Will Trump's advocacy of hydroxychloroquine and Azithromyci therapy make him a hero?

shaping up that way.  Many doctors were on the news tonight with anecdotal evidence in their own practice that they completely subdued symtoms in 24-48 hours.  This will make a great campaign ad as more people are cured with this drug.  Right now, I'm watching  a Dem state assembly woman giving testimony on how hydroxychloroquine saved her life.  She credits Trump talking about it that made it an option for her.  She said it completely turned her around in 24 hours.  

Her reply was, "You can die."
Now go read up on the drug's many side effects.

is a rheumatologist at Cedars-Sinai  that treats autoimmune diseases like lupus with hydroxycloroquinine.  He has given it to over 2000 patients and says the only significant side effect is an allergic reaction in a small percentage of people who take it.  These patients already have compromised immune systems, so he would not prescribe it unless it was safe.  

HCQ is given in combination with Azythromycin, which also causes heart problems. Also, I think you need to do some more research, as I believe you and your doc are minimizing the side effects of HCQ.

ok inicky,  what are the possible dangerous side effects that would keep You from taking the drug if you contracted covid-19?

Trump has said MANY MANY times for people to check with their doctor FIRST. For the people who wouldn't have an issue with the drug, the "what have you got to lose" line is dead on accurate.

Real doctors get their information from the medical literature (and drug company sales reps). People have known about the antiviral effects of Hydroxychloroquine / Azithromycin / Zinc for MANY years. The doctors testing various combinations (H+A, H+A+Z, ...) out of desperation had plenty of precedents to do so.  They also knew the medical explanations of why these therapies even had a chance to work.  This was not "throw everything in the medicine cabinet up against the virus and see what sticks."  The decisions were based on REAL science, not "a feeling."
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The guy interviewed by Giuliani knows WHY he is using H + A + Z.  Unfortunately, his data is anecdotal and not "controlled" or monitored in any other way.  800 successes out of 800 trials is kind of suspicious. He could very well be selecting patients w/o test results; he might be avoiding treating or including patients who are already highly compromised. He might be excluding patients who complain of side effects. That's why Fauci and other scientists want controlled clinical trials, not anecdotal evidence.  
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The earliest reports on the use H + A (+ Z) came out of China but the experiments weren't well done. There were "cures" among the treated but almost at the same rate as there were among those who didn't take H + A.  There were  other problems with the Chinese studies. The French study was similarly flawed. http://www.newsweek.com/swedish-hospitals-chloroquine-covid-19-side-effects-1496368
"SOME SWEDISH HOSPITALS HAVE STOPPED USING CHLOROQUINE TO TREAT COVID-19 AFTER REPORTS OF SEVERE SIDE EFFECTS."  
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This is why CONTROLLED trials are under way around the world.
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Trump processes information at the level of a 5th grader. One Fox News headline is all he needs: "What have you got to lose?" When bogus remedies are promoted to the exclusion of more effective remedies, HARM IS DONE.  Someone with cancer or diabetes could very well benefit from a tested and approved drug therapy.  If they spend their first 6 months taking ineffective but "natural" coffee enemas and rubbing wishing stones, their chances of survival are drastically reduced. THAT IS WHY REAL SCIENTISTS WANT REAL DATA TO DETERMINE ACTUAL EFFECTIVENESS.

If it works for him, it will be a game changer.  The crisis could end very quickly.

I watched him yesterday say EXACTLY what I quoted. And, while he's thrown in a few disclaimers (which you, you GIGANTIC sucker, have gobbled up), his predominant statements have been to flog the drug. If you don't know this you are either even stupider than I thought or a bigger liar. Basically, he has at a minimum confused the shit out of people. There's a process for vetting drugs and it's there to protect people. Now you and your Lord want to do an end run on it because a few uncontrolled studies say MAYBE it might do some good.
But you can help. Why don't you give some to your granny and tell us if she croaks or not?
Until then, STFU.
Gawd, Hack, you are so desperate you'll uncritically suck down whatever this ass clown says. You are without doubt the World's Biggest Hack.

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Did you see the Michigan Gov reverse field on this one after hearing from her medical people?

which in turn will cause you to spin a blood clot leading to a stroke. Sound like fun? There's more, but if you're so interested, google is your friend.

GOP Plant I am sure. lol

IOW, you and Laffy. LOL

Seriously have you ever seen Nick so fucked in the head?

Yes HCQ is an old drug. Duh.
It has been used to fight lupus and malaria. Duh.
It also has side effects. Duh.
So if you're going to use it for something TOTALLY new you need to test it first. Duh.
Thanks for proving Hack is the dumbest motherfucker on the planet.
But we knew that.
Duh

Hack's ludicrous, pathetic and feeble performance over the past few days has made it clear that he is an even bigger partisan Hack than GaGa and a total waste of time in any discussion. He is not interested in facts. He's interested only in diversion, deflection and outright lies.
He is TSTTT for sure.
Oh, and did I mention he loves sex with barnyard animals?

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It's been proven to be a VERY safe drug since 1955 doofus. Let the doctors do the doctoring and let the old men drink their warm milk. Now drink up.

If you are capable of reading and understanding anything (doubtful), try reading this.
It's not news that HCQ was approved years ago so stop pretending you just figured that out.  Its efficacy against corona needs to be tested before it's clear the side effects are with the risk.
Simpleton.

Well besides the fact that Trump is for it of course. I Googled the side effects of the drug, and while all of the worst side effects are VERY rare, this one just leaped off the page at me when thinking about just why you are so against this drug.

And, of course I plan on continuing to drink vodka, just as you will continue to drink tequila. And considering the amount of tequila you SAY you drink, you are AT LEAST as vulnerable as I am.
What you ignore is that I don't even NEED HCQ, as I am free of the virus.
Based on what you claim of your activities, you really can't say the same. You are actually in MORE high-risk categories than I am.
You are north of 60, flabby and out of shape and --even worse-- as stupid as Hack. And that's profoundly stupid. Also, your liver is probably in worse shape than mine. It's so bad even Mikey would reject your liver if he needed a transplant. Hell, not only would I reject it as a transplant, I wouldn't dare eat it smothered in onions and bacon. Not to mention all the exposure you've had from your SBs plus walking around a town that, until the last few days, wasn't locked down.
So pardon me if I don't take seriously anything said by Wu The Human Petri Dish.

First of all, how the hell do YOU know Boris is getting HCQ? Because the BBC doesn't. In fact, in the attached article, which is the most extensive on the subject I've seen, HCQ isn't even mentioned. Only oxygen therapy.
Ya know what would be "a game changer?"
If you'd just STFU, you dolt.

...from talking to a few Canadians. LOL

So droll that, in order to find something you thought was witty, you had to go back to an old comment from the other day.
Weak, Hack. Weak.
But I guess you just like to hear your lips flap.
Dimwit

A guy you used to rip for his stupidity and here you are, cuddling the dumbass cuddler again.

"I spoke to some Canadians."  

Trump got his info from medical people as well. That is what led him to talk about it in the first place.

First off, I am barely over sixty, while you were around during the FDR years. I am hardly flabby, and lets compare Texas to NY.

But of course you're desperate to ignore it and don't make the slightest attempt to rebut it. Only come up with lame and repetitive bullshit.
PS: We know you and Wu aren't looking at rings yet. It's impossible with your heads up each other's ass.
Pot/Kettle/Black much?

First of all, I've seen you with your shirt off. You are DEFINITELY flabby so don't lie about it.
Second, can you possibly be so stupid as to think the current numbers of NY and TX can be compared? First of all, NY has feen fighting the virus for MUCH longer. So the TX #s WILL catch up, especially since your state was so lax in waiting to lock down.
As for the "smart people," they are the ones who know I'm in a more rural part of NY than you are of TX. Thus proving you are NOT one of "the smart people."
As if we needed proof.

I recently met a LOT of Canadians who think Trump is the stupidest clown on the planet. But thanks for showing us you are trying to keep up with him.
Hack = Bankrupt.

The most recent field trials in China of your favorite cocktail showed the placebo group did just as well as those who got the actual drugs.
Pinhead.
So ironic you are lecturing others about honesty, when you and your boy do nothing but lie and distort.

Tomorrow, at this rate,  it will be "all Canadians." LOL

You spoke to "some Chinese" on the boat too, right?

Which is just a product of him seeing double when he's drunk, which is ALL the time. lol

How? What are you doing that I am incapable of? Both make up shit, no links. use the the famous Navigator polling Co, talk to "people", ignore facts, ignore logic, ignore math, ignore science, ignore common sense, etc. lol

We were barely jogging down playa Jaco and I suggested that we step up the pace and run full out for the last quarter mile or so, and your response was that "you were already running "full out"" lol

It's your combination of woeful stupidity and baseless arrogance that gets annoying. You are lucky the even stupider and more annoying Hack is here for you to bottom.
I've begged him to wipe your jizz off his chin but he refuses. I guess it would be useless to ask you to quit coming on Hack's face?

But your act is really old and tired. Take a nap.

Partly because you are blind and partly because it's hard for you to see with your head solidly up Laffy's ass.

Don't you get tired of me making you look like a fool?
Please don't make it so easy. It's getting not to be fun.

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I'm sorry for insulting 5th Graders.
What next, a fart sound?
You make Beavis and Butthead seem intelligent.

on the safety issues because I'm not a doctor, but anecdotally, I took hydroxycloroquinine  as a malaria prophylaxis for 6 months in the military when I was deployed to South America in the 80's.  When I returned to the US, I still had firm erections.  At the end of the day, Isn't that the only thing that REALLY matters?

He might have been praying very hard, maybe that is why he is having lung issues.

You are probably the last person in the world who still believes the fucking Chinks. About ANYTHING, much less about the Chink virus.  

First of all no one cares. No one except Hack. He's a major boner-chaser.

I certainly don't believe their "statistics" at all on infections and deaths. They are lying to make it look like they're handling it better. But if you weren't so fucking lazy you could easily go see there are several OTHER international studies calling into question the efficacy of HCQ therapy for COVID.
Calm down and take a smart pill.
Never mind. It's too late.

my focus on why I'm here in the first place.  I'm here to find ladies to service my erectile needs.  Everything else is bonus.  Not talking about it is not going to change anything.  When I log onto TER, I start thinking about fucking beautiful women.  Its hard (no pun intended) to get that our of my mind.   I enjoy the conversation with all of you guys as well.  You are sort of like the fluffers, in an analogous manner of speaking.  Lol

You really are the dumbest jew on the planet. Maybe the dumbest fucking person.

If announcement is made on his recovery, game over the the DS (deep state global cabal).  A big source of funding will be gone from the vaccine makers.

did you know Hack actually IS a fluffer. In male porn.

That would be our little Chink brain donor candidate.
Failed.

because we'll still need a vaccine!
The meds you are vaporing about only work if you're already sick from the disease. NONE of the main tests are about how it may work as a preventive.

Every person I know who has taken it comes down with the flu. It is not wise to take it, imho. Taking at covid-19 vaccine could be dangerous, not recommended.

First of all, google "natural news - Wikipedia". You'll see that it's a discredited web site that wants to sell its own nostrums. Secondly, there are different kinds of vaccines with regard to how they're made. The two most common types that we  have developed for the flu as we know it, are:  (1) attenuated (LAIV) and (2) inactivated (IIV). These use the live organism in a weakened form whereby antibodies are formed by the human host without having to cope with the full infection. One of the side effects however, is that a percentage of those inoculated still get the flu. The other type of vaccine is called a recombinant. The live organism is not used; rather only its DNA. Thus it can't replicate. These are more difficult to produce.
I don't know for sure but I would assume that the work being done on the coronavirus involves the recombinant approach since it is safer.
I wouldn't put down vaccine therapy based on anecdotal accounts. Remember Jenny McCarthy, the soft porn actress turned expert who claimed her son came down with autism after getting vaccinated? she was the toast of daytime TV. And then of course, she miraculously "cured" him via a special diet. To quote Clint Eastwood in Grand Torino "What a load of shit!"

I've gotten the flu vaccine every year for decades. The result? I have never gotten the flu and I've never had a bad reaction to the vaccine. I've also been vaccinated against Pneumonia, Shingles, Tetanus and about another half dozen diseases and have NEVER had a bad reaction.
Enjoy your illnesses.

The Fed bought 29M pills recently in the hope that it could be the cure for all. trump has been quite on this drug recently....now what?
I'm glad some of you aren't doctors.

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