Politics and Religion

Enough with mean spirited Rhetoric. We need Dialog, not a new Tower of Babel
Just STFUandgetReal 8109 reads
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Any and EVERY time anyone posts something highlighting either a positive aspect to the Democratic platform, or a negative aspect of the Republican platform, BOOM!!! The brainwashing effectiveness of Fox News Network and their counterparts in the Liberal News Media manifest themselves.

Is there ANYONE here on this board who considers themself a Republican, a Conservative, or a Bush supporter who is willing and able to have a rational and reasonable discussion and dialog about the issues without falling into the time-worn tradition of bad mouthing a la Coulter & O'Reilly, or invoking the Great Satan Clinton a la Limbaugh?
Is there ANYONE here on this board who considers themself a
Democrat, a Liberal, or a Kerry supporter who is willing and able to have a rational and reasonable discussion and dialog about the issues without falling over themselves trying to prove Republican corruption & racism a la Franken & Stern(although, you got to admit, Howard does a good job of cutting up EVERYONE!)?

I mean, really. Just look at how odious the political arena has become. The politicians are revealed as beholden to special interests. They themselves are revealed as mere puppets on a string. Bush is oily. Kerry is greasy. And Nader is as out of date as a Corvair. DUH!!!WE ALREADY KNOW THAT!!!

I don't expect us to agree on many things, but we are all here because we share something in common.... WE LOVE TO FUCK!!!!! Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Socialists, et al,
EVERY political spectrum is represented on this board. So this means we can all agree on something. That's a heck of a start, and puts us one up on the Middle East.

Now, since we know we are in agreement on ONE thing, why can't we expand that communal energy to discuss our political differences with the same levels of intelligence and sensitivity with which we laud our favorite providers? Why must we lose all sense of rational thought whenever a hot topic button is pushed?

I say Kerry - You say flip flopping Catholic Baby Killer traitor
I say Bush - you say dumbass corrupt Cheney puppet Oil Energy whore

ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't want a fight, or an argument. I want a real, rational, thought provoking dialog about the issues. A dialog where any Democrat, Green Party, Libertarian, Naderite, Peace & Freedom, Republican, or Zoroastrian can participate in a rational dialog of the issues. The only rule is you can't invoke negativity about the opposing view, nor can you invoke negative comments about any former or current political candidate. In other words, stick to the topic. Present your perspective, your reasons and rationale for the issues at hand. The candidates won't tell us a damned thing beyond whats wrong with the other guy. I say we can rise above the fray, elevate ourselves above the teeming masses of unintelligible spin doctors, and present a reasoned point by point rationale for our perspectives.

Parroting Fox News Network or National Public Radio is good for nothing but illustrating your own lack of independent thinking.

I'm off on a half dozen tangents here...

Never before in American history have the people of this country been so completely polarized by political energies.
Whether you realize it or not, the enmity caused by polarization is tearing this country apart at the seams.
My own family was schizmatically torn apart because of severe dysfunction caused by RELIGIOUS and POLITICAL differences.
Read that last sentence again. FAMILY TORN ASUNDER. So if a single, very very close knit family bound together by the deepest emotional ties can be ripped apart because of political and religious differences, how much worse will it be when the rift between the two primary philosophical camps reaches critical mass and tears this country apart?

It's the story of the Tower of Babel all over again.

... not everybody is reasonable all the time.  I like to think I am pretty reasonable.  Others are too.  

Harry

He came on the show and basically said "Stop hurting the country" to both hosts. He blames the mainstream media for building up the dichotomy, pitting extreme left versus extreme right with no middle ground made available. The end result is that we never get any reasonable dialogue. (The hosts were NOT amused, BTW.)

I think it's a sign of the times. We're used to so much hype and sensationalism in every arena - sports, movies, religion, you name it. It's only natural that it would spill over into politics. Reasonable dialogue does not get good ratings.

I'm a centrist leaning towards Kerry, and I will vote for Kerry this election. I'm not a fan of many Bush policies, but I won't beat up my neighbor for putting up a Bush/Cheney yard sign. In fact, I'll probably have a beer with him on Nov 3, regardless of who wins (we'll know by early 2005, most likely!).

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