So Obama saved the auto industry?
They took OUR money, the $$ Obama gave them and now say what?

Let's give RR a chance to 'save' the industry??

http://washingtonexaminer.com/jeep-an-obama-favorite-looks-to-shift-production-to-china/article/2511703#.UIl4z0bCz8B

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/no-jeep-isn-t-moving-factories-production-china-205828426.html

In a P&R world of stupid, mis-informed, right-wing Kool-Ade drinkers, nu-ass is the most moronic.  Debating with him is an exercise in futility.

...I'm not trying to convince him of anything. Just to demoralize him enough by making him look stupid so that he doesn't post as often.

............campaign. I spend a lot of time checking claims at poltifact.com and while they take both campaigns on, it seems that Romney gets a lot more "false" and "pants on fire" ratings than his opponent.

I highly recommend this website for impartial analysis of campaign claims. There research is outstanding!

Most likely,  somewhere in between lies the REAL TRUTH.

JMHO

-- Modified on 10/26/2012 3:04:22 AM

Kinda like Laffy who in left wing world   (and honestly,  I have nothing against your believes,  if they are expressed with integrity and decency)   has nothing to say but  foul, nasty, unpleasant, disagreeable,  horrible, abominable,  offensive, obnoxious, odious, unsavory, repulsive, disgusting, distasteful, loathsome, hateful, nauseating, sickening; disgraceful, appalling, shocking, sorry,  shameful, dishonorable, execrable, heinous, abhorrent, deplorable, monstrous, wicked, evil, iniquitous, nefarious, depraved, debased; contemptible, despicable, reprehensible  words.  God I hope your Willy when the race is over,  he is GONE.  He is a  disgrace to this board,  left or right.

Again JMHO

Laffy calling anyone stupid is the pot calling the kettle black. He's dumber than a rock, and more obnoxious than Rush Limbaugh at an oxycotin festival.

I'll leave him be until the election is over, but if he doesn't keep his word and scram after the election, I'm going to report his infractions on this board each and every time. The same goes for the other board trolls.

We used to have a serious problem with a troll named liorr on this board. He was horrible here, but he destroyed the sports board. It wasn't long before he lost all posting privileges.

I have long taken the position to never report anyone. But for you, I will make the exception.

Always trying to deflect his behavior.

Laffy and jeff are 1000 times worse than Liorr or any other "troll".  Liorr just made a massive number 0f stupid posts.  Laffy is a toxic human being.

I figure since it's election season, I'll let the trolls have their fun. But after the election, all bets are off. I will freely report any violations I see.

Hell, liorr spent most of his time posting incoherent gibberish, and when he wasn't doing that, he was threatening to beat me up.

But Laffy is far, far worse. He is a troll's troll. Stupid, loud, obnoxious, and childish. I've often wondered what he looks like, and I imagine he's the sort of person who doesn't bathe regularly, has cheesy poof dust in his hair, and his clothes are covered in dried boogers and fecal matter.

He's a moron's moron. A cretin's cretin. A boil on the arse of a tumor.

Ann Coulter has more humility than him. Sarah Palin has more brains than him. He's about as likeable as diarrhea, and probably smells worse too.

...even if you tried.

But if you want to give it the ole college try, here you go.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=16802&boardID=33&page=

Nuguy is just as bad a troll as you. He's probably dumber than you. But you're worse, since you're more obnoxious and childish than him.

with one link you clear up a misrepresentation and with the next you put forward a misrepresentation.

Romney has been gone from Bain for at least what, a decade?

Don'tThink.org

...that you saw anything coming. And you didn't see anything coming, I'm sure you were just parroting shit you read on Daily Kos.

I don't think there's anyone on this board I've been meaner to than nuguy.

Cartman and Needle both can get riled up from time to time, but most conservatives here are civil if you're civil with them. I don't often agree with them, but we can disagree without being disagreeable.

I agree with you most of the time, and I still find you disagreeable. That should tell you something.

It's basic human nature to respond to people in kind. If you're an obnoxious prick, then people are obnoxious pricks to you. If they're an obnoxious prick, and you're civil, they tend to be civil with you.

When you prove to someone that you're smart, well-informed, polite and civil, people tend to respect you. When you're an obnoxious, it reflects more on you than it does on who you're trying to attack.

You are THE Biiiiiiigggggggeeeeeessssstttttttt Lyyyyyyyyiiiinnnggggg ASSSSSHHHHOOOLLLLEEEEE HYPOCRITE here.

You're shit gets shoved right back in your childish face with so much regularity only a moron like jeff cant see it.

Not to mention you are a real whiny cunt too BTW.

There's a bit of confusion on this. This board is technically unmoderated, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have any rules.

When GaG was moderating this board, it was still technically "unmoderated".

I will report whenever I feel it's warranted, and I will do so without bias.

Like I said, people tend to respond in kind. You'll notice that Cartman didn't try any name calling with me. Why? Because I didn't do it to him. Yes, the path to being treated more civilly is to sometimes turn the other cheek. It's not the end of the world if you do.

Offers are meaningless. Your offers hold no weight because no one respects you. If you want them to respect you, then just be the better man. No one is going to give your complaints a second's thought because you've pissed everyone off.

Just be more civil. Win the debate by actually winning it. Not by being the more obnoxious prick. It reflects far more on you than the person you're attacking.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=196582&boardID=39&page=1#196582

******CRICKETS******

Hahaha arrogant asswipe!!!!!

Hope you do stick around after the election, you make a great douche/punching bag!!!!

Outsmarting them. Winning the debate. Being civil. Winning with facts. Proving your facts.

Laffy, when you behave like an obnoxious child, you ARE NOT WINNING.

...Laffy, when you call everyone stupid, no one actually believes that. They just think you're an asshole. Why do you think that is?

And you call THAT predicting the housing crisis??????

Anyone who has lived thru a credit cycle knew we were in the late stages and shit was gonna hit the fan. Fuck I knew THAT but I dont run around beatin my chest that "I PREDICTED THE HOUSING CRISIS"!!!!!!

Your hero OBAMA who's ass you tongue daily did'nt know and here we are 4 years later and the fuckwad still has'nt figured it out and you want to lick his throne so you can suck his dick for 4 more years.

What a fucking clueless twerp you are.

I don't think reporting someone should be the first option. For instance, I know that just calling someone out, will usually fix whatever needs to be addressed. Asking politely goes a long way.

But I can be reasonably sure that if I ask Buggy politely, he will respond in kind, at least to me. He won't with you, because you're not well liked around here. I would wager that you're the most disliked person here on the this board.

There's usually not much you can do to modify a troll's behavior. That's why they're called trolls. That's why nuguy is a troll. And yes, I'm sure if he's still around after the election, he'll get reported if he doesn't change his posting behavior.

I'm not giving you excuses, Laffy. I'm being as up front and honest as I can. Your word is meaningless here. Why? Because no one respects you. Instead of offering them any kind of deal, just be the better man.

It's basic psychology. What if nuguy offered to you to stop trolling if you did the same? You would likely think "fuck this guy, I hate him" and ignore his offer. Why do you think people would think any differently about any offer you made?

Instead of making offers, just be the better man. That's all you gotta do.

...Look at the discussion I had with Cartman earlier. I think it's pretty clear I won that. Of course, it would be impolite for me to take some kind of obnoxous victory lap and demand they admit defeat.

Winning the debate is more important than claiming victory. Just like making the touchdown is more important than the end-zone dance. Besides, no one likes a braggart.

You think it is pretty clear you won?!!  Willy- you are famously wrong about everything.  You should be like George Costanza and do the exact opposite.  But we are arguing about polls and future election results.  If Obama wins you were correct, if Romney wins....

That being said, I made my points and you made your's.  It doesn't have to go on & on where the last person to post is officially the "winner".  That is what sucks about boards in general.  You will never see Laffy not get the last post.  It can go on forever if necessary.

You lump people together, when there's no merit to it, and then you name call.

I don't like to use the ignore button. First off, I really prefer the classic version of this site, and the ignore feature only works on the new version. Plus, I'd rather see what everyone has to say.

But c'mon, man. Don't you think enough is enough? If you wanted to express what you think of the conservatives on this board, I think you've made your point and then some.

If someone says that Obama is the worst President ever, then all you gotta do is prove that they're wrong. That doesn't mean starting a reply with "hahahahahaha!" in the subject line and saying "you suck Bush and Romney's cock!" in your reply.

That's not winning a debate. That's not having a debate at all. I mean, Christ, who the fuck does that? It's clear that you're a big fan of Jon Stewart, as am I. Do you see Stewart winning a debate by saying "you suck Bush's and Mitt's dick!"

Is it really that hard for you not to just be a nasty person?

You know, I spent several years studying psychology, and I could probably accurately describe to the board why you behave the way you do. But I won't.

All I can say is that you will feel better once you've decided to just be civil.

Of course this is you "winning" again and of course EVERYBODY argues the same as you and calls people "an ignorant fuck". Everybody!!  Do you pat yourself on the back when you call people "Gilligan" and "Gomer"?  

I am so incredibly embarrassed for you. No one in the history of this board, at least since I've been around, has had to be lectured to like you.

You saying you have Jeff's respect is like nuguy claiming to have FM's respect. It's laughable.

I don't give anyone a pass. Maybe I don't respond to every single post here that I disagree with, but I don't give anyone a pass. I think Mein (Sappy)'s is off his rocker in coo-coo conspiracy land, but I can't tell you how much respect I have for the guy for his intellect. See, it's possible to disagree with someone without being disagreeable. That's not giving someone "a pass". It's behaving like a civilized human being.

You can only have "buddies" on this board if you treat others like you would like to be treated. You know, the Golden Rule.

Now before you read this and get all pissed off at me, and take out your anger in an angry reply, might I suggest you do something else.

Instead of posting a reply, just read what I've said again. Don't think of what I'm saying as a judgement against you. Think of it just me giving you advice. Does my advice have any merit?

Laffy, it's okay to admit that you're wrong. When I'm wrong, as I have been MANY times on this board, I've accepted it, learned from my mistakes, and moved on. That's part of what being the better man is. Learning to accept your mistakes and learning something from it.

I'm trying to accomplish something here, lol.

Willy- Are you going to argue with a brick wall next?  You will get the same result.

...that I'm the eternal optimist. Maybe I just have more patience than I have brain cells.

I have my bitch on a leash.

you should be a marraige counsler.

...when Laffy calls someone "Gilligan" that's about as close as he gets to being civil. He really should try harder.

I'm going to have to assume you are getting-off on this.

When have you ever admitted that you're wrong?

We are witnessing a man unravel.

I'd like to point you the following board rule:

"Bartering-related posts are not allowed."

So, in other words, if someone wanted to report you, they could.

You have my word that I won't.

...but is the reason why you respect Jeff's intellect more than mine because you think he's smarter than me, or is it because he's your only troll, I mean, friend on this board?

Through George Romney.

...you point out their stupidity. Remember how I made nuguy the laughing stock of the board in regards to gas prices?

Calling them stupid is just stupid. It reflects more on you than it does anyone else.

...it doesn't apply to me, so I barely know what's in it. I'm more than happy to let Jeff cover that topic.

Cartman isn't a troll because when you're civil with him, he's civil in kind. Yes, he gets out of hand from time to time, as does Buggy, and a few others. The difference is that they tend to respond well to civil discourse. Jeff seems to respond to it as well. For some reason, you just don't.

Why is it so hard for you to behave like a civil human being? Jesus, I hope you're not like this in person. No one would be able to take you anywhere.

The point is that after you showed up, you made it worse. A LOT worse.

You're not bartering anything? Didn't you just offer a $1000 bet?

Look, I don't make the rules here. The rules are the rules, whether I like it or not. And it's against the rules to make bets.

Now, you're quite right that I harrassed nuguy about it to get him to shut the fuck up, but you'll notice nobody reported me. Do you know why? Because a little respect and civility goes a long way.

...are you going to tell me that nuguy isn't a retard?

Yes, it IS different when I do it.

Don't believe me? Do a search of your handle and "stupid". Do another search of your handle and "moron". You will get a combined 56 posts you have written containing those two words in just the last 30 days.

Feel free to to do the same search of my handle. Do tell the board what the results are.

It doesn't mean avoiding pissing you off. I will read posts that piss me off all the time, but are still civil. Nuguy is about as intellectually dishonest as they come. Quite an accomplishment, since he doesn't have much of an intellect at all.

You know how you combat intellectual dishonesty? You prove that they're being intellectually dishonest. You know how you don't accomplish this? Calling somebody an idiot, moron, or a dumbass, or behaving like an obnoxious jackass.

Just be civil. That's all I'm asking.

-- Modified on 10/26/2012 2:23:57 PM

I wasn't crying about anything. I could care less about your wager. However, there are others on this board you REALLY REALLY REALLY don't like you. And they will use any excuse they can get to report you.

Yes, making bets is a no-no around here. Officially, it's a no-no.

No one reported me because they knew I wasn't being serious. For instance, when I made an offer that if Obama wins, Nuguy has to promise to never post here again, and if Romney wins I will let him shit in my mouth, everyone knows I'm saying that just to be humorous. And people around here like me well enough that they'll let shit like that slide.

Do you think they will let it slide with you? I don't think so.

The point is, is that eventually, all of us break one rule or another. It happens. Whether you get a pass on it or not depends on whether people around here like you. If everyone hates your guts, no one is gonna let you slide on anything.

So yes, there are a lot of advantages to being civil around here.

I intenstionally misquoted him out of context just to piss him off. Man, you can't let that shit bother you. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. But talking about ramming shit up someone's ass, that's just...would you talk to your mother that way?

I'm just trying to help you out. After the election, things will change around here, and things will not be so lax as they were. I just want you to be prepared for that so you don't lose your posting privileges.

not on a leash?

betcha $10,000 he reads this post.

How do you think they're trying to do that? By calling you names?

I can agree to ignore you completely until election day if you can agree to stay gone after election day.

Seems the reporter does not write clear either ......

Quote :
Fiat majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-21/fiat-says-china-may-build-all-jeep-models-as-suv-demand-climbs.html