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Re:You missed the joke; "Shrub" is being used as a synonym for "Bush" (horticulture terminology). E
Tusayan 12835 reads
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The term Shrub was inadvertantly coined by Bush himself, as pointed out by Molly Ivins in her book.  Bush thinks he can speak Spanish and named one of his failed oil companies Arbusto Energy, believing (wrongly) that arbusto was Spanish for Bush.  Actually, the translation for arbusto is shrub, aka W.

NeedleDicktheBugFucker11971 reads

that bothers me. It is the tone of political discourse in "today's politics".

The 2 events were the passing of Ronald Reagan, and the ensuing discussion surrounding his life and times. And the Normandy invasion, particularly those who landed on Omaha, and the character of the men involved.

It was noted that Reagan and Bush were the last Presidents who's characters were really shaped by both the Great Depression and WWII. Those who landed on Omaha were born and raised during the Depression and indeed their actions decided WWII. Our last 2 Presidents, a large majority of members of both houses of Congress, and damn near everyone else in politics today, were not.

As Reagan's legacy was being discussed they spoke of the battles between he and Speaker of the House Tip O'Neill. Without going into the nature, and the merits of these battles, what was noteworthy was that they were conducted without attacking each other personally. It is said that Tip and Ron had a great deal of respect for one another. They just had different ideas and that is what was debated.

Of course the courage and character of the men of Omaha goes without saying but I believe it is that character, forged out of adversity, that is lacking today.

BK

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The four best "Republican" presidents in my lifetime are:
1. Nixon (he was the smartess the one who started to re-define the Republic party and creted a new US international policy, unfortunaltey he couldn't complete his job)
2. Reagan and Clinton. Reagan completed with success Nixon's vision of a new Republican party and the success in foreign policy which led to the fall of the Soviets). Clinton (great brain and as smart as Nixon).
3. Kennedy (I was only 2 when he died, but I read enough to consider him a president of my lifetime).  

The worse Rebuplican (without the quotation marks) presidents in my lifetime:
The worse of all time is the current President W. Bush, he's  totally insane. The next worse was his father the other Bush.

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and frankly, his performance as President has shown that he is unworthy of our respect.  I disagreed with most of Reagan's policies, but he earned my respect as a leader, and as a human being, and by his willingness to work WITH the opposition for the betterment of the nation.  Bush has not done so, and he has in fact made it a matter of policy not to do so.  He is either "Shrub" or "Dumbya" in my book at all times, until he proves himself worthy of the position which he was appointed to.

He is arrogant in the extreme, unquestioning of the consequences of his actions, and he has had no compunction against acting unilaterally without the electoral mandate of the public he serves.  And for that, he is "Shrub" or "Dumbya".  Mr President is a title that one earns, and Bush has not earned it.

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KCMOSHYGUY8244 reads

Not only has he not earned the respect that should go with being President based on his performance on the job, he didn't earn the right to even become President in the first place.  Never forget the 2000 election fiasco in Florida, with the hanging chads, missing ballots, and the bureaucratic bullshit Shrub's brother, Florida's Secretary of State, and the courts shovelled out so Dumbya would win the White House.

If Roger Maris was forced to have an asterisk next to his name in the baseball record books after breaking Babe Ruth's home run record, Shrub/Dumbya should be forced to have an asterisk next to his when his name is listed among our country's presidents.

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NeedleDicktheBugFucker8587 reads

That may be the case but it is terribly ineffective at changing someone else's mind. When I see people calling him "shrub" and quoting a partisan like Molly Ivins, I know I'm talking to someone who has been drinking too much of "The Parties" kool-aid".

I have come to take a different view of Bush's presidency that when he first came to office but it has not been from having sent a minute talking with the Micheal Moore, "Bush was in on it crowd".

What you have here is essentially a circle jerk. The choir, in love with it's own voice.

I think lockstep partisanship is for fools.

Best,

BK

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sdstud10122 reads

And THOSE folks may very well be susceptible, on a subconscious level, to the repeated drumbeat that Bush is an idiot, so long as it is always accompanied by an explanation of WHY he is an idiot.  Consciously, they might actually not think so, but subconsciously, when they hear it OVER and OVER and OVER again, it will make inroads.

Plus, it REALLY pisses off Bush's supporters, which makes it worthwhile in and of itself.

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committed, those who can be swayed by childish namecalling?

I think that says a lot about the intellectual content of your message.

Oh and, your last sentence validates my use of the descriptor "childish".

BK

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Bush is SO BAD for the future of this nation, that the end justifies the means.  Surely, Republicans can relate to that mindset.  You reap what you sow, and Bush has sown the seeds of this view.  




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NeedleDicktheBugFucker11057 reads

"the end justifies the means"

Was that Marx, or Lenin?

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james869135 reads

but unlike sdstud and you, I've never replied to my own posts.

And BTW, I've never posted agreement as "Ding Chavez" with something I've posted as "james86."

Building phony support and ballot-box stuffing is a Democrat tactic, not a Republican one.

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2sense9298 reads

Hmmm! Let me see, james86 = Ding Chavez, so is Ding Chavez the Hispanic Doppelganger of james86? This opens up a whole new parallel universe for james86 to inhabit.

You really are hilarious! ROTFLOL

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