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Typical liberals....
Hpygolky 233 Reviews 578 reads
posted
1 / 29

Howard Miller is closing its operations, with production ceasing at the end of 2025 and the company fully winding down in 2026. The closure is due to a combination of factors, including tariffs, inflation, a struggling housing market, and rising interest rates.
The shoes are beginning to drop for small to mid size companies  
Gee…. Who didn’t see this coming 🤔🤔🤔
Let’s see the spin begin… “it was run by a left wing antifa owner”. “They were Woke”….”DEI,DEI…”
Blah, blah … blah

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 87 reads
posted
4 / 29
impposter 49 Reviews 64 reads
posted
5 / 29

Timeless? Au contraire ... Whoever owns this "has all the time in the world".

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Re: Created this timeless piece of art …

crsm27 32 Reviews 110 reads
posted
6 / 29

You are talking about a niche item, an expensive item, one that is basically a one purchase and "done" type item, etc....

 
But you want to BLAME tarrifs..... BUT the snipped includes a COMBINATION OF FACTORS..... inflation, struggling housing market, rising interest rates..... and leaves out prices of clocks!!!    Also many people from the 2010-present were not buying grandfather clocks.   They were things that people were offering to leave in households.   If you went to auctions you could pick them up for "cheap" compared to years past.   IE:  people were not in the market for Grandfather Clocks..... Could that be apart of the issue as well.    BUT NO you want to say it is tariffs.    When in the snippet you posted it even stated other factors.

 
This is why people say liberals, liberal media, etc is biased bullshit.    This is why I say.... ALL MEDIA is biased bullshit.    I will say it again... ALL MEDIA.   They all push a narrative.

inicky46 61 Reviews 58 reads
posted
7 / 29

You say, "But you want to BLAME tariffs" when what his post actually says is, "The closure is due to a combination of factors, including tariffs, inflation, a struggling housing market, and rising interest rates."
Talk about "biased bullshit."

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 57 reads
posted
8 / 29

So it was the TARIFFS and INFLATION is when you lost it.....
And the company did have unique client base which it cultivate over 100 years...till the trump's economy kick its ass.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 79 reads
posted
9 / 29
crsm27 32 Reviews 82 reads
posted
10 / 29

Trumps economy for 8 months?   That is what "killed" this business???

 
You two can't understand that other factors come into play other than just TARIFFS.   Yet want to blame TARIFFS and TRUMP.

 
When the article states:  Inflation (+4 years of it), housing market, interest rates, etc.   But yeah.... just Trump and tariffs are the issue.

 
Not that it is a niche market, slow market, flooded market, expensive market, high dollar item market, millennials are not buying that stuff market, etc.  

 
Many realtors when staging a home will tell people to take out grandfather clocks because it "ages" a home.    But yeah.... ignore trends.  

jazzman121847 111 Reviews 79 reads
posted
11 / 29

You should read Nicky's post again and take notes.  We understand it's not only trump's tariffs, but you can't seem to understand that. Why is that? Oh yeah. Touchy, touchy, touchy.

crsm27 32 Reviews 98 reads
posted
12 / 29

NO.... you and others keep trying to blame TRUMP and tariffs.   Be honest with yourself.

 
You ignore all the other factors.   You are the ones not being honest.   It is why I keep bring it up..... OVER AND OVER.   It isn't being touchy it is bringing facts and TRUTH to posts.  

 
But you know this and just don't want to admit it.

jazzman121847 111 Reviews 90 reads
posted
13 / 29

Nicky got it right about your apparent lack of reading comprehension. We have all stipulated that there are other economic factors at play besides tariffs. Tariffs may be pushing companies over the cliff, but other economic variables may have brought them to the edge of the cliff. But all do is come to the defense of trump's ill-advised and economically damaging tariffs.

crsm27 32 Reviews 93 reads
posted
14 / 29

Really......   READ the title of this Thread.   Thanks for playing..... it says TARIFFS.... nothing else.

 
So you and others want to blame tariffs as the key factor.    But also ignore ALL the other factors.  Main ones are 5 years of inflation, increase in labor costs, insurance increases, etc.  What else has happened and was implemented in many states in 2024/2025..... Minimum wage increases to +$15.  Which increases other wages, work comp insurance, taxes, etc.   I saw a distillery that was wanting to blame tariffs for it having to layoff workers.   It was in CA.   But in the article it also talked about how they imported new Automated systems....TO CONTROL LABOR COSTS....hmmmm.    

 
Like I mentioned about MN new paid leave tax.... yeah.   That is going to cripple small business.  Especially when employees start to use it and leave employers high and dry for 12 weeks.   That is 1/5 of the year they can be "gone" from work with paid leave.   But yeah that wont "hurt" small business at all.

jazzman121847 111 Reviews 94 reads
posted
15 / 29

Once again the text of the original post and subsequent posts noted a combination of factors including tariffs. Maybe you should read more carefully and try to comprehend what is written. I know you are exceedingly stubborn, but your extreme obstinance makes me question your intelligence.

crsm27 32 Reviews 108 reads
posted
17 / 29

But you ignore the whole fact that the OP was a knock on TARIFFS.... got it.

 
But yeah.    He has also ignored in another thread when I called him out when I said "deals are happening".  He said "what deals".... and I posted a link with them.   Hell I didn't even know about some that happened.

 
But again..... you leftists ignore all of this.   The main reasons why things are closing is LABOR COSTS, INFLATION.  Those are the two driving costs.    You know why Auto insurance is increasing so much.   It is because of labor costs to repair.  Nobody is in the business of repairing vehicles.  body shops are disappearing, and they can charge what they want.  They can't find help, are backed up for months, etc.   People want to blame "tariffs" or availability on parts.... NOPE it is labor costs driving it.    But yeah.... ignorance is bliss for the left.

jazzman121847 111 Reviews 83 reads
posted
18 / 29

Touchy, touchy, touchy. I find nothing blissful about your tacit ignorance in defense of trump's tariffs.

crsm27 32 Reviews 83 reads
posted
19 / 29

I find it blissful in your ignorance of everything else when it comes to business, economy, and the likes.

 
How all you see is ORANGE MAN BAD.     But yeah.... keep showing a liberals true colors and calling me ignorant but can't refute my talking points and how the OP was trying to say it was all about the "tariffs" like he as in every other single post when talking about businesses closing.

 
How as I brought up about this product.  How it is a niche, outdated, etc. product.  How in the real estate industry they are saying to take out these pieces of furniture prior to selling a home because it will hurt marketing.    Now myself I like grandfather clocks and the look of them.   But it isn't the "trend".    It isn't "tariffs" that is making this business "close" down.    It is market trends, labor costs, and the other things mentioned.

jazzman121847 111 Reviews 85 reads
posted
20 / 29

Touchy, touchy, touchy.  Good grief, man. Stop making a fool of yourself.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 66 reads
posted
21 / 29
inicky46 61 Reviews 60 reads
posted
22 / 29
jazzman121847 111 Reviews 77 reads
posted
23 / 29

Roger that. Plus I think he's trying to imitate the trump "weave". It plays well with his MAGA buddies at the end of bar, but not here where he gets pushback.

crsm27 32 Reviews 55 reads
posted
24 / 29

Three guys proving the stereotype correct.

 
Name calling, insulting and what not.     They can't refute the point I have been making and they all want to "BLAME TARIFFS".   When it is many other factors.  Proven over and over again.  Especially with niche markets.  Especially with grandfather clocks.  Even if they have been around for 100 years.   Bring up industry examples of how one HUGE industry says to take them out of homes when you put them up for sale.  Bring up how you can find them for pennies on the dollar out on the market.  Bring up the price rang on them.  The article even states other factors.... YET THE TITLE OF OP is only tariffs.

 
Liberals being liberals.... trying to insult me and showing their true selves.

inicky46 61 Reviews 62 reads
posted
25 / 29

This is why you get ridiculed and have zero credibility here.

crsm27 32 Reviews 119 reads
posted
26 / 29

You have no credibility until you admit that it isn't Tariffs driving businesses to close.    

 
It is 5+ years of increase costs.   Be it insurance, utilities, taxes, rents, interest rates, wages, property taxes, work comp, government fees, licenses, permits, etc.   Everything has exploded in the past 5 years.

 
People want a scape goat....and the scape goat is TARIFFS and ORANGE MAN BAD.    Tariffs haven't had a chance to take hold...... YET!!!!   I have said it before and will say it again.   We are right now going to see if they have.   I haven't.... prices are all the same or status quo.   Appliances, cars, food (beef is up not because of tariffs), lumber, etc.... all are not "going up".   Sorry hasn't happened.   Now still in a wait and see because the trade deals need to reach fulfillment (building on US Soil).  The Fed Chair came out and stated that the GDP is good BUT warned that tariffs could affect job growth.  Cited two studies because the number reflect they were this way the past 40 years.... one was the dot-com bubble and the other was Covid.   Both anomalies.   Dot-com was cheap money and people were throwing money at anything dot-com related.   Covid.... well that nobody could for see.   So unless people shove money into AI as fast as they can (He gave the warning not too) and unless there is another "planned demic".   We should be good.    The Chair even stated like I did.... building on US Soil stuff....ie: jobs.

 
But I digress.

inicky46 61 Reviews 55 reads
posted
27 / 29

Please go back and read the entire thread again, fool.
Then come back and apologize,
Jesus!

crsm27 32 Reviews 57 reads
posted
28 / 29

Nope...... you insult and you blame tariffs.   You want to BLAME TRUMP for anything and everything bad.    You do it all the time.    

 
You keep saying.... YOU MISSED THE BODY OF THE POST.....where it states the other things.    I didn't miss the body of the post.    I pointed out how the title and the narrative of the OP didn't fit THE TRUTH.  The narrative is TARIFFS BAD.... TARIFFS BLAME.... ORANGE MAN BAD.    Which isn't the case or truth   The body of the post and the crux of it all is niche market, high priced product, interest rates of homes/homes not selling, used market of product is cheap or FREE to get, etc.   Yet..... you and others want narrative to be TARIFFS.  When the truth of it all is 100 other things than tariffs is why they are closing the doors.  

So you go and apologize for pushing a bullshit narrative and for insulting me.   HAVE A GOOD DAY.

inicky46 61 Reviews 48 reads
posted
29 / 29

"You say, 'But you want to BLAME tariffs' when what his post actually says is, 'The closure is due to a combination of factors, including tariffs, inflation, a struggling housing market, and rising interest rates.'
Talk about 'biased bullshit.'"
Game, set and match.
You can apologize any time now.
But you won't.
Hack.
Also a whiner. "Waaaaahhhh. You called me nasty names!!! Waaaaahhhh!!!"

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