Politics and Religion

Let’s talk about 1/6…
LostSon 43 Reviews 485 reads
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With the left clinging to the narrative that it was an insurrection they are perpetrating a lie for political ends.  

This fellow makes one of the most common sense arguments that it wasn’t anything but a riot.

From the article

“The word insurrection is a legal term. Under federal law it’s a crime to incite or engage in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the U.S. or its laws. Black’s Law Dictionary defines insurrection as “a violent revolt against oppressive authority.” It is to be distinguished from a mob or riot based on organization of an armed uprising. Mobs and riots can involve unlawful and violent acts, but they aren’t necessarily insurrections. A revolt is an act to overthrow the government. Insurrection, therefore, requires an organized group that plans an attack to overthrow the government.”

If 1/6 was an attempt to overthrow the government? Why didn’t they actually do it? The rioters got tired and went home. The National Guard showed up later that night to an empty Capitol and did nothing after that.

RespectfulRobert140 reads

Again, the definition of an insurrection is as follows:
"A violent uprising against an authority or government."
It has NOTHING TO DO with the success, or lack thereof, of the uprising in question.  
For example, what BLM did was a riot as it was NOT directed at government.  
CASE CLOSED. Move on with your life bro.

Posted By: RespectfulRobert
Re: Oh good lord!
Again, the definition of an insurrection is as follows:  
 "A violent uprising against an authority or government."  
 It has NOTHING TO DO with the success, or lack thereof, of the uprising in question.  
 For example, what BLM did was a riot as it was NOT directed at government.  
 CASE CLOSED. Move on with your life bro.
Obviously you didn’t read the article and “move on” is exactly what you and all the other lefties want everyone to do. Accept the narrative that trump and the rioters were trying to overthrow the government.  

Ya know the old argument “keep telling the lie and everyone will eventually believe it!”

RespectfulRobert116 reads

An "insurrection" and a "revolution" are totally different words with different meanings. I dont hear anyone calling January 6th a revolution (i.e. an attempt to overthrow the government) for it wasn't. What is was, was a "violent uprising against the government" to stop a duly elected man from taking office. THAT is an insurrection per its very definition.

The BLM protests weren’t directed at the government? You can argue whether it was a riot or an insurrection, but to suggest that they weren’t directed against the government really puts your credibility into question. The case is most certainly not CLOSED.

We are talking about federal courthouses, the police stations, the Secret Service having to take the President into the bunker.

RespectfulRobert127 reads

Almost all the violence was directed at privately owned entities and NOT governmental ones. Now, compare that to Jan 6th which was SOLELY aimed at a federal building, and not just any federal building; the same one in which the election would be formally certified on that specific day and the same one that Trump told them to go to. It is disgusting that Rs try to make any comparisons between BLM riots and the actions taken by insurrectionists on 1/6. Vile, really.

If so, congratulations! You've succeeded! Because Jan. 6 did not exist in a vacuum. It was the final, desperate act in a broad conspiracy to create fake slates of electors; enlist state legislators to nullify the legitimate electors; enlist state election officials to "find" new votes for Trump.
And the purpose of Jan. 6 as more than a simple riot was almost fulfilled. The rioters interrupted the lawful certification of electoral votes and nearly succeeded in getting it postponed to the following day. During the delay Trump was working the phones to friendly Senators trying to get them to vote his way.
So, yes, taken all together it was an insurrection.
And of course you won't believe that because you are locked into an alternate reality. One that is based on lies you desperately wish to believe.

Posted By: inicky46
Re: Are you TRYING to be dense?
If so, congratulations! You've succeeded! Because Jan. 6 did not exist in a vacuum. It was the final, desperate act in a broad conspiracy to create fake slates of electors; enlist state legislators to nullify the legitimate electors; enlist state election officials to "find" new votes for Trump.  
 And the purpose of Jan. 6 as more than a simple riot was almost fulfilled. The rioters interrupted the lawful certification of electoral votes and nearly succeeded in getting it postponed to the following day. During the delay Trump was working the phones to friendly Senators trying to get them to vote his way.  
 So, yes, taken all together it was an insurrection.  
 And of course you won't believe that because you are locked into an alternate reality. One that is based on lies you desperately wish to believe.
Then why did trump tell his supporters to PEACEFULLY protest? He didn’t say “charge Attack the Capitol and stop the vote!”  

Yours is the more conspiratorial theory.

I forgot to add, there’s no evidence of a wider actual conspiracy. If there were they could actually on real live grounds charge and convict trump. The case in DC is designed to be a political hit job not enforce law and uncover an actual crime.

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No insurrections, just a good ol time at the capital....Now have you finally convinced yourself...yet?

Posted By: RespectfulRobert
Re: LOL. The dolt from Fox, Tucker Carlson, called them "sightseers!"  eom
Some of them were. There are people who attacked no one, broke nothing, and just walked in after the fact and they have been charged with all manner of crimes.

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