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Here's what the Times says:
"Israel attacked Iran early on Friday morning, Israel's defense minister said, raising fears of an all-out war between two of the most powerful militaries in the Middle East.

Neither the scale of the attack, nor the damage it caused was immediately clear. The strike was expected to prompt swift retaliation from Iran, likely involving a large barrage of ballistic missiles comparable to that Iran fired during similar escalations last year.

The defense minister, Israel Katz, described the attack as a “pre-emptive strike” and declared a special emergency across Israel, saying a counterattack “is expected in the immediate time frame.” Sirens rang out in Jerusalem and other cities.

Residents of Tehran, the Iranian capital, reported hearing huge explosions, and an Iranian senior official said fighter jets had taken off to intercept the Israeli warplanes.

Mohammad Jamali was standing on a roof in Tehran near Chitgar lake when he saw what appeared to be two jets moving fast and attacking nearby military bases.  “What I can see is two massive flames and smoke coming from two military bases in eastern Tehran,” he said.

The attack came as the United States was leading efforts to negotiate an agreement with Tehran that would limit Iran’s ability to produce nuclear weapons and a day after the International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog, censured Iran for not complying with its nuclear nonproliferation obligations.

The Israeli strike followed months of disagreement between President Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel over how to handle Iran. Mr. Netanyahu has long proposed using military force to derail Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

On Thursday, Mr. Trump said again that he did not want Israel to launch an attack, predicting that doing so would scuttle the chance of a diplomatic solution. “I think it would blow it,” he said. Then he added a nod to the other side of the equation, saying that an attack “might help it, actually, but it could also blow it.”

Several months ago, Mr. Trump waved off an Israeli plan to strike at Iran, insisting that he wanted a chance to negotiate a deal with Tehran. Two weeks ago, Mr. Trump said that he had warned Mr. Netanyahu against launching a strike while the United States was negotiating with Iran.

Those talks faltered in recent weeks, however, and it was unclear how much effort Mr. Trump had made to prevent this latest attack.

The strike did not come as a surprise.

The Israeli government damaged the Iranian air defense system during its attacks on Iran last year and had planned for months to take advantage of Tehran’s weakness to mount further attacks. Anticipating a regional escalation, the United States withdrew diplomats from Iraq on Wednesday and authorized the voluntary departure of families of U.S. soldiers posted elsewhere in the Middle East. A British government agency also warned on Wednesday of an escalation that could pose greater risks to ships in the Persian Gulf.

The attack was among the most brazen moves in a decades-long struggle between Israel and Iran that, until last year, was usually conducted through covert and undeclared operations. For years, Iran has funded regional militias that oppose Israel’s existence and has carried out clandestine attacks on Israeli infrastructure and interests. Israel, which is believed to be the Middle East’s only nuclear-armed nation, sees Iran’s nuclear program as an existential threat and has long carried out its own covert attacks on Iran’s nuclear program, scientists and other infrastructure.

The shadow war spilled out into the open after the Iran-backed armed group that has long ruled Gaza, Hamas, attacked Israel on Oct. 7, 2023, leading to both the war in Gaza and a broader regional confrontation pitting Israel against Iran and its proxies, including Hezbollah in Lebanon, armed groups in Iraq and the Houthi rebels in Yemen.

Israel’s strike on an Iranian-controlled compound in Syria in April 2024 prompted Tehran to fire a huge barrage of missiles at Israel. Iran launched a similar assault last fall after Israel assassinated Ismail Haniyeh, a Hamas leader, as he visited Iran last summer, and then killed Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah.

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Maggie Haberman
June 12, 2025, 8:20 p.m. ET8 minutes ago
Maggie Haberman

While U.S. officials believed such an Israeli strike could be imminent, it has not been clear what President Trump had said directly to Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, in recent days. But Trump made clear earlier today that, while he knew a strike was possible, he did not favor Israel going forward while the administration was still trying to negotiate a deal to contain Iran’s nuclear program.

Farnaz Fassihi
June 12, 2025, 8:16 p.m. ET12 minutes ago
Farnaz Fassihi

A senior Iranian official said that Tehran had been attacked. The official said that Iranian fighter jets had taken off and that Israeli planes were attacking Iran.

Farnaz Fassihi
June 12, 2025, 8:15 p.m. ET14 minutes ago
Farnaz Fassihi

Over 1,000 Iranians were listening to a live town hall discussion, on the social media app Clubhouse, about diplomacy with the United States when the strikes began. One participant, Farhad Khorrami, said he lives in Tehran and that the sky was lighting up and the sounds of blasts were coming back to back.

Ephrat Livni and Aaron Boxerman
June 12, 2025, 8:11 p.m. ET17 minutes ago
Ephrat Livni and Aaron Boxerman

Israel’s defense minister, Israel Katz, said that Israel had made a “preemptive strike” against Iran and declared a special emergency across Israel. A missile and drone attack against Israel and its civilian population “is expected in the immediate timeframe,” he said.

Sirens began ringing out in Jerusalem and other cities.

Farnaz Fassihi
June 12, 2025, 8:07 p.m. ET21 minutes ago
Farnaz Fassihi

Residents of Tehran reported hearing the sound of back-to-back explosions that rattled windows and shook the ground."

RespectfulRobert309 reads

CNN does not the extent of the attack or the targets. Is this the nuke site strike? Unknown.

Here's what the Times says:
"Israel attacked Iran early on Friday morning, Israel's defense minister said, raising fears of an all-out war between two of the most powerful militaries in the Middle East.

Neither the scale of the attack, nor the damage it caused was immediately clear. The strike was expected to prompt swift retaliation from Iran, likely involving a large barrage of ballistic missiles comparable to that Iran fired during similar escalations last year.

The defense minister, Israel Katz, described the attack as a “pre-emptive strike” and declared a special emergency across Israel, saying a counterattack “is expected in the immediate time frame.” Sirens rang out in Jerusalem and other cities.

Residents of Tehran, the Iranian capital, reported hearing huge explosions, and an Iranian senior official said fighter jets had taken off to intercept the Israeli warplanes.

Mohammad Jamali was standing on a roof in Tehran near Chitgar lake when he saw what appeared to be two jets moving fast and attacking nearby military bases.  “What I can see is two massive flames and smoke coming from two military bases in eastern Tehran,” he said.

The attack came as the United States was leading efforts to negotiate an agreement with Tehran that would limit Iran’s ability to produce nuclear weapons and a day after the International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog, censured Iran for not complying with its nuclear nonproliferation obligations.

The Israeli strike followed months of disagreement between President Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel over how to handle Iran. Mr. Netanyahu has long proposed using military force to derail Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

On Thursday, Mr. Trump said again that he did not want Israel to launch an attack, predicting that doing so would scuttle the chance of a diplomatic solution. “I think it would blow it,” he said. Then he added a nod to the other side of the equation, saying that an attack “might help it, actually, but it could also blow it.”

Several months ago, Mr. Trump waved off an Israeli plan to strike at Iran, insisting that he wanted a chance to negotiate a deal with Tehran. Two weeks ago, Mr. Trump said that he had warned Mr. Netanyahu against launching a strike while the United States was negotiating with Iran.

Those talks faltered in recent weeks, however, and it was unclear how much effort Mr. Trump had made to prevent this latest attack.

The strike did not come as a surprise.

The Israeli government damaged the Iranian air defense system during its attacks on Iran last year and had planned for months to take advantage of Tehran’s weakness to mount further attacks. Anticipating a regional escalation, the United States withdrew diplomats from Iraq on Wednesday and authorized the voluntary departure of families of U.S. soldiers posted elsewhere in the Middle East. A British government agency also warned on Wednesday of an escalation that could pose greater risks to ships in the Persian Gulf.

The attack was among the most brazen moves in a decades-long struggle between Israel and Iran that, until last year, was usually conducted through covert and undeclared operations. For years, Iran has funded regional militias that oppose Israel’s existence and has carried out clandestine attacks on Israeli infrastructure and interests. Israel, which is believed to be the Middle East’s only nuclear-armed nation, sees Iran’s nuclear program as an existential threat and has long carried out its own covert attacks on Iran’s nuclear program, scientists and other infrastructure.

The shadow war spilled out into the open after the Iran-backed armed group that has long ruled Gaza, Hamas, attacked Israel on Oct. 7, 2023, leading to both the war in Gaza and a broader regional confrontation pitting Israel against Iran and its proxies, including Hezbollah in Lebanon, armed groups in Iraq and the Houthi rebels in Yemen.

Israel’s strike on an Iranian-controlled compound in Syria in April 2024 prompted Tehran to fire a huge barrage of missiles at Israel. Iran launched a similar assault last fall after Israel assassinated Ismail Haniyeh, a Hamas leader, as he visited Iran last summer, and then killed Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah.

Show less
Maggie Haberman
June 12, 2025, 8:20 p.m. ET8 minutes ago
Maggie Haberman

While U.S. officials believed such an Israeli strike could be imminent, it has not been clear what President Trump had said directly to Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, in recent days. But Trump made clear earlier today that, while he knew a strike was possible, he did not favor Israel going forward while the administration was still trying to negotiate a deal to contain Iran’s nuclear program.

Farnaz Fassihi
June 12, 2025, 8:16 p.m. ET12 minutes ago
Farnaz Fassihi

A senior Iranian official said that Tehran had been attacked. The official said that Iranian fighter jets had taken off and that Israeli planes were attacking Iran.

Farnaz Fassihi
June 12, 2025, 8:15 p.m. ET14 minutes ago
Farnaz Fassihi

Over 1,000 Iranians were listening to a live town hall discussion, on the social media app Clubhouse, about diplomacy with the United States when the strikes began. One participant, Farhad Khorrami, said he lives in Tehran and that the sky was lighting up and the sounds of blasts were coming back to back.

Ephrat Livni and Aaron Boxerman
June 12, 2025, 8:11 p.m. ET17 minutes ago
Ephrat Livni and Aaron Boxerman

Israel’s defense minister, Israel Katz, said that Israel had made a “preemptive strike” against Iran and declared a special emergency across Israel. A missile and drone attack against Israel and its civilian population “is expected in the immediate timeframe,” he said.

Sirens began ringing out in Jerusalem and other cities.

Farnaz Fassihi
June 12, 2025, 8:07 p.m. ET21 minutes ago
Farnaz Fassihi

Residents of Tehran reported hearing the sound of back-to-back explosions that rattled windows and shook the ground."

RespectfulRobert37 reads

Israel has announced a multi-day attack on the Iranian nuke problem. This could really unravel. Damn.

Steve Witkoff is on his way to Iran.  He was supposed to meet with the Iranians TOMORROW.  Bibi didn’t give a shit.  

 
Bibi’s ruling coalition almost collapsed yesterday so he’s striking Iran to shore up support.  He’s trying to stay in office as long as possible to avoid going to jail.  That’s also why he’s dragging out the war in Gaza.

60 days later Iran tells the IAEA to fuck off and that they are stepping up their uranium enrichment program.
61 days later Trump says Israel might have to strike if diplomacy doesn’t work.  
61 days later Israel attack Iran.

RespectfulRobert40 reads

CNN is reporting that multiple senior Iranian military commanders and nuke programs scientists have been targeted and killed. Mossad went in before the bombers took flight, apparently.

Larry O’Donnell is focusing the Senator Padilla kerfuffle and a judge siding with Newsom over the federalization of the National Guard.

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