I have to say, i'm really disappointed with the group here, especially the conservative voices -- so much vitriol and venom directed at the erstwhile Magic Negro, but not a glove laid on him here for this one, where he deserves criticism by the truckload.  I mean, i take off a couple of weeks, and look at all the work left undone in my absence.


Well, Obama's fianlly wearing a US Flag lapel pin -- which I hope wil make the cons in this forum happy. My problem with it, however, is that it's twinned with an Israeli Flag.  Xrist, talk about total immunity from critcism!  Even Superman's invulnerability pales compared to the political protection Obama gets with his one.


So, i'm wondering, whaere are the angry consevative voices?  Whatever else my disagreements with them, I always felt  conservatives were honest in their patriotism for the US.  To see the US flag placed on a level of equality with an insignificant country of no great importance [well, their ancestral theological forebearers did inflict monotheism on the rest of us, so i guess that's something], except that it's the beneficiary of the world's most blatant and effective proaganda-meistering and ever-changing multiple standards, well, to me, it's more than a little sad.

Look on the bright side, though, cons  -- he'll never dare remove this flag pin. At least until AIPAC tells him to.

What's the old saw about entangling alliances?  As far as I'm concerned this wretched lapel pin is merely symptomatic of the whole problem.  The US has been so gulled into a misinterpretation of it's own interests and a misidentification with the questionable interests of Guess Who, we are more entangled with the endless travails of Israel's foreign policy problems than Laocoon and his sons were entangled by the serpents.  I would hope some conservatives would speak out about this, however meekly.  But I'd be hoping uselessly.

Hold the objections, pleease.  Yes, I know that Guess Who is our Ally in The Global War on Terror.  And no doubt a few enterprising types can saarch the web and find images of WWII vintage pins with the US flag being paired with that of the UK, or France [remember those perfidious cowards?], or the late and mostly unlamented USSR, or the Republic of China, or Canada, or... take your pick.  And yes, for those ou us who live in large urbam centers subjected to a semmingly endless array of useless ethnic prades, like St. Patrick's Day, or Colombus Day, or Pulaski Day, etc... we are painfully familar with the bric-a-brac those days bring forth, which often pair the US flag with another country's flag.  Tedious as they are, those are quite benign in comparison with that of the country on whose behalf the US if fighting WW IV [per Norm Podhoretz, though he's very careful never to put it quite that bluntly.  Wouldn't want to wake us up, would he?  If he did, we might rebel at the prospect of becoming potential collateral damage for the policies of Guess Who.]

So, what 's the deal here?  I'm coming to the conclusion that political conservatives in the US, who are never shy about dumping on any and all ethnic minorities and their outrageous bloviating, or any manifestation of multiculti/PC/diversity, or the feminazis, or the ever-comedic  alternate sexuality/gendered community, tremble in fear [figuratively speaking of course] when it comes to even the possibility of having to give voice to any opinion not 1000% supportive of Israel.  That they have to produce these statements practically on demand ought to be, IMHO, even more galling.  But it sems to me that conservatives can and do tolerate anything on this score.

Wimpy liberals will at least, however reluctantly, attempt a critique of the most outrageous of Guess Who's words and deeds, citing this or that painstakingly researched, exhaustive report from Amnesty International. or Human Rights Watch, or B'Tsalem,  or even the US Dept of State. I'd like to see conservatives do the same.  Or is it really just easier, or more fun, or safer [definitely]  to beat up on Al Shapton as oppossed to beating up on Al Dershowitz?







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I am no big fan of Israel and I believe many if not most of our problems in the Middle East stem from our unswaying support of Israel despite their own oppresive behavior. Does that make you happy?

OTOH your obsession with the subject goes way past tedious. Not everything that is wrong in the world can be traced back tp the evil zionists. give it a fucking break already.

Now that your ex hero, the Obamessiah has been outed as a jew lover, who are you going to support? Does the enemy of your enemy become your friend? or do you sit on the sidelines and hurl insults at both of them?

i may indeed be obsessed with the cost of israel to the US.  But are you no less obsessed with the very tedious question of your tax libility? And the undeserving leeches who live off of your taxes? Xrist, talk about original.  And while you're at it, have you ever considered the many 10s of billions less we'd be paying in defense/security costs if we had not thrust the burden of Israel upon ourselves for the last 40 plus years?  Not likely, my friend. Think maybe your taxes might be less in that instance?  I'm glad your business acumen far outstips your political acumen.

I don't balme the Zionists for everything in the world, as you probably well know.  i blame them only for the phenomenal cost their support has imposed upon this country. Xrist, can you not fuckin' understand that?  What are you, the urban unsderclass of comprehension? I do indeed love pointing out their foibles at every opportunity, though.  And since i'm the only voice on this Board re this topid, kindly STFU and go play in traffic. Maybe you'll get hit by a parasitic uninsured driver living off your generous tax contributions [something which happened to me back in 2002, but no  real damage done]. Or go bitch and whine about Jacko's and zinaval's and sparker's aliases.

As for Obama, i've always been skeptical.  On several occassions I've posted to the effect that Obama is a Democrat, Democrats are in thrall to AIPAC, so don't count on any rational policy change from him on this score.  THis was only a matter of when, not if.

OTOH, if you are sincere about : " I am no big fan of Israel and I believe many if not most of our problems in the Middle East stem from our unswaying support of Israel despite their own oppresive behavior. Does that make you happy?"  That does indeed make me happy, and i hold out hope for you in the end.  Now, try to follow througn on that blazing glimpse of the obvious.

Cheer up GaGambler, like i said, Obama ain't gonna dare take off that lapel pin now.  god knows if he pins one on his pajamas. He'll still probably try to pry the guns from your cold, dead fingers, though.  Unless, of course, it's an Uzi or a Ghalil assult rifle.  In which case, he'll probably give you one of his pins and send AIPAC multiples press releases about another instance of "support" for Israel.






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twinned with all the states' rights' flags!  Since it's sort of hard to twin 50 flags, he can just make it the Confederate flag.  

States' Fuckin' Rights!!

try to keep us X.

BTW, during the 90's when we were starving the Arab children of Iraq as the result of Bill Clinton's policies, was that making us MORE, or Less popular in the ME...????

Just asking...

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Israel was a creation of the British Imperialism prevailing at the time. WW II collapsed the British Empire and they left Israel for US to take care of.

Iraq was also a creation of the British Empire of the same circa. We are all very familiar with what happened.

Pakistan was also created by the British Empire out of India. That creation with the help of the Reagan Administration created the so called Afghan Mujahadeen which became the now famous Taliban/Al Queda when USSR left Afghanistan and grew with help of ISI (Inter Services Intelligence) of Pakistan. Pakistan also allowed its northern territories as training camps to Al Queda and ISI trained many of them to achieve their objectives else where. Now, US has a major problem with Taliban and Al Queda and the US is continuing to fight.

All problems created by the British Empire after WW II and the whole world is paying for it and will pay for it a while.

Just a few historical facts. There were plenty of places in the world after WW II to create an Israel but what did the British do, create the State of Israel in the middle of the sworn enemies of Judaism. You think the British were dumb, think not!

well less, obviously. but don't you get it?  how many Americans had an interest in starving innocent Iraqi kids?  damn few, I bet.  but what well-known lobbying group moved heaven and earth to sway Clinton? and do you think that being unpopular in the wretched ME is a good thing or a bad thing for the USA?

bonus points, BK, if you can name that group in one guess.

hint : it wasn't the American Friends Service Committee.

but in all seriousness BK, doesn't it piss you off in the least that Senator Obama will only wear the US flag if it's twinned to an Israeli flag?

i thought his reasons for not wearing the US flag lapel pin  were totally defensible.  and i really feared something like this. why do my worst fears almost always come to pass?  sigh...

This is an honest question. Is he still wearing the pin with the US flag intertwined with the Israeli flag?

If so, the very few jews that he will get to change their vote to him will be offset by huge numbers of other voters that will view this as confirmation that Obama is not an American first and foremost.

good question, i'm just not sure how much seriousness to give to the whole pin bullshit

i know it just cements what a FUCKIN PHONY HE IS

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the lefties are going to love that,

mark my words, keithy overbite will feature that front and center on his show tonight, showing that it proves the only reason anyone DOESNT vote for buttcrack is because they hate black people.

ScareAmerica is already ginning it up...

"Prove you're not a racist, Vote Obama" unless of course you're black, then it is perfectly ok to vote Obama soley because he is of your same color, with no other reason neccessary.

Vote Obama!
What, are you racist?

I already have Leftwing Fuckknobs saying you have to support the SCOTUS decision on Gitmo or else you're a racist....

anti-Israel rant disguised to be about something else on the surface

no matter, there's another one almost right below this
(is anyone surprised?)

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yeah, too bad, i guess actually grappling with the idea was too much for many. or maybe discretion is the better part of valor?  who knows, maybe Derschowitz and Foxman peruse TER whne they're feeling randy and a little bit bored with ginning up non-existent threats of Guess What?

but, like they say in the 'hood, mad props to GaGambler for at least taking some type of a stab at acknowledging the Q. you zisk, show again why you are such a target-rich environment for the barbs of JackO.

it's 2 down from this one, that Pally sympathiser and terror-enabler, Rachael Ray.

and I am too lazy to check.

Is he still wearing the pin?

I have checked every half-tone photoraphic reproduction i've seen of Senator Obama in the newspapers since you asked that Q, and I can't tell

one one hand, wearing that pin is like joining the Mafia -- you're committed for life, there's no way out,  and i doubt Senator Obama wants to deal with the shit he will inevitably have to deal with if/when he takes it off

but OTOH, wearing that pin is like submissive behavior in the animal kingdon when animals fight -- by wearing it, Senator Obama has shown he clearly knows who is the boss, and the Israel Lobby, having once again brought an American political leader to heel, and having their unquestioned superiority once again affirmed, may/will lay off him

i continue to check every day

at 1449 this day MSNBC had some coverage about Obama and the Senator was clearly wearing a small rectangular pin in his left lapel, but I couldn't make out the details.  ironically, it was the story about how someone in his campaign would not allow two women, wearing Moslem/Islamic headgear to one of the Senator's capaign appearances, sit where they would be picked up by TV cameras.  a pity they [the Obama campaign] didn't have some extra pins to go around, then those women could have been asked to wear them, and no doubt get situated front and center for maximum TV exposure.  sigh



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somebody changes his mind when he's sworn in.  Like, I had 20 minutes of fantasizing that GW would hand the GOP the head of Tom DeLay on a platter once he was in office, just to show them who was top dog.

I have no illusions that thought might cross McCain's mind.  That will happen when the NVA start torchering him again.

Obama could easily pass it off on his dressers.  If I was president, I would appoint Andie MacDowell to be my dresser, and claim temporary insanity w/r/t my clothing, and it would be true.

The other thing about politics is that the bureaucracy has incredible momentum, and nothing is going to change quickly.

you happen to be the fella who writes the US Marshal's paycheck.

i heard the chicks were wearing bombbelts and would'nt tuck em in..

buttcrack told em the bombbelts were okay but they had to tuck em in, at least until after the election....

ever notice, that if you look at his crowd picture backwards in a mirror he's surrounded by men in black robes carrying AK's?

eh? hmmmm...

no, haven't noticed, i'm still too busy playing music backward to discern the satanic messages  within

can you do some research and find out if Senator and Mrs Obama cast reflections in mirrors, and get back to us soonest re thatt?  thanks, BK.