It is a bit cowardly in one sense.  George Bush (the elder) did a great job when he was running against Dukakis of actually turning the word "liberal" into a perjorative.  One has to admire it in the same way one admired Mussolini for getting the trains to run on time.

At any rate, left wingers ran for cover from the label in the nineties and never recovered.

Another way of looking at it is the term doesn't mean anything.  Neither does "conservative" in the political sense.  They are relative to one another.  Ask Ann Coulter (if you can stand to be in the same room as the lying bitch) - she considers McCain too "liberal" which is a surprise to liberals who know McCain is as "conservative" as they come.

As to McCain, I'm certain all of his fellow POWs would agree that he is the kindest, warmest, bravest, most wonderful human being they've ever known.  

I and others have asked this through the ages.  Nadar is about the only one that will still call himself a liberal without a third degree, and he even throws the "progressive" term around sometimes.  I think conservatives should start calling themselves regressive, ungressive or disgressive.  That will make the Liberals spin like tops and combust into flames.  Albeit clean burning flames.

But Freemasons of any ilk should be exempt, of course.

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Care to offer an example instead of a bunch of generalized BS?

I think one reason is that Jesse Jackson has performed a orchiectomy on most if not all of them.


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You mean Obama? I'm the one who said he was a pragmatist. As far as I know, he hasn't said anything about it. His liberal voting record should speak for itself, and I think that's part of his strategy. He's plainly liberal, but it's the liberals now who are getting confused.

About hiding from your true nature, Republican candidates are actually sending out campaign mail that doesn't mention they are Republicans.

It is the labels that get in the way.  I consider myself to be a Theodore Roosevelt republican which basically means that I simply cannot support the current crop of christian taliban, extremist lunatics running today's republican party.

What happened to the fiscal responsibility?  What happened to the marginal libertarianism?  What happened to not wanting government interfering in people's lives?  What happened to allowing business leeway, but regulating abuses?  That's the true "conservative" spirit of the republican party, not the holier than thou, fiscally irresponsible, war-mongering assholes of today's christian taliban.

I guess if I must be saddled with a label, I'd rather be a "tax and spend liberal" than a "spend conservative."

I'm a "liberal" and proud of it, but I'm not a fucking "democrat"!

I'd rather not smear myself with the filth of the current democrap party, sadly the Greens don't stand a chance in hell in this election or any future election... But idealigically, I more like the planks in the Green-platform...


Dems hijacked liberalism back in the 60's to unify a large fractured bottomfeeder-voterbase that sucks from the government-tit, however they have come to be the party that gives little more that lip-service to liberal-ideals as they more covertly seek to corrupt our society into a social-tiered dual-class systems of 'elites and commons'... (At least Republicans are OPEN about their capitalistic desires to divide America into a Noble/pesant structure of "Have's and have-not's"... IMHO the planned-forclosure scam that is currently underway, mixed with the peak-oil price-drive will produce that result in record time... As the redistribution of property become consentrated in the hands of a very few "Elites" who will buy everything for pennies on the dollar, then rent it back to the populous-at-large where they can "control" the masses via threatening their basic needs and squeezing their comforts when they attempt to equally access the bullshit we call the "American-Dream"...