out of the USA if President Bush is elected (again)??? In a small way, (very, very small) I'll feel a little relieved if President Bush isn't elected again.  I fear that the hatred that some of you have for the man and his beliefs is so intense that it may cause harm to your health.  BTW, Baloney, your web-site got a plug on Fox news the other night.

What's the Hollywood stuff about? I think many liberals (which simplely means free to think for ourselves), dislike like hollywood films. they spend too much on actors and too little on screen plays. Honestly do you really believe that liberals looks to hollywood for mentoring? I've always wondered if Consevatives believe thier own propaganda.


I think liberals had a master course on hate from the right during Clinton. There was so much hate directed at Hillary, that when Bill cheated people didn't care about the feelings of that B-i-tch, as Newt;s mother would say. That really backfired.

As to his believes, what are they? He seems devoid of a belief system. He says things about God but he centainly hasn't turned any cheeks.

I don't think you look to them for mentoring, but the ones you guys seem to follow lock step behind are funded by them.

BTW, I agree with you on Hollywood's efforts in the screenplay arena, it gets worse each year, look at all the remakes, most are inferior.

I used to say the worst thing about Clinton was how pissed off he made my fellow conservatives.  I guess its a matter of perspective, because now I think how much hatred is being aimed at the President is one of Bush's best attributes!  I thought then, and think now the negativism will re-elect  the incumbent.

transparent hypocrites, about meritless issues(Blow Job), clearly designed to attack character, didn't advance the debate of this nation, and wasted millions of taxpayer money.  

   Whereas attacks against Bush relly are not raising his approval ratings because these attacks are against his terrible judgement on matters of war and national security.  Honestly if it wasn't for 9-11, I would be surprised if Bush would have an approval rating of anything higher than 25%.  

   BTW, Bribite do you still consider me your fellow conservative?  
Since on issues I am very conservative, however, I don't blindly engage in Bush worship!!

originally when I wrote "for Christ's sake" in a sentence, are lefties.  One is a practicing Aethiest.  I would imagine as most of the guys in here will not wish to annoy a providor, no one will start screaming at you for invoking religion in your text:  "Good lord"  Then there are at least 3 or 4 who cannot write their opinion or statement without slandering our current President or members of his team.  I actually love a debate over ideals and don't take offense to someone's position that isn't in line with mine, but I think it's too bad when some are so angry that they cannot submit their point of view without the sophmoric bias.  A little like a person who won't reinforce their argument, but instead choose to yell louder.  Does no one else get this?

No, I don't hate Bush.  I just want him to retire, or change jobs.

/Zin

Man, that was a while ago (at least from me).  Do you not understand that my ``jumping on you'' (NOT in a Gay way) was not because of your ``for Christ's sake'' sentence but because of your (IMHO) ignorant statement (if I recall correctly) regarding the waste of time and resources AIDS research has sucked out of our economy.

Now, my categorizing and subsequent mocking of you as a member of the religious right was because your statement was, to me, right out of Their Book.

What just slays me to no end is how you can whine about people being meanies to you and their inability to express their points of view without the sophomoric bias.  In a thread with QuietAmerican didn't you write
``I mean, at the bar w/the boys, do you admit that you suck dick?''

Wow, your'e so much above us Lefties that cannot express our views without anger and juvenille insults.

Can I play with your malvinas?

I had to say it, NOSC- that's Argentinian for Falklands...

Clinton was guilty of Perjury in a court case that had nothing to do with "that woman", Monica Lewinsky!  You might remember he was disbarred in his home state for it, not to mention he was impeached by the House of Representatives for the same crime.  Most people would be in Leavenworth for a similar lie before a federal court.

What a silly question, I have never considered you a "fellow conservative"!  I have always considered you the Art Bell of this board.  That you so easily forget Clinton's transgressions, in favor of the blowjob tripe proves that you are easily spun.

You seem to consider George W. Bush an idiot on one hand and an Evil Genius on the other.  Which is it?  That you seem to be falling in with the Kerry crowd, if anything I have come to doubt your intellect and sincerity.

   From the day the man came into office the right wing loonis were after him with the sole purpose impuning his character and nothing more.  
   The fact if I don't approve of Clinton's personal transgressions but can be a lot more forgiving of a man who lies about commiting adultry under oath than a political cronie brain deat puppet who has made this a much less safer nation and lied to start a war.  
    Bush is neither evil nor genius!!  He is simply an ignorant empty vessel who is a complete insult the the proud and courageous legacy of Reagan.  
    And yes I am a true conservative which is another reason I despise Bush.  Bush is nothing more than RepubliCON cronie!!

And I agree, Clinton committed a crime.  A crime that I consider to be somewhere between a parking violation and a speeding ticket in it's severity - Specifically BECAUSE it was disobedience to thwart an abusive process run out of control by Ken Starr.  The Congress obviously agreed, that it was not cause for removal from office.  He was tried, under that process, and deemed worthy of keeping his office, despite his minor crime.

So, basically, Clinton was tried, and acquitted, by a congressional Jury that obviously weighed the malfeasance of Clinton against the malfeasance of his persecutor, Starr.  And delivered their decision.   End of story.

And, BTW, whatever crime Clinton committed was certainly FAR less serious a crime than, say, a DUI, or going AWOL from the Alabama Air National Guard.


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It wasn't the blowjob, it was the Perjury in the Paula Jones case that got his balls in the vise!  He lied, under oath, to keep an American citizen from receiving her day in court.

Impuning his character?  That would assume character existed.

You're a conservative in your own mind, a trouble and confused mind in my opinion.

Your opinions on the war and Bush personally are just that opinions.  You're ability to transform opinion into fact gives testament to your lack of clear thinking.

   Im pro-life, anti-gay marriage, for a very small and limited govt, for lower taxes, pro 2nd ammendment, anti social welfare, and the issues go on and on....  Im a Reagan Republican and a Reagan conservative.  
   Your inability to distinguish a conservative from the modern day RepubliCON gives testament to the fact that so many like you are nothing more than brainwashed party dittoheads whehter they be Republicon or Democrat.  
   The difference between us is that Im not a blind follower who engages in Bush worship.  And in your head Bushworship is the same as conservativism.  And since Im not a blind puppet I have the clarity to see through a person rather than bowing down to a party name.  
   You are typical of party puppets.  A republiCON who thinks all democrats are evil, and on the other side we have puppets who think all republicans are evil and wrong.  Its ok, I really do understand, its not your fault!!

Parking tickets have sanctions too.  In the case of an abused process, no longer being able to participate in that process any more is of little consequence.  It certainly has not diminished Clinton's earning power.