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9-man 2852 reads
posted
1 / 12


The ACORN accusations are the GOPs excuse to suppress the vote, knocking voters off the rolls prior to election day, or disputing election results afterward. Take a note of these facts:

-ACORN, in almost every state, is required to turn in ALL completed applications, even the ones they know to be problematic.

-ACORN flags incomplete, problem, or suspicious cards when they are turned in, but these warnings are often ignored by election officials. Often these same officials then come back weeks or months later and accuse them of deliberately turning in phony cards.

-ACORN's canvassers are paid by the hour, not by the card, so there is NO incentive for them to falsify cards. ACORN has a zero-tolerance policy for deliberately falsifying registrations, and when their internal controls have identified this they have fired the workers involved and turned them in to election officials and law-enforcement.

Fact: No charges have ever been brought against ACORN itself. Convictions against individual former ACORN workers have been accomplished with ACORN's full cooperation, using the evidence obtained through their quality control and verification processes.

Fact: Voter fraud by individuals is extremely rare, and incredibly difficult. There has NEVER BEEN A SINGLE PROVEN CASE of anyone, anywhere, casting an illegal vote as a result of a phony voter registration. Even if someone wanted to influence the election this way, it would not work.

Fact: Most election officials have recognized ACORN's good work and praised their quality control systems. Even in the cities where election officials have complained about ACORN, the applications in question represent less than 1% of the thousands and thousands of registrations ACORN has collected.

Fact: There is virtually no chance anyone would be able to vote fraudulently, so there is no reason to deliberately submit phony registrations. ACORN is committed to ensuring that the greatest possible numbers of people are registered and allowed to vote, so there is also NO incentive to "disrupt the system" with phony cards.

Fact: Similar accusations were made, and attacks launched, against ACORN and other voter registration organizations in 2004 and 2006. These attacks were not only groundless, they have since been exposed as part of the U.S. Attorney-gate scandal and revealed to be part of a systematic partisan agenda of voter suppression.

Timbow 1647 reads
posted
2 / 12

quote from blog
Hey a accorn rep told me to registar. I asked him if I could registar my dog cat and dead mother. He said right on we have to have Obama elected no matter what. I asked if thie is a danger of getting into trouble? He said no way man they are affraid of us.:)
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The danger is they flood absentee votes and the fradulent ones can slip thru .
People are naive if they think the massive amount of votes will all be checked like the chads in Florida :)Only 600 votes took Florida .
It is done like I shoot doves with  a shotgun spread to the different states and it is organized.
What is the smoke screen is being done by Obama's lawyer saying Bush is getting the FBI to help MAC.
We ran ACORN out of SC :)





-- Modified on 10/21/2008 11:56:39 PM

9-man 1776 reads
posted
3 / 12


How lucky is it that this blogger found the very dumbest ACORN worker, just ready to confess his ACORN's fiendish plot to anybody who registers? It reminds me of a guy arrested for selling cocaine, by being caught standing out on the median yelling "Cocaine for sale!" Except this is dumber.

Voter fraud through registering has to be one of the dumbest crimes I could think of. So the fraudulent ones will just slip through by flooding absentee votes? First of all, if you fill out a false registration its one thing. If you try to vote with it, you'll get caught.

When I show up at the polling place, I have to present a drivers' license and sign my name. So, I have to falsify the ID, too. Sign a different name. So you're talking three felonies there. So to put Obama in office for eight years, our ballot con is taking the risk to serve twenty?

Absentee votes are something else, but there's not a huge number of them. Overwhelming the system so the false ones could slip by isn't a shot gun, it's Russian Roulette. Unlike most other votes, Absentee votes have a paper trail.

Unless you think Obama is going to pardon all the crooks who helped him get in to start his term. Oops! There's 10 weeks between the time the votes are counted and the time Obama takes office. There goes that plan.

Timbow 1076 reads
posted
4 / 12

You need  to look at Ohio and how they had same day registration. All states do not have to have ID .
But you keep believing :)We ran Acorn out of SC two years ago SLED by a probe :)

holeydiver 113 Reviews 915 reads
posted
5 / 12

So what if they are all registered Democrats.  I can't control their political beliefs.  What next?  Suppress the vote of cartoon characters?

jerseyflyer 20 Reviews 1278 reads
posted
6 / 12

Fact: Voter fraud by individuals is extremely rare, and incredibly difficult. There has NEVER BEEN A SINGLE PROVEN CASE of anyone, anywhere, casting an illegal vote as a result of a phony voter registration. Even if someone wanted to unfluence the election this way, it would not work.

Fact: There is virtually no chance anyone would be able to vote fraudently, so there is no reason to deliberately submit phony registrations.

I'm not sure if ACORN was involved, but eight years ago, during the election for the congressman that represents the district encompassing Northeast Philadelphia, the democrat won by 1,900 votes. The republican appealed, citing voter fraud. By the time the case wound it's way through the court system, with delaying tactics by the dems, the 2 year term of the democrat representative was nearly up. Court findings were that 2,350 of the 'occupants' of a cemetary in the Frankford section of the district, near Pennypack Park, had registered, and managed to vote by absentee ballot, all using the street address of the cemetary. So, you should use caution when making general statements about voter fraud. It's a big country, and you aren't everywhere. "Vote early, vote often".

dncphil 16 Reviews 1610 reads
posted
7 / 12

The problem with fake registration is it may be impossible to catch.  If Fred Smith registers listing his address at 123 Main Street, and they go to that street after the election, and he isn't there, you don't know how he voted or whether he was there and moved.  

If there are multiple Fred Smiths, you don't know if it is the same person in six districts or six people.

ACORN has a pattern that makes it very obvious.  They have already had numerous people who admitted it.  Some of the stories, like paying someone cigarettes to register multiple times, make it obvious to anyone that there is something going on with the group.  

little phil 37 Reviews 1878 reads
posted
8 / 12

Your dog, that is.  I spoke with him this morning, and he told me that they Democrat thing was just to fool you, since you buy the food.

Blackbeltxxx 13 Reviews 1409 reads
posted
9 / 12

Where more people below ground vote than people above ground.

Sweatleaf68 5 Reviews 2023 reads
posted
10 / 12

And ther is not enough time anyway. Even if Acorn is proven to have engaged in voter fraud. Then you haver to tie Obama more solidly in. Then you have to prove he or his had knowlegde of the activity.

And in the end its no more damaging than McCains campaign manager being tied in with Freddy. Actually given the price tag and publicity its far less.

Can we please move forward. Acorn was as stupid as McCains VP nominee and probably researched just as much.    

Timbow 1210 reads
posted
11 / 12

deleted pic would post then be taken down.
Imageshack sucks they must love Obama :)
It was that great squirell  picture with the nuts hanging and had his OBAmessiah pic on the face:)with acorn nuts around.



-- Modified on 10/22/2008 1:10:19 PM

holeydiver 113 Reviews 1312 reads
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12 / 12
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