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How will Trump and his cheerleaders defend this? Bodies in the streets of Bucha.
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And it's just the beginning. Russia claims it's a hoax and the bodies were put there by Ukraine. But satellite images prove they appeared there weeks ago, not long after Russian troops moved in. Oh, and those of you who got on Joe's case for calling Putin a "butcher" can GFY.
From the Times:
"An analysis of satellite images by The New York Times rebuts claims by Russia that the killing of civilians in Bucha, a suburb of Kyiv, occurred after its soldiers had left the town.

When images emerged over the weekend of the bodies of dead civilians lying on the streets of Bucha — some with their hands bound, some with gunshot wounds to the head — Russia’s Ministry of Defense denied responsibility. In a Telegram post on Sunday, the ministry suggested that the bodies had been recently placed on the streets after “all Russian units withdrew completely from Bucha” around March 30.

Russia claimed that the images were “another hoax” and called for an emergency U.N. Security Council meeting on what it called “provocations of Ukrainian radicals” in Bucha.

But a review of videos and satellite imagery by The Times shows that many of the civilians were killed more than three weeks ago, when Russia’s military was in control of the town.

One video filmed by a local council member on April 2 shows multiple bodies scattered along Yablonska Street in Bucha. Satellite images provided to The Times by Maxar Technologies show that at least 11 of those had been on the street since March 11, when Russia, by its own account, occupied the town.
To confirm when the bodies appeared, and when the civilians were likely killed, the Visual Investigations team at The Times conducted a before-and-after analysis of satellite imagery. The images show dark objects of similar size to a human body appearing on Yablonska Street between March 9 and March 11. The objects appear in the precise positions in which the bodies were found after Ukrainian forces reclaimed Bucha, as the footage from April 2 shows. Further analysis shows that the objects remained in those position for over three weeks.

The causes of death are unclear. Some of the bodies were beside what appears to be an impact crater. Others were near abandoned cars. Three of the bodies lay beside bicycles. Some have their hands bound behind their backs with white cloth. The bodies were scattered over more than half a mile of Yablonska Street.

A second video taken on Yablonska Street shows three more bodies. One lies beside a bicycle, another near an abandoned car. Satellite imagery shows that the abandoned cars and the nearby body appear between March 20 and 21."

with more lethal aid, like tanks and MiG-29s.  They need that more than they need our president calling Putin names. “Actions, Not Words” is what Zelensky said the Ukrainian people needed.

The American public has learned from earlier reporting and government statements not to believe everything we’re told without question. WMDs in Iraq. The bogus Steele dossier. Intel community assertions that the Hunter laptop didn’t exist, that it was only misinformation.

Because there's nothing to question about it. And so all you can do is put up bogus "equivalents."  
That's not only ignorant but despicable.
But exactly what we expect from a relentless partisan.

disagree that we should therefore take everything we read in the main stream media at face value. When the stakes are war, there’s nothing despicable about making sure we are moving forward with truthful information and listening to different viewpoints.

Some were ready to accept the initial photos as absolute truth before we even had time to absorb what it was we are viewing. Is that what you want? Splash a few photos on Twitter and send our soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines off to war?  Because that’s what’s a stake here. After reading The NY Times article you cut and paste, I also believe the satellite analysis indicates these deaths occurred at the hands of Russian occupying forces.

After WWII, the West collectively promised “Never Again”. What we are confronted with now is a question as to what lengths we are willing to go to ensure that “never again” really means never.  That’s not an answer we should barrel into, blindly uninformed.

Use all the sanctimonious weasel-words you want, but I've spent the past few hours surfing YouTube for coverage of this and have found ZERO videos pushing your point of view.
Your attempt to throw doubt on what's happened is transparent.

 Because that’s what’s a stake here. After reading The NY Times article you cut and paste, I also believe the satellite analysis indicates these deaths occurred at the hands of Russian occupying forces
We agree that it’s a war crime committed by the Russians. No weaseling there Nicky.
have found ZERO videos pushing your point of view.
Yet another weak Nicky counter-rebuttal. What POV do you think I’m advocating?

Not only did you fail to find anything to substantiate another explanation, you even agreed it was almost certainly the Russians who committed the crime. In other words, you keep trying to rebut my position after agreeing with it.
You are one confused creature.

have found ZERO videos pushing your point of view
We agree that the Russians did it. So, again, what POV did you think I was “pushing”?

...he claims he is "reasonable and intelligent."  However, his posts belie his claims of reasonableness and intelligence.

This is what I don't get. trump calls Putin a genius and he's base sides with Putin. Tucker and FOX glorified Putin....and again the republican party become useful idiots.  
At this stage, the "R" use to mean Republican, to me it's now Russia.

Genius is one of superior intellect, and that genius can be used for EVIL.
Do you think that Trump meant it in that regard or are you so filled with hate and distain that you twist distort and make up your own interpretation of what was said without regard to truth, facts or intent so as to fit your warped agenda?  

 
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/remembering-obamas-russia-reset-hillary-and-the-skolkovo-misadventure/

 
They sure do look like real good friends
 http://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-1240w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2016_30/1639641/160726-putin-hrc-apec-mbe-422p.jpg

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Lavrov_and_Clinton_reset_relations-1_%28cropped%29.jpg

 

I’m not sure it would take a genius but putin et-al were smart enough to reel in her and obama, and now putin has biden shit scared of him.

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