A very bleak assessment of things from Chalmers Johnson.
Here's an excerpt :
"History tells us that one of the most unstable political combinations is a country - like the United States today - that tries to be a domestic democracy and a foreign imperialist.
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As the US occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq turned into major fiascoes, discrediting America's military leadership, ruining its public finances, and bringing death and destruction to hundreds of thousands of civilians in those countries, I continued to ponder the issue of empire. In these years, it became ever clearer that President George W Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, and their supporters were claiming, and actively assuming, powers specifically denied to a president by the constitution. It became no less clear that the Congress had almost completely abdicated its responsibilities to balance the power of the executive branch. Despite the Democratic Party's sweep in last year's congressional election, it remains to be seen whether these tendencies can, in the long run, be controlled, let alone reversed.
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The combination of huge standing armies, almost continuous wars, an ever growing economic dependence on the military-industrial complex and the making of weaponry, and ruinous military expenses as well as a vast, bloated "defense" budget, not to speak of the creation of a whole second Defense Department (known as the Department of Homeland Security) has been destroying our republican structure of governing in favor of an imperial presidency. By republican structure, of course, I mean the separation of powers and the elaborate checks and balances that the founders of the United States wrote into the constitution as the main bulwarks against dictatorship and tyranny, which they greatly feared.
We Americans are on the brink of losing our democracy for the sake of keeping our empire. Once a nation starts down that path, the dynamics that apply to all empires come into play - isolation, overstretch, the uniting of local and global forces opposed to imperialism, and in the end bankruptcy."
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Xiao -- There's something else to be considered here that's not obvious. This critique seems really radical, but in fact many of these ideas were expressed in the early years of the Cold War by political conservatives and political liberals, for example Senator Taft and the historian Charles Beard. An odd set of bedfellows, to be sure.
In the last paragraph Johnson notes that Nemesis, a figure in Greek mythology, was the goddess of vengence and the scourge of arrogance and hubris.
There's something else here,and i wonder if Johnson kept this one to himself. The metor impact that is believed to have kicked off the extinction of the dinosaurs in appx 65 million BCE is referred to by some scientists as Nemesis.
You know, the dinosaurs. Creatures big and powerful who held swayover life on earth for millions of years [and co-starred with Raquel Welch no less!], but whose brains were far too small [according to accepted theory] to allow them to adapt to their changed environment. That's how and why the dinosaurs went the way of, well, the dinosaurs.
Is that it for the US? Our immense power not matched by adaptive intelligence, we're doomed to fail about stupidly and thrash around violently in a world we neither understand or can adapt to, in an environment [figuratively speaking] turned totally hostile to us?
Whew! Melodrama over.
OBL and his taliwacker friends alone in the ClubMedganistan they set up in the 90's.
...although I am not sure there is much difference in your case. Try responding to what XiaomingLover1 SAID, not what you guessed he said.
Maybe you thought TER is code for MENSA
"""As the US occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq turned into major fiascoes, discrediting America's military leadership, ruining its public finances, and bringing death and destruction to hundreds of thousands of civilians in those countries,"""
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So, where exactily in substance or detail do you find fault with Johnson's analysis?
1. fiasco occupations? -- sounds good to me. Or maybe you've got unique ideas as to what constitutes "success"? If so, please share.
2. discrediting America's military leadership -- I interpret this as discrediting the USA as a political entity, not as a criticism of the individual generals, who have been asked to cleanse the Augean Stables with little more than a shovel and pail better suited to kids playing on the beach ;
3. bringing death and destruction... -- wait, i get it now. Those corpses, they're all fakes! What a scam! How the hell did we fall for it? Must be the nefarious work of that liberal media. Which hates America! Yes, they're foreign and they're far away and we don't know them and we've been told that they're our "enemies" but most of these poor saps are, in any common sense of the word "victims."
Stay tuned BILLKILE, I've [sadly] got plently more posts like this backed up for your edification.
Don't take this as a personal attack, but a little kid covering his eyes hoping that the scary thing will go away and disappear seens to be the appropriate analog to your attitude.
i really should'nt spend as much time as i do on the internet so i really don't spend a whole lot of time in "deep thought" about what i see here.
I mainly screen for Asian Escort who do incall in LA and their combined averages are 8-10...That's really why I'm here..But I like to come over to this board now and then for some mudslinging...
so, when i see your post and the author does want to put US action in Afghan at parity with Iraq, first thing that comes to my minds is, KOOK! His basic assertion is flawed so i don't waste a lot of time with the rest..why should I?..I know you've no doubt got mountains of additional cites, just don't expect me to read them
I know, i know, when someone says US, you say MOssad, I get it
I'm not going to change your mind or even care to.....
now wheres my remote, american idols on..lol
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By all means, and I do mean this sincerely BK, your priorities [re the East Asian escorts] and your common sense [not reading what you expect will annoy and/or bore you] is exemplary.
I was waiting for a more appropriate moment to use this one, but I'm the impatient sort so I'll toss it in now that you've successfully baited me :
Instead of Mossad, how about moSSad? [LOL]
Ps. i've been try to work out anagrams for Mossad, but so far no luck!
PSS. East Asian incall in my neck of the woods is a total crapshoot, and i've mostly rolled snake eyes. Hope you're got a hotter hand than me!
anything bagging on the US can't be all bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osdUv7v6K6g
a good actress and quite the looker. And the bruneete coif, very interesting.
Everyone is entilted to her/his opinion, but when folks in the performing arts declaim about matters of concern to the body politic, let's just say that I almost always find myself underwhelmed.
We must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.
Dwight D. Eisenhower
We should have been paying attention.
The Vietnam War.
He was'nt talks Fats Domino........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_Theory
I don't get the Fats Domino reference. Please elaborate.
failed attempt at humor...fats/domino theory, never mind. i'm sure i'm the only too who would find irony in Ike being known for such a clarion statement ont the MI/complex and yet it was his "domino theory" which propelled us into involvement in SEA and the entire Cold War era which benefitted from it ...
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The Frence pull out of SEA certainly helped as well... (yet another MESS of a cesspool entirely created by the You're-a-peeing idiots) but under Eisenhower it was low key, minimal involvement and even under Kennedy - the escallation was mild... as a kid I remember my dad making the comment that as we lived in a town of about 20,000 or less he was surprised that a neighbor's son was killed in Viet Nam - that was about 1961-63 or so.... but nothing like what followed the assination of Kennedy when Johnson came into power.... which is what puzzles me about Z's post on Kennedy...? but I digress,
Eisenhower? yea, lot of stuff started in those years, but ironically they are remembered as 'the golden years' of America... and now 50 or so years later, I think we can all recognize that the seeds of what we now inherit were sown then... and we thought that McCarthy was the only bad idea.
Makes me wonder what this board will be discussing 50 years from now.... in spanish! lol!
Thanks a lot, BSD! I don't know if I can compose a doxen posts per day re immigration/undocumented aliens/etc.. again anytime soon to keep up with him [LOL].
he committed us to Vietnam by treaty.
America should be grateful we had a great leader as President Eisenhower. The 1950’s were a decade marked by a great political upheaval in the world and Eisenhower kept us out of fruitless bloody foreign entanglements. In Persia, the British wanted us to join them in overthrowing the Shah. In Egypt, the British and French wanted the US Army to join them to take back the Suez Canal from Nassar. The French wanted us to fight the Algerians etc. Eisenhower told them to bugger off.
He also brought our boys home from Korea.
Eisenhower specifically warned Kennedy about a protracted military engagement in Vietnam. He warned Kennedy that the Vietnamese were fighting not for communism but rather against colonialism and that any war in Southeast Asia would be a political nightmare. President Eisenhower knew the importance about having a winning military and political stratagem. God Bless, Eisenhower.
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