Well nobody trust this clown, in the White House.

Ttump thinks if starts a war he will be more popular and maybe stay in office.  He doesn’t understand that if the US tries even a very limited strike, Kim is going to retaliate with more than 6 million starving PRKA regulars screaming across the DMZ straight through Seoul to Pusan and the minimal number of troops we have there will be wiped out.  Along with 10 or 20 million civilians.  Do you think Trump considers or even cares about any of that?

Of course not.  He wants to dress up like a pilot just like Dubya did.  Except Dubya was an actual pilot.

You either "go big" or stay out. Based on his first year, it seems like Trump listens to his military advisors, as opposed to Obama who did not.

What's put in front of him and make a sound decision.  It seems like he's getting it from all sides that after the second or third briefing, he's probably lost and has checked out mentally.  
I guess it's who sells the best deal to trump at that moment. He ain't no cool hand Luke, That we can say.

You and president shithole know zilch about the strategy and logistics involved.  The United States and South Korea simply dont have enough boots on the ground to launch a major assault.  Remember Desert Shield?  Do you you think Kim Jung Un is going to sit idly by and watch us debark the millions of tons of men and equipment for four or five months in Inchon or Pusan harbors?   Those are the only two points of entry for an operation that large.  Its impossible to hide and he has spies everywhere in the south.  Of course not.  He will deploy everything hes got.  Bye bye Seoul and just about everyone that lives there in the first hour.  He has mobile launch nukes and we dont know where they all are.  Or do you think we have Star Trek transporters and just beam them all into Pyeongyang?

The fact is every conventional war scenario is that we lose and then have to retake the entire peninsula at an astronomical cost in men and supplies, not to mention 20 to 30 million civilian casualties in Korea and Japan and very likely here at home.   The nuclear option is unthinkable, but if anybody is stupid enough to launch a first strike it's our Shithole in Chief.

You just had to really show your utter stupidity with that comment about Obama not listening to the Joint Chiefs whereas Trump does.  That is literally and obviously one of the more fallacious comments you've made on these boards.   It is well known in the military that Trump neither listens or understands what JSTAFF tells him.  That was the whole point of the article.

Of course boots on the ground would be a disaster as I am not talking about conventional war. There was a reason we chose not to use conventional warfare when we needed to ultimately defeat Imperial Japan in 1945, correct?  

 
I am talking about a devastating first strike. Overwhelming. "Millions" of South Koreans would not be killed in that scenario as I think the casualties would be minimal.  

 
The nuke option, imo, may ultimately be the best option of a bunch of bad ones but there are other other things I would certainly try first before resorting to a first strike, with assassination being one of them.

 
Your way, which apparently is to do nothing, the nut dictator will eventually have the technology to accurately reach every city in the U.S. with nuke tipped ICBM's. My way, the regime would be gone and the threat along with it. If its a choice between him or us, I vote us. How do you vote?

 
You are either ignorant of Obama not listening to his military advisors or you are lying. I will go with ignorant for now. They told him to leave a residual force in Iraq and told him not to draw lines in the sand that he wasn't willing to back. Obama disregarded that wise advice.

 
On the other hand, Trump's advisors were fully behind the missile strike on the Syrian AF base, the change in the rules of engagement against ISIS as well as the MOAB detonation in Afghanistan.

A massive nuclear strike?  Are you nuts there Dr. Strangelove?  Do you honestly think that with the prevailing winds on the Korean Penninsula that China, Russia or Japan would be happy with literally tons of fallout raining down on there cities?

OK, you spoke stupidly about that.  So what do you think would happen if we assasinate Kim, assuming we could ever get close enough to him?  The North Korean culture of Chuchae would have not just the 6 million regular army streaming across the DMZ, you would also have every man woman and child civilian armed with whatever they can carry right along side of them.  Not to mention the 8000 conventional long range artillery fire  raining down on the south,  oh and those pesky nukes too.

A few corrections to the rest of your tripe:

The Syria missile strike plan was developed during the Obama administration specifically as a punitive measure in case he used chemical weapons.  Assad did just that, so the plan was executed.  Trump did not put much thought into it, he just gave his blessing as CinC.

As far as leaving troops in Iraq, it was the American people that wanted a draw down.  The JSTAFF and President  Obama came up with a reasonable plan to achieve that and it really was the best plan possible.  It placed the responsibility of Iraq in the hands of the Iraqis.  They own their freedom now and the job they did in Mosul and then Hawaji  is a shining example of that plans success.  Again Dumbass Donnie had nothing to do with it.

..."Chuchae"* and the toy choo-choo he still plays with.

 

*Juche

Why do I even read your posts anymore?  Maybe I just feel sorry for you and wonder if you will learn even the most basic of facts.

 
1)  So what is it that "Obama dd not listen to his military advisors" about with concern to North Korea.  Did the two George Bushs and Clinton, do the same?  News flash, "Dumpy;" the most challenging issues that face our country have NO clear cut solution, that is why they are so challenging.  No matter which option ANY commander-in-chief chooses with regard to North Korea, his/her critics will always line up and profess we should have done the opposite of what he/she ordered--after some very catastrophic results.

 
2)  "Dumpy," how long do you think it would take North Korea to launch multiple conventional strikes on Tokyo and Seoul?  Hint, hint; they already have more than enough firepower lined up and ready to go.  At any hint of a first strike against North Korea, you can wipe both of those cities off the map in a flash!  What do you think "Dumpy" Trumpy would have said while Obama was president, if our president resorted to a first strike?

 
3)  All the ISIS hyperbole is just that BULLSHIT!  It took years of Obama, FOLLOWING most of what his military advisors suggested about ISIS.  Were there some mistakes made when disbanding Sadaam's military, of course, but those mistakes began with Bush's regime.  ISIS' loss of territory was the result of a long prolonged engagement and a significant change in Iraq's political climate.  Please try to keep up "Dumpy."

 
4)  Rules of engagement?  Do you even know what that means?  The major change in our strategy against ISIS, involved arming the Kurds which is a very complex matter.  As I have lectured you in the past, one of our most tenuous allies (Turkey) considers the Kurds terrorists and is fighting Kurd efforts at independence.  We have elected NOT to arm the Kurds in the past as Turkey is Russia's next door neighbor and our bases in Turkey play a very strategic role in our/NATO's defense against Russia.  As even you must know by now Trump is not worried about defending against Russia, they are afterall, his biggest benefactor.  Write some of this down "Dumpy," if past performance is any indication of future returns, you will forget this right after your nurse's aide reads it to you.

 
"Dumpy" please TRY to at least get one or two facts correct, if that is not too difficult for you, or at least try to spell your name correctly!  Remember, google is your friend!

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And while I don't agree with everything you've written here (just most of it), what you've clearly demonstrated is there's a lot of nuance to foreign policy, something that Duncey's barren brain can't wrap itself around.  Neither can Trump.

So I would say "chucha" is the proper word in this case.

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If you are so smart and the North Korea problem is such a simple one.  Spit it out.  What would YOU do "genius?"  Here is your chance to show us how smart you are!!!!!

 
Blanks, that is absolutely the best you will do, because you continue to open your mouth with not even one brain cell firing correctly.  Thanks for all your contributions to this discussion board--NOT!!!