Wasn’t it discussed as something that will be considered later? Like March?

Is the request for expenditures for military to much? What is the reason to not agree for all hard line needs to be met later and not shut down now?  

Shut down is hurting those I know with having there income held. I laugh at how most here like vindictive drink and repentative vile repetive vile against other be the strongest point in those comments.

Get real please, what does it take? I honestly hate beinging an American now, rubbish from both stupid side only caring if they win or can reelecated.

My thought are, get a life, grow big balls, do what best for everyone. Is that too much to ask?

points, most of them any red blooded American could agree with.  But we must remember every bit of our budget has some type of real impact for every voter represented by these politicians.  Am confident nobody wants a government shutdown.

 
That being what it may, the budget itself is a YUGE negotiation and all sides must protect the interests of their constituents through this legislation or gained/lost leverage for future legislation to come.  When Trump scrapped DACA and the republican congress allowed funding for CHIPs to be in jeopardy, Trump himself created this situation.  In the grand scheme of negotiations, this round of legislation negotiation began with Trump reversing initiatives that BOTH parties already agreed to.

 
It would take NOTHING (no effort at all--no political capital at all) for Trump to sign off on DACA and include funding for CHIPS in a continuing resolution.  This is such a benign point that both democrats and republicans agreed to a continuing resolution that include "putting back" what Trump had taken away.  Only the most extreme right had a problem with this bipartisan legislation.

 
With a minor degree of leadership ability and one stroke of the pen, Trump has the ability to please both democrats and republicans and send CR legislation flying through congress like a super sonic jet.

 
Let's see just how long Trump is willing to continue IS government shutdown.

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...is nothing more than he wins or at least that believes he wins, there is nothing more important to Donald Trump than how he sees the fruits of his power & control. For Trump getting his way in any controversial situation makes him king of the hill & the rest of the world be damned, with an egocentric like this in control of the White House we can expect more chaos as long as he is in power,

Trump and the Republicans claim that Obama's executive order on DACA is unconstitutional. Based on that Trump rescinded it, while calling on Congress to legislate a remedy. He has claimed he is in favor of a solution to humanely address these young men and women, who were brought here by their parents, as children, and are here by no fault of their own, most of whom are service members, teachers, lawyers, businessmen and women, etc. There is a significant group in the House who want them deported. And, Mitch McConnell has promised the Democrats, during the last 2 continuing resolution budget negotiations that if they voted for those CR, he would allow bipartisan, addressing a DACA solution, to be discussed on the floor of the Senate, and be voted on. Like with his promise to Susan Collins, to get her vote on the Tax Cut bill, he broke his promise both times. So, the Democrats don't trust him, and believe that need to get whatever leverage they can, while they can, to get the Republicans to move on a solution. And, now there's no reason for them to trust Trump either. Though the deadline for DACA is March, these people are having their lives tremendously impacted by the uncertainty of their future. Regarding the charge that the Dems. are at fault for not funding the military. That is a very old trick Republicans play all the time. Claire Mccaskil has proposed a continuation of funding the Military, much like Obama did, previously, but the Republicans shot it down, in order to hold the military hostage. Bottom-line, the Reps. are in control of the White House, and the Congress, and still can't come up with a full fiscal year budget that they can agree on, let alone negotiate with Democrats to get passed. Many on both sides of the aisle are sick and tired of funding our government through continuing resolutions.

But DACA was agreed to be dealt with by March and it has nothing to do with sustaining our government budget. Keep the government funded to pay those employed and other programs running that will close because of this shutdown.

It all BS to me from both sides posturing who’s the strongest and cares little about those who will be hurt by it. Just find what’s needed and deal with the rest later.

Fuck you all on left right and center LoL it’s comical and makes for good humor everyday seeing all the vile BS spouted here.

...Well im we that contribute to this board should be flattered that you would want fuck us for what we post here most of us usuly ask for a picture first. The DACA Dreamers have been held in limbow since Trump lifted Obama's order protecting them & the promise to create permanant legislation to address their plight has been delayed many times, why lift their protective order before passing that legislation ? The U.S. military or the Pentagon has been showen many many times to be the most irresponsable wasters of our tax dollars, isn't it about time that they be held accountable ?