You get upset that we can't completely rebuild a country, form a now government, form a new army, and repair centuries old tribal and religious rifts within 3 or 4 years. But the Milosevic trial was going swimmingly? How many years did this trial go? (7-8?)They didn't have shit on him. Who was prosecuting him, Marcia Clark? He was defending his country against fucking fanatics that strap dynamite around their bodies and run in schools. Wow, mass graves! A lot of people get killed in a war. Shocker! Hey, how about those mass graves in Iraq. Did you shed a tear for them?? Was that ethnic cleansing too?
We could have defeated Saddam W/ out one troop loss as well. We could have bombed the fuck out of it from the sky for months on end like we did with Kosovo. But we are actually serious about rebuilding it and letting them run it as a democracy where the school curriculum isn't "How to nail 72 virgins and kill a lot of Jews at the same time". Any mention on that collateral damage? Let me guess, "The Nation" said it wasn't so bad.
Keep reading "The Nation" and defending "The Religion of Peace". And don't forget to give Cuba the kudos they deserve too. So far you have found a way to praise every shitty muslim and communist country out there but not have one good thing to say about America.
But good news. We found a dictator you didn't like. Milosevic! Christian dictators suck. Muslim and communist dictators rule! I don't know how you guys look in the mirror.
First off, not married. Once was though and take an adultery charge very serious. Not my style. You say your using logic? Logic by once again calling me a hypocrite. Howard Dean-style logic. You read into some kind of polygamy/ adultery equation. I never said it or hinted at it. (Read my explanation in the thread below) But Ok, I'm a hypocrite because I hobby and I'm a Repub. Here are the new standards for hypocricy for libs:
1) You can't own a car. Public transportation only. You may drive a hybrid only if going to Bush protests. Oil=Bad!! But no nukes either!
2) You must donate every non-essential dollar back to the government. There is someone who always needs it more than you. How dare you try to keep the money you earned for yourself! The government has far better uses for it.
3) You can not work for or invest in any kind of corporation.
4) You can not send you're child to private school.
5) You can not take a job or attend a school if it means a minority won't get in. You also can't hire a non-minority if you own a business.
6) If you ever use a non-politically correct word at anytime in your life you must apologize at once to a representative of the offending party and ask to be sued and lose your job! You must always be defined by that.
7) You must not be consulted about your 13 year old daughter's abortion. It's her choice and you don't know what is best for her. But, if her school giver her an aspirin without your permission, you have authorization to sue them.
8) You must never condemn a whole group of people and try to characterize them. That would be very close-minded. But you are required to put down the entire Christian faith and anyone who believes in it. You must also resent them for then not voting for your candidate after disparaging every last one of them. (PS- not a Christian myself so save it)
9) If a Democrat goes to war and firebombs a city non-stop for a month to end their civil war (Kosovo) you must be 100% for it and not concern yourself with the civilian casualties or if it actually did any good. But if a Republican goes to war you must be all about world peace.
If you violate any of these standards of hypocricy you will no longer have a valid opinion. And anything you say will be ignored and called hypocritical. Best of luck!
1. If I could walk to the end of my driveway, wait 10-15 for a bus to pick me up and take me to a subway stop or grocery store, I'd be so giddy I'd probably shit my pants
2. If I had to pay a little more in taxes so every person in this country could afford to get sick once in a while, so be it. If that means I'll have an advocate to force the drug companies into realistic pricing I'm all for it.
3. I can't work for a corporation, damn! I always dreamed of being a cog in an endless machine. Can't invest in them, after Enron, why would I want to? If you want to however, be my guest.
4. Private schools are way over-rated. Trust me, I went to one.
5. Affirmative action only applies to public jobs and public schools. The private sector engages in this by choice.
6. I'm politically incorrect every day. I only say something if I mean it. To apologize for saying what I think would be unfair to me. I don't use words like nigger and spic. With that said I'll gladly call someone an asshole. For that I won't apologize. If I deem you to be an asshole, it's because the shoe fits you well.
7. If my 13 year old gets knocked up it's because I don't care enough to pay attention to what she's doing. So if she gets an abortion what the fuck do I care anyway? When 13 year olds come home pregnant, chances are, your failure as a parent started long before she ever started screwing 25 year old guys.
8. When that group fails to police and regulate itself and the actions they undertake in the name of that group, then I'm going to lump them together. And I'm not talking about Christians either.
9. A democrat went to war with the backing of the UN and NATO. In your little tirade you forgot to point out that the democrats did the same thing to Dresden during the second world war. But again, we did so with allies who would one day be referred to as NATO. When this current Republican went to war, I just wanted to know why. One day it was WMDs, the next it was to oust a dictator, then it was terrorism. So which one is it? Perhaps if we could clearly define an objective I could be more supportive.
1) The earth is melting in front of our eyes and you won't even carpool. Al Gore would slap your face! Hypocrite!
2)If you had to pay more taxes?? What's stopping you? It's for the greater good! Lead the way. Kennedy, Kerry, and Edwards have tax shelters but you can lead by example. The Children Are Starving!! Hypocrite!
3) Fine, don't work for a corporation or invest in one. BTW, there are a couple of more corps out there other than Enron and Halliburton. You're not a hypocrite but you're probably broke.
PS- Yes, I would like fries with that.
4) Congratulation, you had the OPTION to go to a private school. The Limo Libs don't want kids other than their's to attend one. Hypocrite!
5) Last time I checked the public sector is a pretty big employer. BTW the privatre sector doesn't feel like getting sued or protested by Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. There is no "choice".
6)Wow, did you just call me an asshole? Don't worry I'm not a member of a special interest group. I can't sue you.
7) Awesom! It's the parents fault so lets keep them out of any decisions.. The government will take care of it all. Congratualtion, you're not a hypocrite. You're all for children having abortions with out parental consent. I wish I could be so enlightened.
8) Why so cryptic?
9) The Global Test! Wasn't that the exact time and place when Kerry lost the election? If only the UN backed it then it would have been OK. Russia, China, and France definitely have America's interest at heart. They had nothing to gain by keeping Hussein in power. You keep telling yourself that.
Sorry Newbie. You were a hypocrite on a couple of issues so you officially have been invalidated. Anything you say won't be taken seriously. I will respond back by calling you names... On second thought, nah. That's what Democrats always do and they can't seem to win any election from that strategy. I guess you're too smart for America. (The Gore Theory). Good luck in November guys. I'm sure Nancy Pelosi will take you to the promise land (Can't stop laughing...must stop laughing)! Just keep pushing the partial-birth abortion and higher taxes. America loves that stuff.
It's like 100 vs 1 on this board and you guys can't do any better?
I can't believe you guys are so serious about this on a hobbyist board. I never discuss sex and politics before 8 pm..lol I lean toward right-winger but I can't go all the way.. I am one of those minorities you speak of..lol
BTW; Excellent point on # 7 MB, I agree totally.
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I don’t believe that sex, politics or religion should ever be discussed in the same venue.
Quit sniping at each other and take your asses back to D.C..lol
Not sure what you're smoking or drinking but maybe when you're not so high we can have a factual discussion. Obviously that can't happen with someone who can't distinguish between the rationale for the US involvement in Kosovo vs. the invasion of Iraq. BTW, perhaps you can provide us details of when the US firebombed Kosovo instead of using conventional explosives.
Clinton was so proud of the fact that America had nothing to gain from doing this. Please tell me you remember him saying that?! So there was no rationale other than he sided W/ muslims over christians in a centuries old battle that only paused when the Iron Curtain controlled it. He then got NATO "involved" but never got a UN resolution. They never deployed one land troop. They blew the shit out of it from the sky. An extended "Shock & Awe". That war crimes court never had anything on Milosevic. That is why he stewed there for so long with nothing ever happening. Him dropping dead saved them any further embarrassment. The reports of his "abuses" were way exaggerated by the media. Just like they always exaggerate when Israel responds to terrorist attacks. The long term result is nothing there has really changed. The media got bored with it.
To answer your 2nd question: I'm high on a combo of Horny Goat Weed and Nyquil. It's good stuff. You should give it a try. Salud
all those independent photos and reports of Serbian atrocities were all imaginary, just like Dachau was imaginary. Media creations, you know. Just trying to sell papers.
But the State Dept country reports, the photos on the front page ot Time, these were done by Jews. They've been on the rag ever since 1945. Just no sense of humor. I can't understand why.
"he sided W/ muslims over christians"
Good god the Serbians were ethnically clensing the Muslims. And we found the mass graves to prove it. Several Serbs have been tried and convited for crimes against humanity. And Milosivic's trial was going very, very poorly for him because they had a ton of evidence against him (Tip to future evil dictators: Don't write anything down).
How the hell did your head get so far up your ass that you think mass graves are a good thing because Clinton stopped them? (And btw, he stopped them without a single US combat casualty.)
Usually I try to be fairly reasoned, but this shit is way beyond the pale. Is Holocaust Denial coming next?
and besides, what's the problem with cleaning people? They should be grateful when they go to the showers. Filthy little pigs.
You get upset that we can't completely rebuild a country, form a now government, form a new army, and repair centuries old tribal and religious rifts within 3 or 4 years. But the Milosevic trial was going swimmingly? How many years did this trial go? (7-8?)They didn't have shit on him. Who was prosecuting him, Marcia Clark? He was defending his country against fucking fanatics that strap dynamite around their bodies and run in schools. Wow, mass graves! A lot of people get killed in a war. Shocker! Hey, how about those mass graves in Iraq. Did you shed a tear for them?? Was that ethnic cleansing too?
We could have defeated Saddam W/ out one troop loss as well. We could have bombed the fuck out of it from the sky for months on end like we did with Kosovo. But we are actually serious about rebuilding it and letting them run it as a democracy where the school curriculum isn't "How to nail 72 virgins and kill a lot of Jews at the same time". Any mention on that collateral damage? Let me guess, "The Nation" said it wasn't so bad.
Keep reading "The Nation" and defending "The Religion of Peace". And don't forget to give Cuba the kudos they deserve too. So far you have found a way to praise every shitty muslim and communist country out there but not have one good thing to say about America.
But good news. We found a dictator you didn't like. Milosevic! Christian dictators suck. Muslim and communist dictators rule! I don't know how you guys look in the mirror.
and nobody ever shot any of them Jew-loving Albanians. They all lined up and shot themselves, except for the last fellow who bulldozed them over and then ran himself down.
You should feel sorry for the American President. He thought the Iraqi oil would pay for all the wars and everything, but he should have gotten somebody (not from Enron Corp) who knew how to do arithmetic first.
But you have to credit him, he knows that if he gets a country into a war, he can always say, "but hey, we're at war! Talkers against me are traitors." Just like Der Fuhrer, god rest his soul.
Doing so is not very honest, true or accurate.
I gotta hand it to you Repubs, though -- you are very crafty at it.