8 out of the 12 baby's born in the USA or born to illegal



laws now or focusing on having no automatic citizen ship for kids born to parents of illegals



http://www.theamericanresistance.com/issues/anchor_babies.html







http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/should-anchor-babies-be-allowed-citizenship/question-1062069/



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County’s Monthly Welfare Tab for Illegal Aliens $52 Million/month



As the mainstream media focuses on a study that reveals a sharp decline in the nation’s illegal immigrant population, monthly welfare payments to children of undocumented aliens increased to $52 million in one U.S. county alone.



The hoopla surrounding last week’s news that the annual flow of illegal immigrants into the U.S. dropped by two-thirds in the past decade overlooked an important matter; the cost of educating, incarcerating and medically treating illegal aliens hasn’t decreased along with it, but rather skyrocketed to the tune of tens of billions of dollars annually.



Those figures don’t even include the extra millions that local municipalities dish out on welfare payments to the U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants, commonly known as anchor babies. In Los Angeles County alone that figure increased by nearly $4 million in the last year, sticking taxpayers with a whopping $52 million tab to provide illegal immigrants’ offspring with food stamps and other welfare benefits for just one month.





About a quarter of the county’s welfare and food stamp issuances go to parents who reside in the United States illegally and collect benefits for their anchor babies, according to the figures from L.A. County’s Department of Social Services. Nationwide, Americans pay around $22 billion annually to provide illegal immigrants with welfare perks that include food assistance programs such as free school lunches in public schools, food stamps and a nutritional program (known as WIC) for low-income women and their children







http://www.themoralliberal.com/2010/09/07/countys-monthly-welfare-tab-for-illegal-aliens-52-million/





Hispanics "accounted for more than one-half of all US population growth."



America's going non-white! It's been long reported that the U.S. is projected to be minority-majority by 2042. Now researchers from Cornell and the University of New Hampshire say, "for America's children and youth, that future is here already": In the Census year that ended in July of 2008, 48 percent of the children born in the U.S.A. were from minority-group parents.

The growth is mainly among Hispanic parents. Between 2000 and 2008, says the report by Professors Kenneth Johnson and Daniel Lichter, Hispanics "accounted for more than one-half of all US population growth."



Also, while the nation's African-American population is still "concentrated disproportionately in the largest and oldest US central cities," Hispanics are spreading to the hinterlands; the report says the Hispanic population "is dispersing rapidly -- though selectively -- from traditional gateway cities in the Southwest," not only to surrounding suburbs, but also "rapidly in many rural parts of Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, North Carolina, and Georgia."



Professors Johnson and Lichter suggest the growth is due to an influx of fertile Hispanic women. They're having an average of 2.99 babies apiece, while white women are having 1.87.



Please show this report to an old bigot near you. Then play 'em some Black Flag!









http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/03/hispanic_kids_4.php









http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archi

Children born to non-US citizens could be barred from American birth certificates

One of the politicians behind Arizona's controversial immigration law has called for children born to non-US citizens to be barred from getting American birth certificates.

Under the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution any child born in the country has an automatic right to citizenship regardless of their parents' legal status.

But Republican State Senator Russell Pearce will introduce a bill later this year to target so-called "anchor babies," which he says are used by illegal immigrants to stay in the country.

When they become adults the children can sponsor their parents for legal permanent residency.

An estimated four million children became US citizens after being born to illegal immigrant parents on US soil in 2008.

Senator Pearce, who sponsored that law, said the fact babies born to illegal immigrant parents become US citizens was "the most irrational and self-defeating provision you could have."

He said those who had written the 14th Amendment in 1868 had never anticipated the "deluge" that would come.

"I want to bring a little common sense and integrity back," he said.

"It's illegal to enter the United States and yet we are going to create the greatest inducement to breaking our law, and entering illegally, and that's making your baby a citizen."

Opponents of the proposed bill say it is contrary to the Constitution and the American spirit.

The right of Arizona to attempt to deny US citizenship could ultimately end up in the US Supreme Court.

The 14th Amendment was drafted in order to secure the citizenship and Constitutional rights of freed slaves and their children

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7827706/Children-born-to-non-US-citizens-could-be-barred-from-American-birth-certificates.html

Illegal is illegal, I don't care how you attempt to sugar coat it. Political/legal interpretation of the 14th Amendment is as varied as it is with the 2nd Amendment.

Btw, if you check it out, children born to foreign diplomats that have family members give birth while on our soil, are NOT given U.S. citizenship by law.

As you said, simply make meaningful punishments to those that hire illegals. No jobs, no problems. What could be simpler.

I don't believe the real problem is that we have  millions of illegals, It's that the illegals use an inordinate amount of social services and don't balance the scales in taxes. As an employer I wouldn't mind if a large portion of making sure illegals pay their fair share landed on me. I think it would be a relatively small burden on businesses to ensure that their employees were properly documented and that taxes are withheld from their checks and paid to the treasury by the employer in the form of withholding and payroll taxes.

I hire relatively few young people myself come to think of it, as you mention they seem to have an "entitlement" mentality that makes them very poor employees. Can you imagine hiring a staff full of WillyWonkas?  Those type of employees don't make it through the first day with me. Working in the oil fields is not for the lazy or the spoiled I'd love to see how long someone like Willy would last. lol

But would you say the same thing, if a French award winning author and his East Indian wife who is a doctor moved to the USA, and happened to have a baby? That's not a rhetorical question, I actually want you to answer.

Let's say what you are proposing was always in effect. Then probably 40% or more of the people here would not be citizens.

How many Chinese/Japanese immigrants came to America to help build the Transcontinental Railroad? Now their children and grandchildren helped make Silicon Valley a place in the world where America still rules as #1. Many of those who worked in the garment and meat packing district of NY were immigrants. Let's not forget our favorite play place, Las Vegas - immigrants and children of immigrants because Vegas was the open without any prejudice and such they would get back in other major cities. MGM is here because of immigrants and the children of immigrants.  Don't you see how immigration is woven into our entire history?

It's all about perspective. Once upon a time, it was the Irish, Italians and Jews that were hated. Then the Asians, now Latinos.

I think your real problem stems from a couple different factors:

1. The country and world are in economic crisis. You feel a pinch, so the motto of "work hard and you can have the American Dream" seems like an empty promise to you and so many others. Easy thing to do is blame someone else.

2. Population is booming so resources and space are not as abundant as they once were. This is true all over the world. When resources are low - people get scared and act in ways you could never imagine. So immigration before was okay because there was plenty to go around. Now, this is not the case.

The amendment which makes anyone born in the US a citizen was put in place to protect Black slaves and their children. So let's say your (and other's) discomfort with the children of immigrants (illegal or not) being automatic citizens is penance for America's greatest sin.

were brought here illegally? I don't know the answer but it does make an obvious difference. However, even if it were the case it would not be a valid arguement to continue what is considered an untenable practice today.

As a counter, what has been the effect on wages of US citizens by the huge supply of illegal workers?

I am the descendent of a once illegal Chinese immigrant, and another legal immigrant (as most Americans are).

If you don't know the answer a little Google, or Wikipedia will solve that.

As for illegal workers, I know very few illegal immigrants who work jobs that are considered attractive. Only one area, that might be one citizens crave would be landscaping, and construction. But all of those are run by legal/licensed contractors who hire illegals because they can pay them less, and not be hassled with them causing too much trouble.

I used to work as a house cleaner, and hotel maid when in college, and every other maid was an immigrant, illegal or not. Often HR, and hotel guests were surprised I, (an American), would be in such a position. I was even told once "Why are you doing this? It's beneath you. Let those Latins do it. You could work at an office or something." I also saw first hand how many of those women were treated in comparison to me. It was deplorable.

Many illegals don't go to regular doctors or hospitals for fear or getting caught. When victims of crime, they don't report it.

This isn't a problem of illegals, the problem is in the process, attitude and lack of understanding on both sides.

Much more complex, than just "Let's not let them be citizens," or "Send them home."

Kisses,
Vanica

to be "beneath them". i have been an employer for over 30 years. in that time what i have seen is a society that on one hand looks down on entry level work as being "beneath them", (jobs that when I was in high school everyone wanted) and a society that wonders why wages have not kept up. when yu dilute your work force, that's what you get. the other thing is that over the timeframe i was hiring, i noticed the average kid being lazier, less educated, and generally spoiled and disrespectful.

if we have a need for certain types of workers they can just follow the process like everyone else. if someone is hiring illegals they should be subject to prosecution.

lack of order is chaos

he's like a bunch of spoiled kids these days with zero sense of what things are worth.

its really a shame. kids have been brought up in homes that properly value education but the education system they've been fed into is failing even though we pour billions into it. they wind up on college campuses with shit work habits and level with subpar educations and no fucking work ethic.

i had a VP with an international energy company offer me a job in the area of commodity trading due to my experience with it. i told him i had no college education and he said that was a good thing. the practical experience i had couldnt be taught in school anyways and all the college grads he was seeing were walking into interviews with the attitude that their role would be telling him how to do his job better. he liked the fact that i was at his house at 9pm on a saturday night following up on a promise i made.

the guy has been selling the bottom half of a barrel of oil for 15 years and the kid from yale wants to tell him how to do his job! lol

RE immigration, no doubt the chamber of commerce bought off on cheap labor and the dnc likes the growing voting block. as usual, its the private sector taxpayer that takes it in the rump.

Are not given automatically citizenship, but are given green cards and/or permanent resident status, making acquiring citizenship more of a formality.

However, it is not law (enacted by Congress) that bars them from citizenship, but rather a rule set by US Dept of Foreign Affairs.

At the age of fifteen I was working 16-18 hour days in a fucking pipe yard which I alternated with 20-30 hour "mud runs" which entailed carrying 100 lb. sacks of mud onto barges for ballast. We would typically start at midnight, work through the night, the next day, and finally finish up just before light the following morning. All this for $1.25 minus room and board.

I guarantee if a little government paper pusher ever had to work this hard you would be crying for your mommy before the first day was over.

My "sense of entitlement" comes from thirty five years of sweat, there is nothing wrong with starting at the bottom, it gives you a better sense of perspective, and gives me the satisfaction of knowing that I will always be a better man than a little piss ant government parasite like you.

Ok Mari, where do I send the check? lol

This is a complex situation.