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Sorry Once, we just disagree.
JackDunphy 14 reads
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The black woman in the video I linked yesterday was saying the same thing I have been saying. It doesn't matter that there is a racist component or not. Black on black crime decimated the inner city, not a rogue, white, one off cop here and there.

 
Racially motivated or not, still the same end result. Many liberals, especially the elite ones in our press, simply don't care about the much more worrisome issue of black on black crime.

 
The reason is simple Once. There is no politics to be gained from it and they will be called a racist. I am sure you know this to be true.

 
You tell me. When do you ever see a big march against black on black crime? When does CNN or MSNBC or ABC or NBC ever do a special about it?  Nope, doesn't happen.

 
ALL the energy is finding that rogue cop and exploiting something that so rarely ever happens...THEN suddenly the media cares! Then LeBron James gets upset! Then numerous politicians rush to a mic to feign how outraged they are.

 
But then they do nothing about the problem. They don't blame the people in charge; Liberal Democrats running the cities where all theses problems exits. Everyone goes home and they await the next rogue white cop story...and ignore the inner cities REAL problem.  

 
And the devastation continues for black Americans and that is terribly sad.

 
Re: the numbers we do have, it all points in one direction; NO systemic problem. If you have numbers that say otherwise I guess you would have provided them by now. You list anecdotal evidence only. Not good enough.

 
And like I said, if you dont feel we have enough data, or good enough data, I would suggest calling out the liberals in power for not having such, I mean this problem (data) isn't new right?

 
Liberals have had ages to make change and they haven't. So we have to go by the numbers we do have and our common sense. And all that point people on the right, like myself, and people on the Left, like Mari to the same conclusion on this.

 
And we are both open to any new data you can provide.

 
Good debate! Thanks!

The headline SHOULD read

 
"Idiot parent brings two year old to the site of a possible riot"  

 

"CPS called to investigate child endangerment"

 
What kind of idiot brings a two year old the front lines of a possible riot?

Timbow42 reads

The man and his child are  closer to the camera where the cop is out of focus further in background and really a lot more to the right aiming his gun far into the distance. The photographer is misleading as hell and anybody that knows anything about photography is laughing at the caption near to the child.

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about logic and common sense, knows you never even remotely, put a child in danger like this.  Any number of things can go wrong.  Even Stevie Wonder could see that.

Not to mention the "weapon" pictured is not a "firearm" AND of course the misleading camera angle. You would think a bunch of mongers who look at fake pics wouldn't be fooled quite so easily, unless of course they "want" to be fooled because it goes along with their own preconceived narrative that "cops are bad"

 
Back to the much more important point, What parent in his right mind brings his two year old daughter to the scene of a riot?

As for whether or not the weapon should be drawn, that is impossible to know from just that picture.

GaGa, no matter, there is absolutely no reason for the officer's weapon to be "drawn."  Of course, we do not know the entire story, and we were NOT there.  BUT, I can see a number of reasons why to officer was in the wrong.

NOT common sense.  Know anything about police procedure.  If that guy is unarmed, first rule is proportionality.  Second rule is, if not in imminent or perceived imminent danger, never draw your weapon.  Third is, NEVER point a weapon anywhere near the vicinity of an innocent bystander (this child).  Better to err on the side of caution and restraing.

 
Any Joe blow, on the street would know as much.  After his superiors review this footage, you can bet 100% this cop will get a thorough "debriefing" of his actions.

of ALL the facts.  BUT, the weapon should have NEVER been drawn.  What did that officer think, this was a rodeo and he was going to shoot all the bottles out of the air.  There are other actions he could have resorted to, sorry.  His instincts were way off.

 
Maybe he is an honest cop, but a rookie who needs more training.   Or maybe he is one of the "bad" cops.  We will never know.

Its not a video, there is no sound, we don't know what is going on outside of the view of that pic, we dont know what the father did prior. what he was saying, etc etc etc

 
There are tons of info not in evidence so no clue how anyone could say the "draw" was bad, or good ,for that matter.

There’s a good, fairly in depth article in the Long Beach Post about this episode. It’s too lengthy to post here, but. I suggest that if anyone wants to have a better insight as to what went on, just look it up. It includes interviews from the photographer who took the picture.

...the part of the article where the photog tracked down the father and reported: "At one point during the whole interaction—not the 500th of a second that my shutter was open for—he did have a gun pointed at his face at one point during all this."

 
http://lbpost.com/news/police-point-gun-protester-child-long-beach-fake-real            --  That's not "too lengthy," eh Cenzo?

I guess he missed this. How convenient:

 
“The picture is real,” Grant said, but it doesn’t show exactly what many assumed it does. In the picture, the officer is not directly pointing his rubber-bullet launcher at the man."

 
See the word "NOT." Does BigPOS know the definition of "NOT."

 
Apparently NOT.

"Thug cop points his weapon NEAR 2 year old girl sitting on her father's shoulders..." (emphasis added)

 
To lying liar JackSquat, who knows jack squat about reading without moving his lips, the subject line reads:  "The officer is DIRECTLY pointing his rubber-bullet launcher AT the man."

 
Righties - the biggest fucking liars on the face of the Earth.

OK, I was too fucking lazy to provide a link; but I did recommend that everyone should read the entire article. I didn’t just provide snippets trying to emphasize one side of the story. Agree?

You mean like BigPOS just did?!?!?!

 
BLM would be so proud of him. I hope he asks for a raise.

If you watch the video in the link above, you will notice that the father in question moved closer to the police as they started to fire their rubber bullets. Aside from not bringing his young daughter, when people are firing weapons of any kind would not a responsible father:  
1) take his daughter off his shoulders immediately and put her behind him to keep her from harm  
and  
2) follow that up by quickly move his daughter and him away from the people firing, with him between his daughter and the people firing?

That father is a fucking nut job! What an idiot! He does EXACTLY what you said. He starts walking TOWARD the police when they start shooting rubber bullets!

story, but one thing I can tell you for sure, after I viewed Papasan's link to the story.  That cop really needs to go on a diet.  Bet he could never come close to touching my 5 mile, time, even on a bicycle.

...he's had a desk job for the last ten years and was forced into going out into the streets with his gut and double chin.  He also looks like he was so rusty that he was panicking.  That's why he raised his weapon.

Her father should  be charged with child abuse!!!

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