  Does it matter how many videos are listed, or is it based on the quality of your work, how large your fan base is, or your reputation within the industry?

Tony,

You need to be careful who you hold up as example of excesses. Kathy Willets is a bad example to use as someone who overcharges, and represents the overcharging madness.

There are plenty out there more expensive and don't deliver half the performance that this lady does. If you book directly, you can see her for $1000 an hour the last time I checked. For a porn star and escort of her caliber, that is a very fair price.

This hobby and it's definitions are so subjective, there's no standard answer to the question, but that never stopped me from giving my opinion, so here goes...

First off, to me there should be two different categories.  Girls who have appeared in porn movies, and real Porn Stars.  Girls who have appeared in porn movies is self defining.  They include the hundreds of women who have done a few gonzo films, often unbilled, and/or amateur vid's, and those who call themselves pornstars because they've done a few blow jobs on a website.  In many ways it's like the local escort who appeared in a Playboy "girls of' pictorial or showed up as a model on the Potpourri page who then bill themselves as a Playmate or Playboy Centerfold...  There's a BIG difference between a girl who has merely appeared in Playboy and a Playboy Playmate, but it seems that the girl herself (or her agency) makes no similar distinction.

On the other hand, Porn Stars are the ladies who have established themselves as highly sought after by both video companies and fans and have a substantial body of work that have sold a lot of copies... Taylor Wayne, Keisha, Tracey Adams,  Anna Malle, Miko Lee, et. al for example. - and Kathy Willets qualifies for that group not because of the QUANTY of her work, but by her notoriety and long-standing association with the adult industry.  The lady is known all over the world, has had hour long documentaries devoted to her, and writes a monthly column for an adult industry internet magazine - other than Jenna Jameson, Kathy probably has higher name recognition among non-porn fans then anyone else in the business.  So the "Porn Star's" high price is justified (or some might say rationalized) by the "fantasy factor".  

I'm sorry, but I just can't get worked up enough to pay $1500 to bang a 19 year old chick who's done a few Dr. Fellatio videos for $200 a scene... but given the opportunity to be with someone like Kathy or Taylor or the big names definitely has a "wow factor" to it, enough so that I'm willing to dig a little deeper into my pocket for the chance.

And truth be known, it's been MY experience that while not always, generally the more famous the pornstar, the more pornstar-like the experience is.  Maybe it's because they've primarily done work for companies like Vivid, VCA, Legend, Wicked, and those kind of companies who make sure that their stars are promoted as fantasies, so they've learned from experience how to dress and primp and act like a true pornstar.  They've seen what it takes to be a fantasy girl.  And it's hard not to act like a pornstar in bed when you're wearing 7" platform stilettos, two-inch long eyelashes and three inch long fingenails painted bright red - clothes really do make the girl - lol.  

On the other hand, a girl who has done nothing but gonzo has never experienced  being groomed by professional stylists and make-up artists and dressed in that slutty/glamourous style that defines a true Pornstar, so it's not uncommon for them to answer the hotel door in jeans and sneakers.  and I'm not trying to speak for others, but to me this really detracts from the whole PSE fantasy - when I'm with a pornstar, I want it to be just like a well done porn video... the big porno hair, blow-job nails, cum-fu*k-me heels, garters, the whole nine yards... that's a BIG part of the fantasy to me.

Now I know some will disagree.  to many, the image of a "girl-next-door" type who screws like a nymphomaniac is the fantasy that appeal to them, which is why the definition is so hard to objectify.

And all of the above really doesn't address the actual performace one receives from a $1500/hr adult entertainer vs. a $300 local provider... I've had local ladies who have met or surpassed many pornstars in both beauty and nastiness... but that doesn't really enter the discussion... because when you're with the local girl, you can't visualize her doing a DP with you and Vince Voyer, which is kind of what the whole porn star fantasy thing is really about, isn't it?

anyway, that's MHO

But if the traffic bears it, well, then, who are we to argue or interfere?

I think to all of us, a sex act has a certain value. My number is much lower than others here, but I've spent a lot of time overseas where a woman making such offers as the one Keisha made below would be rightfully laughed at. But, we're not overseas, we're here in the U S of A, and it's a different ballgame here. The activity is illegal, our country is run by people who are sexually repressed, even in a recession we have the strongest economy in the world. In short, this is the formula for hign-end escorting. Besides, the only difference between 20 years ago and today is that the ladies are Internet accessible. Before, you'd have to go to your madam (a sign of affluence, IMO) and ask for availablilty. Porn stars have always done escort.

I likely would never pay $1750 for a sex act, even if my first name was a title, like Sultan or something like that. But that's me. I really think the better course is to be a gentleman and wish the ladies all the luck in their endeavours.

How dare he or anyone else imply that you are anything less than a Goddess!! These two should crawl a mile over broken glass and beg for forgiveness at your feet. After all, over 20 DVD's. My goodness. I didn't realize that was the optimal number. Pardon our ignorance (we are so grateful for the education we have received today).  And your reputation. Well. Look at all the guys who have crawled out of the woodwork to defend you. And the grace with which you have responded! Truly admirable. A, uhh, queen's ransom must be a mere pittance compared to the enrichment of a client's life when he has spent time in your presence.

I've never even met Kathy, but I admire her sincerity and honesty and am quite put off to think that someone would attack her. A porn star is a lady that has appeared in a  number of videos and has a fan base which Kathy obviously does. Some porn stars are more PSE's , some are GFE's and other s are a combination of the 2. I , myself, have been in over 250 xxx movies and most websites only list 115 plus titles. The truth is that there are so many titles out there that no one can keep up. Plus most areas have obscenity laws that make certain sex acts illegal. Because of that certain companies don't sell to certain areas at all. Which means that you could easily NEVER see a large part of a lady's body of work.
If you are quite happy to pay $300 for a no name then go right ahead, but don't knock the ladies that have names and ask for more. To somewhat borrow a line from the Osbournes: Our vagina, our business. Just because a lady might not be worth it to you doesn't mean that she isn't worth  it at all.  And it definitely doesn't mean that there aen't people that are having fun that you can only dream of.

I saw this post earlier and wasn't going to bother but some things shouldn't be allowed to slide by without comment.

I agree that some of the price increases have changed my plans.  That is my personal decision and I hold no grudge against any of the ladies I was considering.  It is their life and their time they are sharing with us; the decision of how many of us, the when and where, should always remain up to them.  I have no interest in a high volume provider that is only there for the money and is obviously not enjoying herself.

As for your comment on needing a larger number of movies to qualify as a Porn Star, I have seen several ladies who have a large number of titles under their belts.  Most were fun to be with but didn't have that raw energy, that feeling of total enjoyment, that I feel defines a PSE.  I have only met two ladies who have done films that reach that goal (I have met a couple of more that aren't in movies who have that energy as well).  I agree that the ladies on this board should have at least some movies but being a "porn star" on paper and providing a PSE are two completely different ideas.

Your example of Kathy is probably the most ridiculous part of your post.  I have copies of three of her movies and there are many others I don't have.  Putting that fact aside, she is one of two women who I consider the ones to define what a PSE actually encompasses, an incredible combination of PSE and GFE that leaves you enthralled.  I would never consider trading the time I have spent with her for anything or anyone; she has provided me with some memories that I will truly cherish when I'm sitting around in a rocking chair and everyone else in the rest home is wondering why I have that stupid grin on my face.

DrX

I'd definitely be willing to donate more to see. I was living in S FL when all the news broke with Kathy, so I saw it up close in the news media. And the one biographical piece I saw about Kathy(how many other porn actresses besides Ginger Lynn have televised bios, that aren't dead?) laid out the drama of her life. IOW she is a bona fide celebrity and personality.

And based on her reviews, she's also a lady one would want to have on your arm at dinner, or spend some wicked quality time with behind closed doors. Damn, got myself all worked up LOL. MfSD.

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My post was not meant to be a bashing of your reputation.
Your stellar reviews can stand on there own  . But I stand by the premise the you are not a "Porn Star". Notorious Yes. Porn star no.
Now that does that mean you arent worth what you are getting , more power to you. You seem to have a very loyal following , albeit some zealots who missed the point of my post.
I  also think Eddie stated some things more eloquintely then I could.
Whats a Porn Star - Jenna , Syndee Steele , Savanna Samson ,
Jill Kelly , Anna Malle , Julie Ashton , Shayla LaVeux ,Amber Lynn , Ginger Lynn ,Raquel Darrian,Asia Carirera , Taylor Hayes,
and many others who have graced the Box covers of Vivid , Wicked among others.

Obviously,

You did not read all of Eddie's email because if you did you clearly would have seen that he put Kathy in the category of porn stars.But your narrow minded focus doesn't seem to permit this.  Your thread is insulting and it is bashing. And the more you continue this line, the more you show your ignorance, or perhaps prejudice. If your definition is so narrow and you are unwilling to look at the evidence that is your entitlement, but I would keep your opionions to yourself.

She is considered a porn star by the industry, by her fans, hobbyists and everyone who matters. She deserves to be treated with respect, and your repeated harpings on this manner is not earning you any points or friends.

I am entittled to my opinion you SHILL.

You made this personal when you singled me out by name. I am always amazed when someone posts a blanket remark such as you did about the rates for Porn Stars being "ridiculous"...

Who are you?? Do you think that your opinion really matters? What personal experiences can you share with your statement that might add credibility to what you are saying,, the fact of the matter is you are no one, your simply are a wanna-be. You enjoy posting and seeing your name in print. It's very obvious that you are very frustrated and simply don't know how to deal with the fact that you can't afford to see a Porn Star.

You have two reviews under your name, not a whole lot of credibility here for you to bash me or any lady in this business.

You just show your complete ignorance and immaturity when you post,, and you will continue to be on the outside looking in, and that just pisses you off....

She has made a handful, at most; yet you consider her a porn star.  She has actually made only a fraction of videos compared to Kathy Willits.  I have had my differences with Kathy so you can rest assured I am not acting as a shill.  However, I do think you may have been better served putting forth a general question as to what makes a porn star rather than mentioning anyone in particular.

This sounds like Tony was trying to transfer the "What is Art" analogy to "What is a Porn Star"??  I

think that most women who appear in commercial videos are porn actresses, however the one's that get 1st or 2nd billing in a movie or have their name mentioned in a movie's title (i.e. Kathy's Seymore Butts movie which the title escapes me) or has won award recognition for their work (though I'm disgruntled that Leeanna Heart has yet to earn any recognition) or make mainstream appearances on talk shows or in movies &/or TV shows, those are STARS!!!  Those are the one's that the producers want in their movies & will give his left arm to cast.  I've never had the pleasure of meeting Kathy in person (please come to New England) but she is recognizable because of the qualities I mentioned above.  Of course, some guys' opinion varies because "Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder."

This thread seems to have split into two seperate issues...  The definition of a pornstar, and the outrage at Kathy Willets being dissed as a non-pornstar.

I'm one of Kathy's biggest supporters, and I consider her a friend... additionally, I rank her in the top two experiences of my time in this hobby... Between Kathy and Keisha, it would be hard to place one above the other.  And by every single definition that I have, Kathy is a Porn Star, with a capital P and S...

But I think we're straying from the original post regarding prices and exactly what makes a person a "porn star".  The references to Kathy's reviews, (which I'm in total agreement with), doesn't really address the question... If Jenna Jameson turned out to be lousy in bed during a "date" with a fan, it wouldn't diminish her status as a Porn Star.  So as fantastic as Kathy is (which I don't think ANYBODY would disagree with), it's not really germaine to the original question; rather it's a side-issue that we've gotten into.

The fact is that while this and other forums are dedicated to discussing the PSE (which some say is porn star experience and others claim stands for porn star escort), the fact is that there are many women who come under that umbrella who aren't really porn stars...  after all, we talk about  feature dancers, Playboy Playmates, Penthouse Pets, other magazine models, and even some girls who's only claim to fame is as an internet model.  Few or none of these women have ever done a hardcore scene, yet we treat them equally on this board.  The common bond that ties them all together is that they escort and have some celebrity status.  If Pamela Anderson started escorting, we'd be talking about her here... we wouldn't start a new board called Movie Star Escorts - There aren't any Playmate escort boards, Pet escort boards, or Magazine Model boards, etc.  We group them all together here.

So maybe we should start calling these ladies ACE's - Adult Celebrity Escorts.   Then we wouldn't have to start qualifying who was and wasn't legitimate.  In the end, it's much ado about nothing.

I think we can all agree on this point... this board is dedicated to discussing women who we've seen on TV, Videos and DVD's, or in Magazines, they've probably appeared naked at one time or another, their names are recognized by tens of thousands of people, and we fantasize about fu*king them....  What else really matters?

Instead of acting like our former moderator DOC and verbally abusing him for voicing his concerns why don't you people try educating him instead. Same old story with this board, just because someone's opinion is different then yours you try to squash it and him. I have heard nothing but great things about Kathy Willets but after seeing the way she responded to Tony with such venom completely turned me and probably many other hobbyists off.

I'm a black porn star with 60 movies behind me and great reviews and I really hear your point.  Honestly the reason my rates aren't sky high is because I actually have fun at what I do and prefer to see a person more than once.  I really don't understand why other porn providers charge so much but maybe there kitty cat and other holes are made of gold.  

Note:  That is each and every provider's proagative to set their rates but if you know where that gold is being sold please let me know because maybe I could buy some and raise my rates too, ha ha!