Wanted to start a discussion about the possible impact that the Whitford v. Nichol, No. 15-cv-421 (W.D. Wis. filed July 8, 2015)*1*, over the redistricting tied into WI Act 43 in 2011 (one of the many things scores of WI citizens were at the capitol protesting for weeks, and still singing about in the Rotunda daily), has on current and future redistricting efforts.

Can I get back to you around Memorial day after I have gone through your far left fake news? Toots, you strike me as a Hil-LIAR-y voter. Just a guess. Stop whining about gerrymandering. Do you wacky libtards ever take responsibility for your complete annihilation at the hands of the people? You democRATS got caught rigging the election against the Burn and you could give a shit about that. Fear not cus the Don takes over in 3 weeks. Shit is about to get real. MAGA!

...but she is also an election denier as well. She is the female FG. Gerrymandering, Russian hacks, wikileaks, Comey, etc. everything BUT pointing the finger at the corrupt DNC or Hills.

...seen this (movie) before, but this is only intermission & we can only hope that the damage that Trump causes for our whole world are repairable.

The world is on fire and Bams is slinking out on his belly. He can do a LOT of damage in his last 3 weeks as we have seen recently.

...seen the future liar-in chief trying to play lap-dog to Putin & Netinyoyo both of whom would gut Donny for control of more land & people. This bozo should have never been elected but the fact that he has means we need to speak up when ever we witness his actions that do not serve the united states.

It's hilarious to read these boards.  All of you morons have no clue.  Lefties blame righties, righties blame lefties, blah blah blah.

Can you imagine your post to me if you didn't love me?

Nothing more than hearsay.. can you point to one place where I've ever publicly, or privately, stated the DNC is anything more than a garbage heap? prolly not.... Also, election denier? grow the fuck up douche. True won the electoral college, however, he was the biggest looser of the popular vote in recorded history. So much for a presidential mandate... LMFAO

eat me Donald..

Query how long a system of government goes before it has a near total reformation. The US is about to hit that fault line...

Deal with it.

You don't want to be here anymore, no problem.

How about Aleppo?  Tomorrow at noon?

As polarized as this country has become, it is just a matter of time before one side or the other simply overwhelms at the local and state level. Redistricting has been a de facto facet of partisan politics for as long as there has been partisan politics with a localized and focused power base.

you may want to query the Efficiency Gap in Illinois. (page 882 of the referenced journal article. Wisconsin has an efficiency gap of +12 Republican, and Illinois has an efficiency gap of +2 Democrat. According to the study, a +7 in either direction would be beyond limit (unconstitutional). SO... unless you have anything than "LOOK AT THE PICTURES"... sit down.

derp de derp... a dips hit has no argument... so tranny. holy fuck are you dumb as shit.

...bc you were SO insecure that no one would respond or that they didn't reply fast enough to her highness makes you an impatient fuck. Glad I could educate you on that.

interestingly, California has one of the smallest Efficiency Gaps, as does Illinois... please reference the peer-reviewed article (page 883). States like CA, and IL will have a bias toward Democrats/left-leaning candidates because of the states demographic geography while other states like Michigan are going But I totally agree with you, gerrymandering has been a substantial issue throughout US history, though  to Naturally skew Republican for the same reasons.  

you stupid ass comment doesn't even makes sense.

damage....?  
 
FUCKING CITE IT  

How about Syria? It is now a genocide and crossed Barry's line in the sand and your hero did NOTHING.

except in the few  states that award electoral votes based on Congressional districts,
and Wisconsin is not one of those as far as I know. No one contends that the blatant cracking and packing by the Wis Repubs is why Trump won the election.

You start a thread and 32 minutes later you get you pantyhose in a twist  that there are no replies/comments.

its called starting an intellectual discussion.... sorry that escapes you

Posted By: JackDunphy

...bc you were SO insecure that no one would respond or that they didn't reply fast enough to her highness makes you an impatient fuck. Glad I could educate you on that.  
   
 I am also glad I got you on record saying that the DNC is a "garbage heap" so there was some method to my madness and you accidental fell into my my truth trap. LOL  
   
 I will give you credit FOR uttering the obvious truth as most of the Hills/DNC sycophants here only respond as crickets to the charges that the DNC is corrupt. So a big +1 from me on that.  
   
 BUT, As expected, you dip back into the denial pool for the "adult" swim, when you point to the popular vote. The lib media points it out every day. Sadly for you and them we don't decide our presidency based on that measure but I am sure that won't stop your ilk from mentioning a few thousand more times. LOL  
   
 And feel free to point to my posts as me saying Trump has a mandate. I have said that the Republicans have a MASSIVE mandate as we now control...everything.  
   
 Please keep up with lunacy about rigged elections (they weren't) and gerrymandered districts (they are but both sides do it) as I am sure that will help your delusional party in 2018. Oops. Strike that. Maybe 2020? LOL  
   
 Now expect Conan to weigh in on your biggest "looser" spelling. He is pedantic for sure but to make up for it he is also a putz so you two will have a lot in common. LOL

River and fg would make a great couple. They seem to think alike, post alike, and both would no doubt enjoy the intimacy.

Saved me the trouble of discovering on my own that if your statement is correct then this efficiency gap is pure bullshit.

to Ed's post so maybe I'm wrong as to what the OP is saying.

River calling someone a homo......are River and fg  having a lovers spat.

I can insult you and still be right dipshit. I'm actually indifferent altogether, but if it really makes your ignorant ass feel better, I guess I'm pissed of tranny 🙄

Holy shit.... when did I do that? Haha... like never... "no homo" coming from a lesbian... one would generally come to the conclusion that it's tounge in cheek... guess not 😂

Yeah, no.... I'm a lesbian... an one of the biggest part about that is fucking other women. I mean I like dick, but not to date .

It doesn't award on congresssional districts, but on state level voting districts. It's a common system used to determine winner take all.

It can impact presidential elections as "winner take all" voting often goes by district winners overall. In addition, most of what happens in the US is at the state level, so gerrymandering there influences far more than federal politics.

Same or similar cuck. Make a decision. If you're not aware of exactly what it has, then sit down. It quite demonstrative you don't have a clue what your talking about.

All the efficiency gap happens to be, is a measure of how efficiently one side or the other has been at gerrymandering. Why waste votes if not needed? It's all about risk and also WHO they are working at protecting. The more important and more powerful a politician is, the less risk is taken to protect them. A high gap merely means the gerrymander was taken to an extreme. It actually hurts the "winning" side as more votes than necessary are tied up in the district, unless of course they don't want to take the risk. "Efficiency Gap" a "made up" construct in an attempt to reward the side that does it best. It doesn't require dozens of pages and links to explain, so please stop with all your holier than thou, ivory tower bullshit.

Based on your post you are clearly living in an alternate universe.
But more likely Uranus.  That's where ur head is.
Feliz ano nuevo, pera!

Like many of us here, I consider myself to be a lesbian trapped in a man's body.
Feliz ano nuevo, pera!

“a proper tool to determine if partisan gerrymandering is happening.”  

I think the word you are looking for is "perra" Perra, not "pera"  

Who are you the Conan of China? LOL

AND the fact that he misspells the word EVERY time, I can only conclude he doesn't know how to spell it.

As I explained earlier, the degree to which some districts are "over sampled" depends also upon the degree of risk desired and the importance or power of the person being protected. But maybe sometimes the boundary makers just aren't as good at math as they could be. A better tool for quantifying their efforts might be welcomed.  It is still true though that a district with a bigger than required gap is typically creating another district that is woefully short of its own allegiance voters, thus potentially creating an opposition district. These redistricting efforts typically are NOT about dominating the state. They are usually about protecting individual power brokers.

I gladly leave you to be alone with your misconceptions and unwilling to hear an opposing view.

Not only is she bossy and ignorant, but a hate merchant and conspiracy theorist to boot.

Ever hear a cat get strangled?  My "Italian" works better than that shit. LMAO!

and do it in countries where virtually nobody speaks English. Try wandering around Quito Ecuador or Valencia Venezuela with your bad Italian and see where it gets you. Costa Rica is like Cancun or Cabo, try going to a non tourist country and then get back to me about how well you communicate.

again, please read the peer-reviewed article, as well as other articles, referenced in the OP. They literally answer all of this.
 

dumbass, Ive actually read everything cited. You clearly haven't, so by the very definition of the word (I've conveniently added the definition for you) thats impossible. Don't use words you clearly don't understand; you make yourself look, well, ignorant. And again, you have provided a god damn bit to refute what that paper clearly states.

I'll try again.

What did electronic voting machines have to do with gerrymandering? And what did that have to do with flipping the state red for the general? You really have no clue and are just filled with hate for anyone on the other side.

that may be more accurate. Plus I don’t think the OP understands what we mean by “peer review.”  The efficiency gap theory has yet to be the subject of meaningful peer review where it is compared to the other methods. It is just too new and has yet to be widely tested against a sufficient sample of elections. And the defense did not challenge the admissibility of the experts' opinion in the Wisconsin case, so as I said in earlier post,  it is still an open question whether this theory will even be admissible when a proper Daubert challenge is made.

you presented a point of view devoid of supporting fact. shut up.

bullshit it hasn't been peer reviewed. Its in 4 different journals. do your research. Also, when any other test comes anywhere near the p values of the efficiency gap, I'll pay attention to it.

Or those that agree with you.  Thanks for clarifying that you are closed minded and not interested in the possibility of a singular thought.