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Trump sends in troops to make players stand for National Anthem...
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nuguy4656 reads

do employees have them when in the work place?  When I get a burger at McD's and have the 'Black Power salute" thrown at me when I pay...the employee has no legally protected-right to do that.....and I won't return to that McD's either....the players are at their workplace...just like the McD employee...., I go to football game to see a sporting event, not a political rally. I go to McD's for a burger, not to view a political statement.

bigguy3050 reads

Trump and his cult don't understand or respect the US Constitution at all!
So all of you clowns forget, you are not living in Russia.

First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Where exactly has Trump made a law "abridging the freedom of speech".  In your jurisprudence, does a public figure saying an opinion count as "making a law"?  Tweeting "...should be fired" is the same as "...the NFL must fire them or face government sanction" in an executive order?
Hillary said all women rape "survivors" should be believed.  Does that mean that if she had won, her husband would immediately have been locked up, because the law now said that his rape accusers were mandated to be believed and he was therefore mandated to be guilty?  
OR, do opinions from government officials, even the President, somehow differ from official acts?
This is just plain dumb, 3rd grade level stuff.

bigguy3057 reads

So with all the problems going on in this country and around the world.
Why is the fuck up in chief, so focus on the NFL?
Trump the racist scumbag is lazy and mentally unstable.

Also for a guy who dodge the US draft five times during the Vietnam war and attacked John McCain who was a war prisoner. Plus attacked a gold star family, who son died in war.
This asshole should not be talking or pointing fingers, about respecting the flag or military!

I guess most NFL players are not US citizens and don't have a voice?
Thanks again for showing your stupidity.

-- Modified on 10/12/2017 6:00:46 AM

What if a "white nationalist" athlete, or several of them were to launch a similar expression of THEIR 1st Amendment rights, would you support their right to be heard?

bigguy3038 reads

This is a dumb ass question.
Also your fellow racists scumbags Trump supporters were protesting last week.
We all know what you are about on here.

Badboy1234  don't fall for his bs.

-- Modified on 10/11/2017 1:09:35 PM

So what you are saying is you would NOT.

So that makes you a RACIST.

How's it feel............RACIST.

Posted By: bigguy30
Re: GaG you are still defending white racist as usual.
This is a dumb ass question.  
 Also your fellow racists scumbags Trump supporters were protesting last week.  
 We all know what you are about on here.  
   
 Badboy1234  don't fall for his bs.

-- Modified on 10/11/2017 1:09:35 PM

bigguy3054 reads

So posting this type of bs response, shows you have nothing!
You are really a clown and like your puppet master Trump.
Just STFU and find a mirror fraud!

-- Modified on 10/12/2017 9:51:15 AM

Though, I would expect there to be discussion as to what they were protesting, and that they encourage violence against people unlike themselves, unlike the athletes protesting against police violence. ;)

(Haven't read the whole thread, but there seems to be a mashup of different things.)
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FORCED: I thought that an employer or school or whatever cannot force me to do something that violates my Constitutional rights. E.g., children cannot be forced to say a prayer in the public school classroom. (SCOTUS, 1962: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engel_v._Vitale ).  I do not think that an employer can FORCE me to salute the flag and so on, during the playing of the National Anthem.  
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ALLOWED: Before SCOTUS 1962, kids were allowed to do something else non-disruptive if they didn't want to participate in the daily prayer.  Because that was stigmatizing, school prayer was ultimately eliminated. I should be allowed to something non-disruptive if I do not want to participate in the National Anthem ceremonies. Go back to the locker room? Stand up with my hands at my sides or clasped behind my back and w/o the salute or hand-over-heart? Kneel? Is kneeling too disruptive? Well, for some Presidents it is!
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NOT ALLOWED: While at work, I am not allowed to use that pulpit to promote my own agenda, especially if it will reflect, badly or not, on the employer or business. I cannot burn a flag on the 50-yard line during the Nat'l Anthem. I can burn a flag on my own time in my own backyard or at a public rally. The McD employee should not be allowed to make political or social statements that might harm McD's business while at work. The McD employee can participate in any political cause he wishes to after punching out.  
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Distinguish between what is unconstitutionally FORCED, ALLOWED, or NOT ALLOWED.
I know that Rasha would rip into this or say it better if she was reading it.

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