...if the debt ceiling isn't raised...

"The full consequences of a default or even the serious prospect of default by the United States are impossible to predict and awesome to contemplate. Denigration of the full faith and credit of the United States would have substantial effects on the domestic financial markets and on the value of the dollar in exchange markets. The Nation can ill afford to allow such a result. The risks, the cost, the disruptions, and the incalculable damage lead me to but one conclusion: the Senate must pass this legislation before the Congress adjourns."

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Were you expecting me to say something new.

Obama for a government shutdown, if they will not even allow a clean up or down vote on the Senates bill.

"Look for the same likely outcome this time. The real bluff may be that the GOP is pretending to have a spine, and it's not there."

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that's all that matters, right?!?    

Why just dismiss the article based on the author?  Are the assertions correct or not?  I don't know one way or the other....(yes I just corrected the spelling of assertion!)

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knows that they have investments in property, stocks and bonds. It isn't even a consideration for our rich elite politicians of either party to default. I could see the federal government cutting local and state funding causing localized defaulting on bonds and retirement accounts, but the fed actually doing it nation wide no way.

...that Obama was crapping his pants over the possible debt ceiling default.

You assumed it WAS Obama without checking the link to see that it was really Ronald Reagan who made the quote that filled his Depend.  BTW, you mentioned Bush, Nixon and Clinton as being liars but you skipped over your heartthrob Ronnie Ray-gun.