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What the fuck did they inject us with?!?!?!
willywonka4u 22 Reviews 203 reads
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Remember when you were a kid and your parents made you read a book, but scolded you with, “don’t just look at the pictures.” Well, I don’t expect you all to read every sentence in this 65 page study, but at least look at the pictures.

Now mind you I don’t have formal training in this stuff, but I have read a lot of very dense research papers on this topic and this paper is coming off as rather sophomoric. Furthermore, as a hobby I do microscopy. Now I have a pretty budget microscope, but I know the equipment well enough to know you wouldn’t even use a mid grade microscope for a research paper for vaccines. Microscopes have limited resolution. Even with high quality objectives (magnifying lenses), you can only just barely see individual bacteria. Any viral material is much smaller than that. This paper is beginning to look like junk.  

 
I have read quite a few papers about the vaccines having containments, which is what I initially thought this paper was describing. But it sounds to me that they’re using jargon to cover up that they’re insinuating that they found nano-bots in the vaccines. Which, let me tell ya, is bullshit. It makes for creepy science fiction, but it is fiction. We have nano technology to deposit atoms of metals or carbon on things to conduct electricity, but no way do we have anything mechanical on the nano scale.

When you find that there’s something wrong with the science you point it out. Quite frankly the paper is so bad that it’s beginning to look like a deep fake.  

 
Lester, however, pointed out something that has been known for a while, but is a growing field of research. Ivermectin has shown to be useful in treating cancer. I’ve posted this link here years ago.  

“ Abstract
Ivermectin proposes many potentials effects to treat a range of diseases, with its antimicrobial, antiviral, and anti-cancer properties as a wonder drug.”

All you proved (AGAIN) is that you failed to carefully review the article you posted before putting it up.
Is it the Ivermectin that has rotted your brain?
PS: You imply Ivermectin itself is an anti-cancer drug. In fact, it is NOT such a drug when used on its own and only MAY work in concert with another drug. Of course, Wanker did not mention that. This is from the NIH's National Cancer Institute:
"This phase II trial studies the side effects and best dose of ivermectin in combination with pembrolizumab and to see how well they they work in shrinking tumors in patients with triple negative breast cancer that has spread to other places in the body (metastatic). Immunotherapy with monoclonal antibodies, such as pembrolizumab, may help the body's immune system attack the cancer, and may interfere with the ability of tumor cells to grow and spread. Ivermectin may help block the formation of growths that may become cancer. Giving ivermectin with pembrolizumab may increase the effect of pembrolizumab in shrinking tumors in patients with triple negative breast cancer."

Science is not about finding what is true. It is about finding what is false. Scientific research is about trying to prove something false until you can’t anymore. Anyone can do it if they understand how to do it. I use the exact same process when doing repairs on electronics. I have a side gig where I repair audio equipment, mainly guitar amps. You work logically through what the problem is not, in order to narrow down what is the problem. I have an O-scope, function generator and various other lab equipment but 99% of the time I don’t use them because logic works faster.  

 
While is it better to have say a virologist do a peer review of vaccines, a medical doctor or biologist or a chemist can also contribute to a peer review. In fact, it’s better if they do, because there’s too much specialization in science these days, and not enough people who have a broader range of fields they understand. This helps prevent a sort of tunnel vision in the review process.

At least you aren't claiming to have an electron microscope in your basement.

Posted By: willywonka4u
Re: So after spending some time with this paper, some things are looking fishy. Now mind you I don’t have formal training in this stuff, but I have read a lot of very dense research papers on this topic and this paper is coming off as rather sophomoric. Furthermore, as a hobby I do microscopy. Now I have a pretty budget microscope, but I know the equipment well enough to know you wouldn’t even use a mid grade microscope for a research paper for vaccines. ...
(Image below might not load. It's slow. Just go to the website instead.  
http://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/resources/497-the-microscopic-scale )

…of my phone and my scope I can get decent images. I need to upgrade my objectives. This is a rotifer I collected from my birdbath. The blue lens helps with contrast. I can see bacteria, but they just look like little wiggling specs. About the size of a flake of pepper through the scope. A still picture doesn’t do it justice. On video you can see things much better. Tiny movements will make things blurry due to going out of focus as it moves up and down on the sample slide.

Remember how ivermectin was discovered. A Japanese scientist collected soil samples from a golf course. Inspired by the researcher who discovered penicillin, he was looking for other organisms that behaved in a similar way. He found a fungus I believe that released a chemical that was later used to isolate ivermectin. The fungus would release this chemical to prevent other biological agents from attacking it from pests to parasites to bacteria  to viruses to whatever harmful it may encounter. Those same properties could make it useful in treating cancer.  

 
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1043661820315152

 
Ivermectin used to treat breast cancer.

http://www.nature.com/articles/s41523-021-00229-5

 
Ivermectin used to treat ovarian cancer.

http://www.mdpi.com/2079-9721/11/1/49

 
I’ve seen some research on it being used to treat pancreatic and colon cancer too.

Wrong, again. Pasteur said "Life against life" about microorganisms fighting it out in nature and in culture.
Penicillin was discovered in a lab by Fleming in 1928 without a previously planned experiment. It took more than 15 years before penicillin became available for routine use (during WWII, when the research was rushed through).
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Selman Waksman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selman_Waksman had a DELIBERATE research program to search for "life against life" organisms in soils. THAT is the model followed by drug companies and research institutes to find new drugs.

Posted By: willywonka4u
Re: Ivermectin as a cancer treatment.
Remember how ivermectin was discovered. A Japanese scientist collected soil samples from a golf course. Inspired by the researcher who discovered penicillin,

That article says NOTHING about penicillin. That article says nothing about Fleming. It says nothing about Waksman or streptomycin. It says nothing about Kitasato Institute. Where did you get the idea that "A Japanese scientist collected soil samples from a golf course. *****Inspired by the researcher who discovered penicillin,*****"?  
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The technique of surveying soil samples for the output of "life against life" organisms predates Waksman but his success finding streptomycin in 1943 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streptomycin#History by screening soil samples and winning a Nobel Prize for it greatly popularized that method. Drug companies had their own research departments doing it. Company employees were encouraged to bring back soil samples from their hikes and trips to far away places. Long before ivermectin was discovered in 1975 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin#History (using the same Waksman ideas), Parke-Davis discovered chloramphenicol in 1947 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloramphenicol#History , following Waksman's lead, from a soil sample brought back by an employee from a trip to, I think, Venezuela. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streptomyces_venezuelae Chloramphenicol was the first antibiotic to be manufactured synthetically on a large scale. Between streptomycin (1943) and ivermectin (1975), hundreds of other antibiotics have been discovered the same (Waksman) way ... and hundreds more since 1978.

Posted By: willywonka4u
Re: The discovery of Ivermectin led to a Nobel Prize. Try harder IMP.

The ABSTRACT says, "Analyses reported here consist of precise laboratory “bench science” ..." because much (most? all?) of the relevant data is obtained in vitro. RNA is KNOWN for its ability to form extraordinary structures by folding over to form loops and channels and ladders etc. by sticking to itself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA See image from this wiki, below. It is so elaborate and, sometimes, predictable, that there is RNA Origami: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_origami

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