Politics and Religion

Closing Arguments Monday In The Political Prosecution Officer Kimberly Potter
cks175 52 Reviews 700 reads
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1 / 25

Her emotional testimony on the stand was very impactful and I don’t see a jury unanimously voting to convict her for a simple accident.

  This case belongs in a civil court, and Brooklyn Center should be the defendant. Physical, on hands training provided to Potter and the other officers on the force was inadequate.  No surprise that a criminal prosecution was pursued, given that cop-hating radical, Keith Ellison, with past ties to the Nation of Islam, ordered the prosecution.

Hpygolky 234 Reviews 30 reads
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2 / 25
cks175 52 Reviews 17 reads
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3 / 25

Sorry, I’ll try to get a better jury breakdown in the next trial.

The Potter jury is majority white, and notably less diverse than the jury that convicted Officer Chauvin during the George Floyd trial.
MINNEAPOLIS — A mostly white jury was seated Friday for the trial of a white suburban Minneapolis police officer who said she drew her handgun by mistake when she fatally shot Black motorist Daunte Wright following a traffic stop.

Nine of the first 12 jurors seated for Kim Potter's trial are white — roughly in line with the demographics of surrounding Hennepin County, but notably less diverse than the jury that convicted former Minneapolis Officer Derek Chauvin this spring in the death of George Floyd

RespectfulRobert 16 reads
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4 / 25

Police officers are usually much more reserved and stoic on the stand and tend to defend the actions they take re: shootings but this cop did not. She basically threw herself on the mercy of the jury with many mea culpas and apologies. Her highly emotional testimony may go a long way in convincing the jury that she has been punished enough, or like you state, that she is human and just made a tragic mistake.  
Where I think you go off base is saying, or implying, she shouldn't have been charged. She committed a careless, reckless act and someone was killed as a result. And it wasn't like she was a rookie on her first day or first week. She had decades of experience and that could very well hurt her. Had they charged her with murder, you would have a better case, but the charge of manslaughter seems about right. No, this is something a jury needed to sort through.  
This may end up being a case of jury nullification though as the facts are not in dispute. I will not be surprised to see an acquittal or a hung jury, however. I just don't know how much weight the jury will give to her extraordinarily poignant testimony. It may play very well with some jurists.

inicky46 61 Reviews 26 reads
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5 / 25

Yes, Potter's testimony may have been "impactful" and could get her off but please explain to the class how the training provided to Potter was "inadequate?" Does ChicKenShit know anything about her training?  Isn't it just as likely she as an individual utterly failed under pressure? As for who ordered the prosecution, how could ANY public official not do so? It was NOT "a simple accident." It was a criminal failure under pressure to follow procedure and training.
Once again, ChicKenShit proves himself to be a rabid political hack and a....

cks175 52 Reviews 21 reads
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6 / 25

 please explain to the class how the training provided to Potter was inadequate
The best way to address this topic, in relation to the trial, is to focus on what was presented to the jury as far as training goes.

The jury was presented with testimony that police officers did received physical hands-on training with regards to drawing their firearm while under stress. But what they never exercised were stress situations where they had to choose between either a gun draw or a taser draw. The extent of that training boiled down to an oral caution to be careful to draw the correct device. An oral warning in a classroom environment can in no way replicate the stress of a lethal force situation out in the streets.

Now onto the matter of whether criminal charges should have been filed at all. Robert pointed out that he believed that manslaughter charges were justified. But big picture, the possibility of accidental discharge, even resulting in death, is a risk we take as a society when we choose to arm human beings, prone to error, with deadly weapons as a requirement of employment.  It was the responsibility of the police department, through training and reinforcement, to minimize the chance of accidental discharge. As noted in the paragraph above, it was the police department that failed to provide adequate training on taser vs firearm draw situations, and this tragic case should be settled in civil court.

inicky46 61 Reviews 10 reads
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7 / 25

So how anyone could think no crime was committed only proves ChicKenShit is a complete righty hack. Just like how anyone could look at the tapes from Jan. 6 and say, "Just some tourists out for a stroll through the Capitol."
You can't have an intelligent conversation with them.

RespectfulRobert 37 reads
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8 / 25

Thats reasonable to you? Her hand gun was on her dominant side (right) and the Taser was on her left. In addition both guns look and feel vastly differently. You only blaming the training absolves her, and all her vast experience, to the contrary. I don't know how the jury will decide, but if it is fact based only, she is in trouble. Her hope is they base their decision on the emotion of the situation.

cks175 52 Reviews 15 reads
posted
9 / 25

whether a crime was committed or not.

So how anyone could think no crime was committed
The defense, prosecutors and defendant have all admitted that what happened was a tragic mistake. What remains to be seen is whether the jury will agree with the defense team’s opinion that it was non-criminal, or agree with the prosecution that it was criminal.

cks175 52 Reviews 28 reads
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10 / 25

My longer reply is sitting in moderation, but I would contend that the stress of the situation (what you’re referring to as “emotion”) absolutely factors in to a finding of guilt or innocence.

cks175 52 Reviews 19 reads
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11 / 25

Her hand gun was on her dominant side (right) and the Taser was on her left. In addition both guns look and feel vastly differently.
It’s a natural reaction for a person to go to their dominant side. And it’s true she received no hands on training or practice in defaulting to her non-dominant side under pressure.

The taser she was issued was much more similar to her firearm in both color and weight than it was to the previous department issued taser that was bright yellow and bulkier.

Hpygolky 234 Reviews 16 reads
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13 / 25

Being a veteran and a training officer, she choke. Her crying might sway the jury..but what gets me is that she didn't call for help..she sat on the curb crying her eyes out. And not knowing her gun from a taser, how qualified was she? She'll probably get off, and this kids family will clean up on a civil suit.
So she's going to defund that police dept of that city...that's fresh.
By the way, anyone see the Edith Bunker look on her??

cks175 52 Reviews 15 reads
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14 / 25

She'll probably get off, and this kids family will clean up on a civil suit.
Agree on that. Won’t the civil settlement be covered by insurance though?

Hpygolky 234 Reviews 12 reads
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15 / 25

Most likely, but if the settlement is proportionally high then the city might be in for some...and there's no reforming that.

KCMOSHYGUY 11 Reviews 23 reads
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16 / 25

I don't know anything about what's involved in police weapons training, but one thing I thought about is the natural inclination to use your dominant hand/arm.  I would think training would involve acclimating yourself to use both equally, & that the gun would be paired with your dominant hand/arm.  In other words, if you're right-handed, you would shoot a gun with that hand.  But putting the training aside, I just wonder if the normal instinct to use a dominant hand/arm might've played a factor in the shooting.

cks175 52 Reviews 19 reads
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18 / 25

 I just wonder if the normal instinct to use a dominant hand/arm might've played a factor in the shooting.
I think it did factor in. I think in a high stress situation that muscle memory would kick in and that led to her drawing the weapon with her right hand.

inicky46 61 Reviews 13 reads
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19 / 25

I've you've ever been in a high-stress situation it's quite possible for training to fail, especially if you've never been in such a situation before. Had she, or not? A quick search didn't turn up anything.

inicky46 61 Reviews 9 reads
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20 / 25

but once the kid started to struggle and resist, it became high stress.

cks175 52 Reviews 6 reads
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21 / 25

Once the kid (wanted on a weapons related warrant) started to struggle and resist…

LostSon 43 Reviews 17 reads
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22 / 25

Whatever Daunte Wright's family gets out of whoever in the form of settlements? The victims of his criminal past are already suing the family.  

Sooo all you on here saying she should fry? Micro in thread pole time...

 
How many of you think she intentionally shot this kid and then tried to cover it up as an accident? I bet Laffy DOES.

I vote that she made a mistake and did it without malace.

inicky46 61 Reviews 10 reads
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23 / 25

Tell us where I said any of that garbage you spouted.

cks175 52 Reviews 18 reads
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24 / 25

The entire panel seemed to be saying the prosecution had a tough hill to climb, but one focused on the framing of the prosecution’s argument. They basically conceded it was an accident, but have boxed themselves into a position that relies on them proving that Potter “consciously” made the mistake. All the defense has to do to obtain a not guilty verdict is convince the jury that Potter’s pistol draw was an unfortunate, tragic, unconscious reaction.

LostSon 43 Reviews 19 reads
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25 / 25

Posted By: cks175
Re: Closing Arguments Ongoing. MSNBC Pundit Faults Prosecutor  
The entire panel seemed to be saying the prosecution had a tough hill to climb, but one focused on the framing of the prosecution’s argument. They basically conceded it was an accident, but have boxed themselves into a position that relies on them proving that Potter “consciously” made the mistake. All the defense has to do to obtain a not guilty verdict is convince the jury that Potter’s pistol draw was an unfortunate, tragic, unconscious reaction.
Which despite the lefts screaming (must pander to the woke mob) assertions, yeah this was a tragic mistake.

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