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SMFH
edinathens 255 reads
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1 / 13

The lead-in . . .
President Donald Trump said he knows nothing about Binance founder Changpeng Zhao — or that company’s recent involvement in a cryptocurrency venture linked to Trump’s family — despite granting him a pardon last month.
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Asked in a CBS “60 Minutes” interview that aired on Sunday why he pardoned the former crypto executive known as CZ, Trump said, “Okay, are you ready? I don’t know who he is.”
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http://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/03/trump-60-minutes-binance-cz-pardon.html
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What a liar, but not surprising after he pardoned/commuted the sentences of the Jan 6 insurrectionists. And now he's prepared for a ground invasion of Mexico and of Nigeria but won't commit to defending Taiwan. Plus he has the nuclear launch codes.

inicky46 61 Reviews 36 reads
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2 / 13

Oh, gosh. It must be a day which ends in "y."
What's amazing is that some many loons still believe a word he says.

edinathens 32 reads
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3 / 13

Trump is their Jesus figure. Whatever Trump says must be believed in order for them to be disciples of the golden savior.

davincib1 96 Reviews 61 reads
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4 / 13

How are you the POTUS, but you knew nothing about issuing a pardon to someone?  But at the same time you're trying to make all of Biden's pardons/executive orders invalid?  Just blatant corruption right in people's faces.  This is the stupidest base of followers I have ever seen, nothing is rational, everything is either a lie or deflection.  

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 33 reads
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5 / 13

are all of the Lefties who argued for four years that Biden was as sharp as a tack and in full control of his mental faculties.  Some of them even posted as much on this board, even after the 2024 debate.  They said he just had a "bad night."   Look it up. They are still investigating the "auto-pen" scandal.

davincib1 96 Reviews 33 reads
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6 / 13

Look what up? An investigation by who?  This corrupt ass DOJ, FBI, etc.?  By incompetent ass Kash Patel or Hegseth?  If this happened under a General in the military, hell even if a squad leader said this he would be shit canned so fast.  How the hell does a dude get a presidential pardon and the POTUS does not know about it?  He's just testing the waters as far as what he can say and how much backlash will be received.  And MAGA just continues to eat it up, smile and ask if they can have another.  

crsm27 32 Reviews 36 reads
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7 / 13

The left doesn't understand that many times the President doesn't know about the case or reasoning behind any of the DOJ recommendations from pardons.     This was a DOJ recommendation.

 
You think every president knows about the case they pardon.   They get the recommendation and sign off on it.

davincib1 96 Reviews 34 reads
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8 / 13

And as a retired Marine, I can tell you that's absolute bullshit.  And even more bullshit is the fact that you just said that.  So the POTUS just willy nilly signs shit without knowing anything about the case?  If that's the case, the right are full of fucking nutjobs and whoever else thinks that way is too.  Just imagine if a Battalion CO just signed off on anything?  Shit I can remember when I was a company GySgt and I had to answer to the 1stSgt and Company Commander about a Marine in one of the platoons that bought a car from a lemon lot.  That is absolutely piss poor, and a piss poor excuse for it all.  The more and more you guys talk the more I realize you wouldn't know what leadership was if it hit you in the face.  

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 32 reads
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9 / 13

"(Presidents) get the recommendation (from DOJ for a pardon) and sign off on it."

 
"...many times the President doesn't know about the case or reasoning behind any of the DOJ recommendations from (sic) pardons."

 
IOW, CRSM27IQ says Trump IS an auto-pen.  He signs pardons even when he "doesn't know about the case or reasoning behind any of the DOJ recommendations."  COEUR-DE-LION tried to deflect, distract and divert from davincib1's question: "How are you the POTUS, but you knew nothing about issuing a pardon to someone?"  COEUR-DE-LION is too stupid to answer the question so he diverted to: "But, but Biden used an auto-pen."

 
Again, davincib1 asked COEUR-DE-LION: "How the hell does a dude get a presidential pardon and the POTUS does not know about it?"  COEUR-DE-LION couldn't answer the question so he ran away like the gutless coward he is.

 
CRSM27IQ tried to cover for COEUR-DE-LION but they wound up looking like Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber.
Trump admitted on 60 Minutes about the pardon: "Well, here's the thing - I know nothing about it cuz I'm too busy doing the other."

 
Did Trump sign the pardon without knowing who it was for or did he use an auto-pen?  Should the pardon be "undone" as Trump is threatening to do with Biden's pardons?

impposter 49 Reviews 56 reads
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10 / 13

SOURCE?? Where is the DoJ Pardon Atty recommendation on Zhao? Link, please. (I don't think there was one.)
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The career DoJ Pardon Atty who had worked as a Public Defender and in other Federal legal roles for more than 13 years was fired by Trump in March 2025 for recommending against pardoning Mel Gibson.  
DoJ Profile: http://www.justice.gov/archives/pardon/staff-profile/former-pardon-attorney-oyer
(Download and save before the DoJ scrubs that page off the website!)
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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5321482-trump-pardon-policy-criticism/
"Oyer said she was dismissed from her role at the department after failing to recommend actor Mel Gibson’s gun ownership rights be restored; he lost them after he was convicted of domestic violence. ..."
[In a longer interview that I can't find, Oyer explains the normal process in evaluating and recommending a pardon. She basically said that a domestic violence conviction is almost ALWAYS used to recommend AGAINST the pardon. She might have said that she did not know of any case where where domestic violence was overlooked and a pardon recommended ... Unless it's a Trump friend (Mel Gibson) or a Trump supporter.]
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Oyer was replaced by a super-MAGA, 2020-election-denier Trump POLITICAL appointee Ed Martin  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Martin_(Missouri_politician)
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Even IF there IS a positive DoJ Parole Atty recommendation on Zhao, Martin surely recommended so with Trump's order or approval.  
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And now, Trump doesn't know who Zhao is? Zhao has been in HEADLINE news for a few years. Binance plead guilty to money-laundering related charges in 2023 and paid a $4.3 B fine.  
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http://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/binance-and-ceo-plead-guilty-federal-charges-4b-resolution
Binance Admits It Engaged in Anti-Money Laundering, Unlicensed Money Transmitting, and Sanctions Violations in Largest Corporate Resolution to Include Criminal Charges for an Executive. [Nov 21, 2023]
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/10/31/trump-pardon-binance-crypto-ceo/86936558007/
Binance CEO pardon follows Trump family's growing ties to the cryptocurrency industry
Democrats and one Republican say the pardon is inappropriate given business links between Binance and Trump family crypto interests. [Oct 31, 2025]
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"Five days after President Donald Trump pardoned the founder of Binance, the world's largest crypto exchange the company helped boost Trump’s fortunes by promoting his family’s own crypto product, a digital coin known as USD1. “Deposits for $USD1 are now open on @BinanceUS!” the firm’s U.S. subsidiary said in an Oct. 28 post on X, in reference to the Trump-affiliated World Liberty Financial cryptocurrency. ..." [Quid pro quo? Pardon then Big Boost to the value of Trump family stablecoin biz?]
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"... Binance's founder, Chinese-born Canadian tech tycoon Changpeng "CZ" Zhao, Zhao pleaded guilty to money-laundering in 2023 and served four months in federal prison before being pardoned by Trump on Oct. 23. ..."
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"... Binance agreed to pay over $4 billion in 2023, to settle a yearslong investigation by the Justice Department and U.S. financial regulators. And it agreed to plug gaps in its financial protocols that prosecutors said had allowed criminals and terrorist groups like Hamas, Al Qaeda and the Islamic State to move illicit money on Binance's crypto platform. “Binance became the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange in part because of the crimes it committed – now it is paying one of the largest corporate penalties in U.S. history,” then-Attorney General Merrick Garland said.  ..." [Why did Binance plead guilty to a yearslong investigation - I mean, witch hunt - and no evidence indictment?]  
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"... Another so-called "crypto bro" that Trump pardoned was Ross Ulbricht, who was sentenced in 2015 to life in prison for founding and operating what the U.S. government said was “the most sophisticated and extensive criminal marketplace on the Internet,” which used bitcoin for transactions, which aided in protecting user identities. --- 'A full time, 24/7 corruption machine' --- Democrats and even one Republican have criticized the Zhao pardon as especially inappropriate given the business links between Binance and the Trump family’s crypto interests. ..."
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"... Earlier this year, Trump’s SEC dropped a lawsuit against Coinbase, the largest U.S. cryptocurrency exchange for buying, selling, storing and using cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin and Trump’s USD1 stablecoin. That happened soon after the company gave $1 million to Trump’s inauguration. ..."
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"[Trump] and his family have made as much as $5 billion in paper gains from their various cryptocurrency holdings, including $864 million in reported actual cash profits in the first six months of this year alone. They’ve launched their own companies and coins. And they’ve developed ties to industry leaders here and overseas, obtaining investments and donations while granting access to Trump. On May 22, Trump dined with 220 investors who plowed a combined $148 million into his crypto venture, inviting a torrent of criticism about the ethical implications. By that month, World Liberty had already raised more than $500 million from selling a separate digital token. The top bidder for a seat at that dinner and a separate VIP meet-and-greet was Justin Sun, a Hong Kong crypto entrepreneur who pumped $75 million into World Liberty Financial soon after it launched. Sun, who reportedly had avoided setting foot on U.S. soil for fear of being arrested, had been facing civil fraud charges under the Biden administration. But Trump's Securities and Exchange Commission stayed the case against him in February. ..."
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"... Trump crypto ventures 'a whopping success'
Since Trump's election last November, his sons Don Jr. and Eric have embarked on a globetrotting investment roadshow to drum up more crypto investment deals that critics say pose conflicts of interest for the president and national security threats. The Trump brothers’ efforts have been a whopping success,” Reuters said in an Oct. 28 special report, “Inside the Trump family’s global crypto cash machine.” In the first half of 2025, the Trump Organization’s income soared 17-fold to $864 million from $51 million a year earlier, according to Reuters calculations, which it said were based on the president’s official disclosures, property records, financial records released in court cases, crypto trade information and other sources. ..."
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Do you still think that Trump doesn't know who Zhao is? Do you still think that Trump was unaware of Zhao's

Posted By: crsm27
Re: The stupidest base of followers . . . . .
The left doesn't understand that many times the President doesn't know about the case or reasoning behind any of the DOJ recommendations from pardons.     This was a DOJ recommendation.  

You think every president knows about the case they pardon.   They get the recommendation and sign off on it.


-- Modified on 11/3/2025 7:41:33 PM

edinathens 70 reads
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11 / 13
edinathens 36 reads
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12 / 13

Posted By: crsm27
Re: You think every president knows about the case they pardon.   They get the recommendation and sign off on it.
And unlike prior administrations, who has complete control over the DOJ, FBI, etc.? That's right, DJT! When he was campaigning for a second term, right off the bat, he told you he "learned his lesson" from the first term, and he would be installing sycophants in his second term.

edinathens 51 reads
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13 / 13

“I have no idea who he [CZ] is,” Trump told “60 Minutes.”  
"I have no recollection of ever meeting this lady [Virginia Giuffre], none whatsoever," he [Prince Andrew] told the BBC.

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